Adult Stem Cell Procedure Curing Lupus, Good News Friday:  Tune in now to hear about just some of the good things that have been happening in our country recently. In this episode, we discuss things such as, a study on Black Lives Matter and police, update on adult stem cell research, a bill that passed for pro- Constitution, and so much more! 

Air Date: 07/21/2017

Guests: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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You have found your way to the intersection of faith and the culture, thanks for joining us here on WallBuilders Live! Where we”€™re talking about today”€™s hottest topics on policy, faith, and other areas of the culture, all of it from a Biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.

We’re here with David Barton, America’s premier historian and the founder of WallBuilders. Also, Tim Barton, president of WallBuilders, national speaker, and pastor. And my name’s Rick Green, I’m a former Texas state representative.

You can find out more about us at our websites, lots of great information there and wonderful resources for your Sunday school class, for your home school education, for yourself to get more educated about the Constitution, and our founding principles, and to share with other people as well.

Then at, that’s our radio site and you can get archives of our program, get a list of all the stations, see a lot of the news that’s happening today, and get the WallBuilders perspective on it. So check all of that out

This is good news Friday! We love that on our Friday programs we get to share some of that good news with you from around the nation and sometimes around the world.

A lot of news stories that you probably haven’t heard much from but David and Tim Barton have been collecting them and going to share them with us here today.

Trying To Take Down A Cross In Neosho, Missouri

Let’s jump into that good news, David, I guess you’re going first, bro.


I’m going to start by going to Missouri. In Missouri we have our, I can in air quotes call them our “€œfriends”€ from Wisconsin, the Freedom From Religion Foundation showed up again.

In Neosho, Missouri, they have a cross that was built there in 1930. That Cross is in Big Spring Park in Neosho, Missouri. The cross was a longtime part of the town’s annual Easter Sunrise services.

For 87 years you haven’t had a single person in town complain about that cross. Then you get a complaint from Wisconsin, nobody in town complains about it, but you”€™ve got a group in Wisconsin that complains about it. Well, they complain about everything.

Anything that has religion they may not see it, but if they know it’s there it’s just too much for them to handle.

So, they came to town with their letter, “€œThis is really bad stuff. You can’t do this.”€ As they say, “€œThis display of this patently religious symbol on public property confers government endorsement of Christianity, a blatant violation of the establishment clause.”€ And on and on it goes. “€œThe cross has an exclusionary effect making non-Christian and non-believing residences in Neosho. Political outsiders.”€ And on it goes.

Not Intimidated By Outside Dissenters

So we saw some of this not long ago in Oklahoma where a central university went in and the secular groups said, “€œOh, this is a chapel, you can’t have a chapel and have a Bible in the chapel. Who cares that the court has already ruled that you can have a chapel in a university because these are adults, these aren’t kids and you can have a Bible in it.”€

Well, when this group showed up instantly the attorney for the university said, “€œOh, we’ve got to get the Bibles out of the chapel and take the cross down off the chapel.”€ They started doing that but we were able to call in some friends in Oklahoma and say, “€œLet’s not do that yet.”€

So the new attorney general of Oklahoma stepped in and said, “€œNo we’re not doing that. The university attorney was wrong. We”€™re doing it this way.”€ So when you stand and fight these guys it tends to have a good effect. But so many times people don’t fight they just capitulate. Except in the Neosho, they picked the wrong town.

The mayor instantly steps up and the mayor says that the cross is not going to go anywhere. We are taking a stand. It’s the best thing to do and it’s the right thing to do.”€ So he took a stand and the city council, what did they do? Well, they vote unanimously to go with him, they’re going to protect the cross.

So good news out of Missouri. You have a town that’s not going to be intimidated by these outside dissenters. People are just going to have to get over the snowflake mentality that just because I hear about something from the other side of the United States, “€œIt’s too much for me to handle.”€ So we’ll see what the final result of this is. But the good news is in Neosho, Missouri the mayor and the City Council are taking a firm stand.


Alright, that’s right out of Missouri. So Tim are you also going to show us something out of the Sho-Mi State?

A Win For Pro-Life


I”€™m going to another state that I think does some “€œshow me”€ stuff but it’s a different kind, it”€™s California. So usually what they’re showing us is inappropriate, liberalism, and negative things.

One of the things coming out of California is, if you guys remember not long ago, Planned Parenthood was exposed with some videos where they were selling baby parts and the abominable things we’ve seen over the last couple of years from Planned Parenthood.

