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American History Rewritten, Veterans Day – Pro-Family Legislators Conference Pt 2: Â InÂ this episode, David Barton shares the rarely told history of George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower and all the miracles they experienced in their lives to be able to become the men we hear about today.
Air Date:Â 03/24/2017
Guests: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton
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Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture, WallBuilders Live! You can find out more at our Web sites WallBuilders.com and WallBuildersLive.com. Short intro today because we’re going to jump right into a great presentation. Â We barely have time to get it all in.
I’m Rick Green, a former Texas state representative. Our founder and president, David Barton America’s premiere historian, is not with us today because we’re actually going to go to the conference that he puts on for legislators across the country called the Pro-Family Legislators Conference. So let’s pick up where we left off yesterday for the conclusion of David Barton speaking at the Pro-Family Legislators Conference.
It collapsed on him and his buddy and they fell into a freezing river. They couldn’t get to the shore so they stayed on an island the entire night shaking having been in that frozen water dodging ice floes.
Finally, the river froze enough they could walk across the river and get out. It’s just an unbelievable story. Â This 23-year-old kid Washington, and he comes back and he’s talked to the French commander and has the answer.
So this is published, this is the first major publication of George Washington. He is a major at this point, with the Virginia militia. And this is 1754 that this happens. And so it’s a governor’s letter and a translation of a French officer’s answer.
Because what Washington did is he took a letter from Governor Dinwiddie, gave it to the French, said, “This is a demand letter. Â You need to leave our territory.”Â
And so they get the answer back and the answer was, “No, we’re not going. We’re staying right here.”
So at that point in time, Governor Dinwiddie says, “Ok, I’m sending in troops up there.” And he puts Washington in charge of the troops. He is now 23-year-old Colonel. Washington, by the way, from that report what happened, that’s the first notoriety he has nationally, got him a lot of notoriety even in Europe and in London.Â
They said, “Who is this kid George Washington? Look what he just did.”
The Start Of George Washington”s Career
So Washington leads the troops and they go from Virginia up across northern Maryland. Because the French have built a fort right there on the fork of three rivers, Monongahela- And by the way, the fork of three rivers is what we call “Pittsburgh” today.
But the French Fort was Fort ***. So he’s taken his troops up there to throw the French out and say, “This is our territory, leave.”
Now, he’s only got a couple hundred guys. He finds that *** has seven hundred guys coming at him and they’re going to attack him. And Washington is not ready for that attack. Â He doesn’t have near enough soldiers.
So with that French force coming at them, Washington retreats back to this area. Â Great Meadows is what it”s called located in western Maryland. He builds a fort named Fort Necessity because it was a necessity to defend themselves. Â They’re a small group with a much bigger group.
So, he builds this Fort. Â They have this little magazine on the inside to protect their supplies, and his few hundred guys are right there. But the problem with the Fort is if you notice it, you see all the hills around behind it. It’s a problem to build in a low spot. Well, the 23-year-old guy didn’t know that yet, but the French and Indians did. So they set in the trees over him just fire down in that Fort for hours and hours.
The Virginian guys couldn’t even fire back, stick their head above and they get their head popped. And so it turned out that after hours of firing they’d killed no Americans. But there’s just no hope of doing anything except being pinned right there.
So Washington surrenders. Â It”s the 4th of July of 1754, he surrenders. Â They marched out of the fort. Â The French destroy the fort after Washington is gone. Washington still, he comes up another notch in the eyes of everyone for what’s happened. Because with a very small force he tried to take on a much bigger force and he managed not to lose any of his troops. And by the way, that was the only surrender that George Washington ever had in his entire career was that of the French and Indian War on the Fourth of July, 1754.
How George Washington Went Back To War After His Sabbatical
So then Dinwiddie says, “I’ve got to rethink what we’re doing here. I’m going to totally reorganize the military.” So it took the military away from George Washington and put it under his own control.
Washington said, “I’m not needed in the military.” So he goes back to Mount Vernon and that’s where he stays. Â He’s happy to be a farmer again. Â He’s back into farm life. But over in England, you have George II who’s king.Â
And he says, “Braddock, go take a bunch of the British forces, the most hardened British troops. Go to America and kick the French out. This is not going to happen anymore.”
So, General Braddock brings his troops to America and Braddock’s heard of this young George Washington guy. So he sends for Washington and wants to meet Washington because he’s got all the troops here.
So Washington goes to meet with him. On the way, Washington finds that Braddock wants him to come participate in this battle to throw the French out. So he stops by to talk to his mother, Mary.Â
She has a special prayer over him. This is what Mary prayed for him at that time, “That God may protect you through all the dangers and hardships of war and return you in safety will be my constant prayer. With His blessing, you can be a useful man in war as in peace and without it, you can expect nothing.”
So it was a time of prayer and blessing. So he goes on and he meets then with Braddock and they start off. Now Washington is in charge of the Virginia buckskins and that’s about a hundred troops.
There’s actually about 2,300 total troops in Braddock’s force. A hundred of them commanded by Washington. Â He’s in charge of the Virginia Buckskins. So Braddock has got this other 2,300 that he’s got and he divides them intoÂ groups. Part of them are the axemen. Â They have to cut the road, what they call “The National Road” that was going to Pittsburgh.
General Braddock Â Got Shot
So they string out and they start marching. The column was actually four miles long, is how long this column of 2,300 soldiers was. They”ve got four miles marching through the wilderness and as they’re going. This is the actual battle map from July the 8, 1755.
They’ve now crossed. Â They’re about seven miles outside of Pittsburgh, or Fort *** at this point. The red is all the British and there’s about 2,300 of them and there’s about at that point we think there’s probably four to five hundred French and Indians.
The problem is the French and Indians are used to fighting woodland warfare. The British are used to fighting open field warfare which is what you did in Europe. So when they’re seven miles from the Fort, the French and Indian open fire on all the British. Now, that should not have been a problem except the British thought, “That’s a cowardly way to fight. We’ll stay out here in the open and shoot at you.”
So, what happened was the British are getting fired at. And what they do is they line up in columns. You could be blind and just point down there and shoot a British because they’re all lined up.
Washington and his guys took to the woods, took to the trees, and got behind rocks, and logs and fired back. And so at the end of two hours of standing there and getting pounded 714 British had been shot. Only 30 the French had been shot and those 30 had been shot by Washington’s guys.
General Braddock eventually gets shot, and at that point in time George Washington takes over the force. He organizes them, gets them out of there, “Don’t stand there in the bottom and get shot at, that”s stupid.”
It”s A Miracle That George Washington Lived
And so they retreat and as they retreat back they put Braddock on one of the luggage carts they carry him back, badly wounded. On the way back to western Maryland he dies and as they bury him in what’s called, “The National Road” they bury him there.Â
George Washington actually is a chaplain who performs a service over him. He had been asking Governor Dinwiddie for chaplains, asked Virginia governor seven times for chaplains and they wouldn’t give it.
So he performs the duties of the chaplain. And then Washington leads them back. When he gets back. It’s interesting, there were 86 British and American officers in battle. George Washington was the only one not shot down off his horse.
The French and Indians had been told, “Target the officers and kill them, because of you that you take their leadership away. We can get the rest at one point in time.” So he was the only one not shot down off his horse in that battle.
When he got back to western Maryland they stopped at what’s called, “Fort Cumberland” and he writes his family. His family has heard that everybody in that expedition got wiped out. Not everybody did, a whole lot of them did.
He writes back and he says, “All the rumors you’ve heard about my death are wrong. I am alive. I now exist and appear in the land of the living by the miraculous care of Providence that protected me beyond all human probability or expectation. I had four bullet holes in my coat and two horses shot under me yet, escaped unhurt.”
He talked about how he combed his hair and he had bullet fragments in it. But you can imagine after the battle is over and you take the jacket off and you”ve got four bullet holes through it. I’d be checking for leaks somewhere, you know? That would make me nervous because they were they were targeting the officers. And again, he’s the only one out of the 86 and that he did not get shot down.
God Has Something Special For This Kid
Now, what happens is this story of Washington being miraculously protected goes across the colonists. Samuel Dave is considered the greatest pulpit preacher in American history. One of the preachers of the great awakening actually preached a sermon, and it was this sermon of 1755. This is a deployment sermon, they’re sending out a bunch more Virginia troops.
Captain Overton’s independent company volunteers, they’re all going after the French because the war has started. And as he’s talking to these soldiers about being courageous, standing up and fighting, remembering what it is that God has ordained you to be soldiers for, he has this little footnote at the bottom.