Well, the individuals responsible for those videos were taken to court and they were sued in California. In fact, the California attorney general filed 15 felony charges against David and Saundra who are the two people who were responsible for those videos.


“€œHow dare you expose something illegal? We’re taking you to court.”€


Yeah, “€œHow dare you film a conversation that talked about selling baby body parts?”€ Well, that’s really what they did. So this case was taken by Liberty Counsel, that’s our friends Matt Staver. One of the many legal groups that do such great work. Well, the good news is it”€™s just a week or two ago, not long ago, the San Francisco Superior Court dismissed 14 of the 15 criminal charges.


Wait, a San Francisco court?


San Francisco. It really shows how bogus these charges are. Because they said that they lacked legal sufficiency, for 14 of the 15 they did not have enough evidence to bring some of these charges against them.

So there’s only one charge that they actually can bring against them and that one charge was for invading someone’s privacy with a camera. And that’s the only charge they are able to bring, which even that we’ll see what happens with it.

Probable Cause


I”€™ll tell you what, if they can’t do that then you’re going to see all the news media folks, investigative reporting, and all that has to go away because so much of the corruption that is caught on camera and in undercover investigations. And if they’re going to say that you can’t have an undercover camera without violating somebody’s privacy, then there goes so much of the intelligence work, and the media work, and all of that.

So, there’s a whole lot more at stake here than just this issue, which is this big issue.


It’s significant that even out in San Francisco, California they recognize, “€œWait a second, you can’t bring those charges against them. What you’re saying is illegal is not really illegal. You don’t really have proof.”€

One thing the judge did say is that if they get more evidence they can try to resubmit those charges. But if they’ve had it this long and haven’t come up with any evidence they’re not coming up with evidence.


Legally, that’s what they call “€œprobable cause.”€ You”€™ve got to have enough evidence to have a probable likelihood of conviction. Clearly, they didn’t meet the evidence threshold. Which is, let’s just say, interesting for San Francisco to say that on an abortion issue they didn’t meet the evidence necessary. That”€™s great!


It”€™s great news for these individuals who are trying to promote and help people understand this really negative thing Planned Parenthood is doing, selling baby parts. Obviously, that’s a federal felony but they’re bringing light and attention to some of what’s going on.

They were going to be penalized for trying to show this very immoral thing happening. So great news that now it looks like, at least at this point 14 of the 15 charges have been dropped, only facing one charge, hopefully, they can get that resolved too. We”€™ll hear more news from Matt Staver about it in the future. But at this point, really good news from this case.


I don’t think any of us when we saw that get moved out of the Houston deal and then all of a sudden ends up in San Francisco, none of us thought that this was going to end well. I thought, “€œThat’s the worst venue we could possibly end up with for something like this.”€ Really surprising good news, Tim. We”€™ve got a quick break, we’ll be right back with more good news. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. Many today assert that religion is something private, that has no place in the public square, and that it is incompatible with government.

The Founding Fathers believed exactly the opposite. They held that religion was absolutely necessary in order to maintain our free system of government. For example, John Adams declared, “€œWe have no government armed with power, capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion.”€

And signer of the Declaration, Benjamin Rush, similarly affirmed, “€œWithout religion, there can be no virtue and without virtue, there can be no liberty and liberty is the object and life of all Republican governments.”€ The Founding Fathers understood that limited government required public morality from the people. And that public morality was produced by the Christian religion. For more information about the Founding Fathers views on religion in public life go to

R Rated Movies, Are They Better?


Welcome back! Thank”€™s for staying with us on Wallbuilders Live. We’ve been to Missouri and California so far. David, where is the next piece come from?


We’re going to go to Hollywood for a moment. Well, we”€™re going to go from Hollywood all across the United States. It deals with some movies that have come out this year and what is and is not working.

As you know, we’re big supporters of the free market and we think people should be able to choose the movies they want to go to and put their money there. We’ve had Ted Baer on before and he talks about that when you have a G rated movie it”€™ gets pretty much slammed and yet they make lots of money.

I’m going to tell you about some R-rated comedies. So far there have been five R rated comedies they’ve come out this year. When studios do these, they generally put about 25 million in each of these R rated comedies.

What they do with advertising, promotion, and etc, they need about $70 million to break even on these movies. So, when they come out with these movies they’re looking for that.

So, the five R-rated comedies that have come out this year, you had Rough Night with Scarlett Johansson. You had Fist Fight with Ice Cube, Chips came out, Snatched came out, and Baywatch came out with Dwayne Johnson. So you’ve had some big names with these movies.