This is the actual sermon, we have this at the library. He says, “By the way, I’ve been talking to you about courage and about how important it is that you be on God’s side. As a remarkable instance of this, I may point out to the public that heroic young Colonel Washington, whom I cannot but hope Providence has hitherto preserved *** a manner for some important service to this country.”
Now, we don’t know this, Washington is a 23-year-old kid, he’s a youthful guy, but when God intervenes like that to save somebody’s life we think that means he’s going to perform some signals, some important service for our country. We just gotta hope the God has raised him up for something special for us because he sure preserved him.Â
So this is even a subject of sermons. “Man, the way Washington was saved, that miraculous intervention that must mean God’s got something special for this kid, whoever he is.”
Washington, The Man Who Can Not Be Killed
Well, we know who he is and what happens. Internationally, 15 years later we’re now to 1770, time of peace. Â War is long over, been over for years. Washington decides he’s going back to the same area. So he takes a journey back to that area and as he gets into that area some old Indian chiefs send word, “We want to meet with you.”
So the Indian Chiefs went to meet with Washington and they told him and said, “Fifteen years ago you and I were in these woods together. You didn’t know me but I was in charge of the Indians you were fighting that day. I told my braves tp single you out and fire at you.”
This is what the Chiefs told him. One of the chiefs said, “I called them my young men and said, “Quick let your aim be certain and he dies.” Our rifles were leveled, rifles which but for you, knew not how to miss. I personally fired at you thirteen times. I never missed and I couldn’t get you to go down.”
He continued, “Power mightier far than we, shielded you. I’m come to pay homage to the man is the particular favor of Heaven who can never die in battle.” He was saying that you’ve got my attention. God did something you and I want to meet you because we did our best to take you down. I see bullets hitting your jacket and you all fall over kind of stuff.
The other chief said, “Washington was never born to be killed by a bullet. I had seventeen fair fires in him with my rifle and after all I could not bring him to the ground.” Remember, seventeen fires, single shot. “This is deliberate, I’ve been focused on you for a long time. I keep reloading and shooting you, and reloading and shooting you.”
And the other chief of 13 fired, it’s just it’s amazing stuff. So you look at Washington, he was never born to be killed by a bullet, who can never die in battle. When he gets in the American Revolution similar things happen, battle Brandywine and other instances.
We used to study this in school. This is part of what we studied about military, George Washington. But it’s real clear that Washington is one of those who his hands were trained for war and his fingers for battle. He”s just an unbelievable military guy, as a gift of God. And it”s a good thing he was because now we’re a nation as a result.
The Story Of Eisenhower You Don”t Hear Often
One other story I’ll share with you deals with Eisenhower. Â We know him from World War II, but I’m going to introduce you to him when he’s 13 years old. He’s a young boy at this point, born in Denison Texas, grew up in Kansas.
What happened was, as Dwight was coming home one day to his Kansas farm he fell down skinned his knee. We all tell our kids, “Get up, shake it off. You’re fine.” Except back then it’s not necessarily the case because even though he washed it and cleaned it you don’t have any antiseptics, antibiotics, etc.
So it turned out a couple of days later that scrape got infected and it was starting to swell. And it was discoloration moving up his leg and into his chest. Sunday morning he came into his folks and said, “This really hurts.”Â
And they looked at it, Â “It”s bad,” Â they said. Â “Ok, you stay home from church today. We’ll see you when we get back tonight.” Because they went to church all day long.
They got back that night, looked at it, and they had to cut his pants off and cut his boot off to be able to see it. And it was streaked up and his body was in bad shape. The huge discoloration. So they called the family doctor, horse, and buggy. Â He comes over looks at it.
He got Dwight up in the room. He’s got a high fever. Â He’s delirious, going in and out of delirium. And Doc looks at it and goes outside and tells his parents. Â He says, and Dwight happens to be awake at the time and hears it and he says, “I think I can save his life if I take his leg off. If I do that, I think I can get enough of the infection that his body can fight off the rest but I’ve got to take his leg off.” And they said, “Save his life.”
So he goes horse and buggy, goes to get the equipment. But Dwight heard that and no 13-year-old, nobody wants to lose a leg, but no 13-year-old kid wants to lose the leg. And so Dwight has high athletic hopes that he wants to do.