Well, you take Rough Night, they got eight million total in 3,150 theaters. That’s a massive theater showing but no money coming in and they need $70 million. And then with Chips, for example, they only get $18 million, they needed $70 million.

A Fist fight got $32 million, they need $70 million. And Baywatch was so bad that they’ve canceled the sequel, they thought they’d really have a hit there.

So, what you’ve got is five R rated raunchy comedies and they all failed at the box office. Then there’s another four that are scheduled to come out this year so we’ll see if this happens. But I think people are making known what they like in the way of values and what they like and things are willing to pay for. And right now, we’ll see if Hollywood gets the message, but raunchy R-rated comedies is not where the people are going.


That’s really surprising considering where the culture has been going so it’s good news. Again, may not expect good news coming out of San Francisco, that”€™s why I love these Good News Fridays guys. Tim, you’ve got a short one we can get in before the break?

Pro-Life Legislation From Kansas


I do, it”€™s  from Kansas. Actually, I have a couple of articles dealing with it. But Governor Brownback from Kansas has signed some pro-life legislation which actually requires abortion clinics to provide data based on the “€œmedical professionals”€ that they have working in the abortion facilities.

There’s so much turnover of the individuals that work in these abortion facilities. The thought is that so many of these women don’t have an abortion are going to see a doctor when actually a lot of the people doing abortions are not necessarily the doctors that we think of when we go visit a doctor at an emergency room or at a hospital.

And because sometimes these abortion facilities not abiding by these clinics this, it”€™s called SB83 that was passed both the House and the Senate, it was signed by the governor, and it requires that every abortion facility provide an easily readable typeface minimum professional information about each abortion that is listed on a clinics online informed consent documents.

So, if you have to get online consent you know exactly what’s going on, who, and what the procedures are and what they’re going to do. So, really giving more information to women that go have abortions.

As you can imagine the abortion is definitely opposed because, “€œWait a second, we don’t want them to have more information. Just come in and get this procedure done.”€ So it is a step in the right direction, helping make sure women are informed in the midst of what’s going on. And hopefully help them make better decisions knowing that this procedure, what it could cause, side effects, impact, consequences, and etc. So this is good news coming from Kansas.


Alright, Kansas, Missouri, and California. Lots of good news from across the country today. We’ll be right back with more, stay with us on WallBuilders Live!

Constitution Alive

Have you ever wanted to learn more about the United States Constitution but just felt like, man, the classes are boring or it’s just that old language from 200 years ago or I don’t know where to start? People want to know. But it gets frustrating because you don’t know where to look for truth about the Constitution either.

Well, we’ve got a special program for you available now called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. It’s actually a teaching done on the Constitution at Independence Hall in the very room where the Constitution was framed. We take you both to Philadelphia, the Cradle of Liberty and Independence Hall and to the WallBuilders”€™ library where David Barton brings the history to life to teach the original intent of our Founding Fathers.

We call it the QuickStart guide to the Constitution because in just a few hours through these videos you will learn the Citizen’s Guide to America’s Constitution.  You’ll learn what you need to do to help save our Constitutional Republic. It’s fun! It’s entertaining! And it’s going to inspire you to do your part to preserve freedom for future generations. It’s called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. You can find out more information on our website now at

Good News From Unlikely Places


Welcome back, thanks for staying with us here on WallBuilders Live, Good News Friday, today. You can get more of these good news programs at our website

David, where are we headed next?


We’re going to head to Harvard. I”€™m going to let that sink in.


Good news or bad news? I mean, 200 years ago, you must have been reading something in the library? You found something on Harvard in the library that was good news from 200 years ago?


I knew that would get you. That”€™s why I gave a pause there, that pregnant pause to kind of let you comment. Yes, we’re going to Harvard. Yes we’ve been to Hollywood, yes we’ve been to San Francisco, now we’re going to Harvard for good news.


It’s a weird program today.


It is.

A Study On Black Lives Matter And Police


It deals with Black Lives Matter. We’ve seen Black Lives Matter protest what police are doing across the country, the injustice, and how blacks have been targeted. So you’ve got the poster child, like Michael Brown, and Freddie Gray, and so many others that are put out there as a stereotypical “€œwhat the cops are doing.”€

But there is a black professor at Harvard. He’s an economics professor, Roland Fryer. He said he really felt anger at the media’s portrayal of racial injustice. So it drove him to do the study of just how unjust this is and where the cops are, and what they do with targeting blacks, and etc.