So he calls his older brother Edgar in, he says, “Edgar, no matter what happens to me you promise me that you will not let him take my leg off?”Â
And Edgar says, “I promise.”Â
So the Doctor comes back, goes up to take the leg off, and Edgar is blocking the door. “Sorry Doc, can’t go in.”Â
“Edgar, your brother is in serious trouble. I need to go in. Â I need to treat him. Â Oherwise, he is going to die.
Pastors Only Briefing Trip
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“Sorry,Â Doc, gave my word. Â Can”t go in.”Â
Edgar, you’re not understanding the situation here. If I don’t take your brother’s leg off he will die.”Â
“Sorry,Â Doc, gave my word.”Â
“Edgar, if he died you will be his murderer. Â You will be the one that caused-“Â
“Sorry, Doc, gave my word.”
And so Dr. Conklin just explodes, and he goes outside and as he’s going out he yells, “The only thing that will save this boy’s life is a miracle!” Slams the door. Â He”s gone.Â
Parents go, “Miracle, yeah.” Because their parents had been frontier preachers out with the wild guys and the rendezvous they had with the frontier guys.
So the family started praying. Â They get around the bed and they all start praying. And shortly within a couple days according to family testimony, there was a real change. Â The discoloration’s going out, the fever’s going down.So they accredited prayer with having saved Dwight’s life.
The interesting thing, if Dwight had lost a leg, does he serve in the military? No way, shape, fashion, or form. But as it is, he ends up becoming commander in chief of the entire European theater. Matter of fact, even Churchill pushed for Eisenhower to be commander even over his own British generals because Eisenhower thought so outside the box. He was so totally different in his thinking from the other generals.
D-Day, who saw that coming? And all the things we did to mislead the Germans to think that we were attacking elsewhere so they wouldn’t have all the troops-I mean everything, brilliant. God needed him for that point in time so God saves his legs, saves his life back in that early day.
What Makes America Different Is God
So he’s one of these guys again, that Psalm 144, God trained his hands for war, fingers for battle. Very gifted, and it’s good for the rest of us. Now, because of what he was as a warrior he ends up becoming president United States.
As president of the United States when he is sworn in, he writes in his own writing, he said that he went to communion that morning and during that was thinking, “America is too secular. What can I do to help America not be so secular? Â I’m not a preacher. Â I don’t do sermons. What can I do?”
So what he did, he actually at his inauguration prayed his own inaugural prayer, and nobody saw it coming. The Washington Post, really interesting. Everybody had the inauguration schedule, and they’ve gone through.
He was sworn in with his West Point Bible his mama gave him when he went to West Point. After that, he says, “Everybody bow your head, I”m going to pray.”Â
And they said the reporters were going, “It’s not in the schedule.” But we have the footage of it, it’s great. You go on YouTube and see it. Â Everybody bowed her head. Â It was dead silence. I mean all over the National Mall, dead silence because he is going to pray.Â
This is the actual prayer he prayed. Â You see that tomorrow as well. Â This is the handwritten prayer that he prayed at his own inauguration.
So, he’s now in office, and he says, “I know several things I can do to help us not be so secular.” So in 1953, he started the National Prayer Breakfast, still goes to this day, first Thursday of every February. About 115 nations across the world come in. Â You heard Bob McEwen talk about how they started these prayer breakfasts across the Baltic nations.
Eisenhower started that National Prayer Breakfast. Â Eisenhower is also the guy that was in church in February of 1954 listening to this guy preach. Pastor Daiquiri was preaching and was saying, “My kids came home from school today and I said, “What did you guys do?” And they told me-“
Because he’s from Scotland, so this is a new experience for him in America. He said, “My kids told me they said the Pledge of Allegiance.” And he said, “What is that?” And they said the pledge to him.
He said, “You know, I thought about that, and the pledge that they gave. A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.”Â
He said, “I went through it, and it could have easily been said by any other nation. The people in Russia would say that they are one they are one nation indivisible, Â that they”re a republic, they want liberty and justice. Every nation, but what makes America different is God.”
And so he preached this sermon here. This is his actual sermon you see his text Galatians 3:28. And he says, “Why don’t we put under God in our Pledge of Allegiance? Why don’t we make ourselves different from every other nation?”
Eisenhower was sitting on the front row of that church that morning, New York Presbyterian Church. Eisenhower goes back Â to a bunch of senators says, “Guys, I”ve got an idea.” And so that’s how we get “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance.