So his study that he did was to show the role that race played in the use of lethal force by police. So what he did was, he checked 1,000 police shootings from 10 large police departments in California, Florida, and Texas.  You know. “€œThose southern redneck racist states that hate blacks and cops shoot them, it”€™s the Wild West out there.”€

The results weren”€™t at all what he thought he was going to find. He only looked to those instances in which cops fired their guns, not drew their guns, fired their guns. And what he concluded in the study was that police officers who had not been attacked were more likely to shoot white suspects than black suspects.

He also found that an equal number of blacks and whites were carrying weapons when the police shot them. Which, of course, doesn’t help the claim that the cops are shooting unarmed blacks more frequently.

So, this is a Harvard professor that was surprised. As he pointed out, “€œThis is the most surprising result of my career”€  That’s what the stats show. Looking at this to see and as it turns out.

What Washington Post Has To Say About Black Shootings

The Washington Post also did a similar type of study. They studied shooting deaths by law enforcement officials and they found that four hundred and ninety-four white suspects were killed which was almost double the number of black suspects killed.

So I guess- this is an old story, I think we’ve already all heard this in the news, ABC, and NBC, and CNN, all cover this, right? I don’t think I’ve heard that.

So here are studies done by folks we wouldn’t expect. Washington Post, and Harvard professors and these are the results.


I’ll also point out though, it is great that you see a Harvard professor who even though, upfront, he tells you he’s got a bias, “€œI’m looking to prove what I’ve seen on the media.”€ And even though what he finds doesn’t fit what he thought, or even hoped maybe, he”€™d find so we could explain, “€œthis is why there’s a bias”€ he still has the integrity. “€œHey, actually, it’s not what I thought. Here’s what it shows. It shows police officers are not just targeting and murdering black Americans. It’s different than I thought.”€ So to me, it’s good news that you have some integrity from some academic who we don’t always see integrity from academics when it comes to research.


Well, Tim, we’re right in the middle of a two-week leadership training program for college kids. We have 50 or so college kids in from 18 to 25 years old. And the thing we trained them all week long as you followed the truth, you acknowledged the truth, you go where truth is. And when you find truth you acknowledge it.

If that means you change, that’s great, if that means the culture has to change, but you stay with truth.  And that’s exactly what we see from the Harvard professor, which really really is good news that this Harvard professor is being driven by truth and by results rather than by agenda.

And, yeah, Tim, you’re exactly right. That doubles the good news of this. Not only that the study found what it did, cops aren’t the demons they are all made out to be. Oh yeah, there are some bad cops out there, just like there are bad people in any field anywhere.

But to make cops the bad guys in this, the study doesn’t show that. Not the Washington Post or Harvard, which is good news. But you’re right, the fact that you have a Harvard professor who acknowledges truth and follows truth to where it leads. That’s really good news.

Upholding The Constitution 


Alright, we”€™ve got time for a quick one, Tim, where are we headed?


This one is actually in Texas, guys. It”€™s something Governor Abbott just recently signed into law. It was American law and American courts. It actually holds that the Texas Supreme Court is not going to recognize foreign territories or other nations laws when it comes to making decisions in the state of Texas.

So the great news is that if you are in Texas that you get to abide by the Constitution. We don’t have to worry about how Europe does it, or how the middle east does it, or Shari’ah does it. So, this is great news that we can at least acknowledge we’re going to follow American law and American course.


Do you know how many states it is now? I know a number of states to pass that. Does it include how many states?


It did not say on that article how many states.


But it’s a growing movement and that’s good news.


One day we’ll get the 57.


Growing movement and it’s a big deal. It took a lot of work to get it done in Texas. It took several sessions to even get it done here. And of course, you have some large Muslim communities up in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that had been really working to implement Sharia law in their community. So this is a big victory.


It’s a very big victory and it’s something that certainly was hard fought for but it’s something that we ought to see in every state. There’s no reason that if you live in America you should be having Court decisions based on laws from nations that are not where you were having this court and not where you live. So it’s common sense.

Nonetheless, it is great news to see it taking place here in Texas.


Folks at home that are listening, wherever you are in the country, you can look it up and see if it’s been passed in your state and if not encourage your legislature to make sure it gets done. Quick break, we’ll be back with more good news here on WallBuilders live!

Biographical Sketches

Hi, friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we’re trying to find good content for our kids to read.

If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as well.

I wanted to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “€œThe Courageous Leaders Collection“€ and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.

There’s a second collection called, “€œHeroes of History“€ in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.

This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at

Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment in American history. America is a special and unique nation. The average length for a constitution in other countries is only 17 years. But we’ve had ours for over two centuries. Our 4 percent of the world’s population produces 24 percent of the world’s gross domestic product and every year we produce more inventions and technology than the other 96 percent of the world combined.

In 1831 Alexis de Tocqueville of France came to America, traveled the country, and in his famous book, “€œDemocracy in America”€, reported,  “€œThe position of the Americans is therefore quite exceptional. It may be believed that no Democratic people will ever be placed in a similar one.”€

This is the origin of the phrase “€œAmerican exceptionalism”€ and affirms that America is unique because of the distinctive ideas on which we’ve been based. Including in inalienable rights, individuals, and limited government, and the importance of religion, and morality. For more information about American exceptionalism go to

A Religious Liberty Win With Jeff Session


Thanks for staying with us on Wallbuilders Live! We’re back with David and Tim Barton getting some good news from them. David, what’s our next good news?


I’m going to Washington, D.C. I’m going to have something that is a big change as a result of the new presidential administration. The attorney general Jeff Sessions delivered a speech and it dealt with religious liberty.

I just want to read to you a few lines out of it and just listen to the tone of this and compare this to Loretta Lynch, and compare it to Eric Holder, and the previous attorney generals.

Here’s what Jeff Sessions said, “€œUnder this administration, religious Americans will be treated neither as an afterthought nor as a problem to be managed.” I mean, that’s a big statement all by itself.

He continues, “€œReligious Liberty and respect for religion have strengthened this country from the beginning. In fact, it was largely in order to enjoy and protect these religious rights that this country was settled and founded in the first place.”

“Our founders wisely recognized that religion is not an accident of history or a passing circumstance. It is at the core of human experience.”  So he is saying, “€œLook, this is a core thing. We’re not going to treat this like a little side group or an afterthought. This is why America was founded. We’re not going to have hostility toward religion in this administration.”€  That is a great tone change, especially from the chief law enforcement officer of the United States of America.


That’s good.  Alright, Tim, we”€™ve got time for one more thing, bro.

Adult Stem Cell Research


This one is something that came from Washington, D.C. There’s a research institute that has an arm in Washington, D.C. And there was a video- the website is, StemCellResearchFacts.Org. is the website. And on this website, there are multiple videos but they track the progress of stem cell research. Specifically, they’ll compare adult stem cell research to embryonic stem cell research.

Adult stem cell is something that is taken either from the umbilical cord all the way up, it can be taken from an individual like us right now.


They can take skin cells off back your hand, they can swab the inside of your mouth, they can take adult stem cells from all sorts of places on adult body.


So adult stem cells, really the stem cells recognize that once you are born from that day forward it’s adult stem cell. And embryonic cells are taken from a fetus, aka an unborn child.


That you have to kill.


Before the child is born, and ultimately from a dead baby. So they go through some of these details, the difference of success between the adult stem cell versus the embryonic stem cell.

One of the things they have is is a series of videos. And in these videos, there is a story of Jackie Stollfus who is a lupus survivor who for 21 years had systemic lupus which is an autoimmune disease and there’s no cure for it. So they give her medication do all that they can possibly figure out to do.

Curing Lupus With Adult Stem Cell Procedure

Well, one of the things they did is they said, “€œHey, let’s try adult stem cell.”€ So what they did is they go into her own bone marrow and they took some of her own bone marrow, got stem cells from that, they start treating her with these adult stem cells. And seven years later she’s healthy, active, and has been able to start a family.

She says, “€œAdult stem cells saved my life. Gave me a chance to have a life. Gave me a chance to be a mom.”€ It’s yet another example where adult stem cell, these incredible things are happening where miraculous cures are taking place through adult stem cells. So really cool things coming from science! But coming yet, again, in the area of adult stem cell which we’ve talked about that’s really where all the successes come from.


Maybe at some point, adult stem cells will actually catch up and have as many successes as embryonic stem cells have had.


Hmm, wait, let’s see.


I think you’re saying that tongue in cheek.


Yeah. How many embryonic stem cell cures are there right now? Zero. How many adult stem cell cures are there? More than 100. Now we’ve got another on with lupus, so 101. Nothing on embryonic stem cell side, everything in adult stem cell.


That’s what you call a landslide right there. Good news from across the board guys, such a broad range of topics all over the country, all kinds of different areas in the culture with victories.Thanks for sharing so much good news with us today. We get more at our website today folks at WallBuilders Live. Thanks for listening to WallBuilders Live.