It came from words from the sermon that he heard preached. And he says, “That’s a great idea.” Because he had been saying the difference between communism and America is God.
We would be communist if it weren’t for God. God is what keeps us a republic. So that was his emphasis. That”s also when you see the chapel added, the prayer chapel at the U.S. Capitol, George Washington kneeling in prayer Psalm 16:1. Â It”s a great place to be, still an active place of worship and prayer.
He also signed the bill making “In God we trust” go on the currency not just on the coins. He’s also the one who signed the bill that made “in God to trust” our national motto.Â
So I mean he goes through and does all this stuff. But he’s there because of the fact that he’s a great soldier. Had he not been a great soldier he would not have been elected to office. So there’s just a lot of military history.
So, closing this thing out in the minutes we”ve got left. Let me just take you on a quick reminder of a little bit of military history. That’s why we honor veterans. Â While we should honor veterans, we ought to be teaching everyone of our kids about every one of these wars, what’s involved, and the heroes in those wars.
Let me just take you to the American Revolution. Show you some of the cost that was paid. In the American Revolution, we went from 1775 to 1783. Over that period of time, we had 18,000 prisoners.
Remember, the entire population back then it’s only 3 million. That”s half the size of Houston. So half the size of Houston, we got 18,000 prisoners of war. Â We’ve got 6,188 wounded, and we”ve got 25,000 killed. And that would be a massive plague if something like that happened in Houston or Chicago. That’s what it cost in the American Revolution.
Barbary Powers War, 32 years we fought Muslim terrorists, it was particularly fought from 1784. To 1816, that”s 32 years. Lost a lot of Americans, that’s a war we don’t have stats on. It was a very vicious war. It was hand-to-hand combat close quarter combat the urban kind of warfare. They had to do go from building to building over there. It was very treacherous warfare, lost a lot of guys, don’t know how many.
War of 1812 comes along, that goes for three years. Burn the capital, burn the White House, in that period of time about thirty-three hundred Americans are made prisoners of war.
You have about forty-five hundred wounded and you have about twenty-three hundred that were killed in the War of 1812. The War of 1812 is called the “Second American Revolution” because when the British ended the American Revolution they made certain promises they didn’t keep them.
We fought this war to make sure they keep the promises they promised the first time because they’re still doing the same bad stuff to us. Now, you know 20 years later, that led to the Second American Revolution.
Â Zachary Taylor
The Mexican War went from 1846-1848. Zachary Taylor became president as a result of being a great military leader. He’s the first president of the United States to belong to no political party. He wasn’t partisan because he is a military guy. It’s never been part of a political party. He gets elected because of that leadership. There were 840 that were made prisoners of war. He had 41,000 wounded and you had about 13,000 killed in the Mexican War.
Remembering The Wars Our Veterans Have Fought
Then you have the Civil War that comes along which goes for that four-year period of time. POW”s, now, I teach a military ethics class at military bases and there are two ways you fight battles.
You fight battles with people who have similar values and there’s a different way you fight battles with people who have dissimilar values. People who have similar values is the American Revolution, the war of 1812.
People with dissimilar values is what you have in the Barbary Powers Wars, Muslim terrorists, and this Civil War. “Wait a minute, it”s Americans fighting.” Yeah, but the fighting mentality in the south was that.
What they did at Fort Pillow, “Oh, you’re black? We”ll skin you alive and pen you to the barn. Â We’re going to burn you alive.” What they did to black soldiers at Fort Pillow, that’s what Hitler did in the camps.
See, when we fought the Civil War it was two separate moral value systems. That’s a good indication how separate the values were. That’s not the way the union treated soldiers. That’s the way the Confederate treated Union soldiers. So, 431,000, 354,000wounded, and you have 620,000 killed in that particular war.
The Spanish-American War, you have a one year war. That’s Roosevelt Rough Riders, the charge up San Juan Hill. You had sixteen hundred and seventeen hundred wounded about 24,000 that were killed in that war.
World War I comes along, that period goes- now, we didn’t fight all those years, we fought from 16 through 18. But in that period time, we had 41,000 POWs. Â We had 204,000 wounded, and we had 116 thousand killed in World War 1, trying to help rid the world of the stuff that was going on at that time. A lot of that even dealt with the Ottoman Empire and Muslims were involved in World War I as well.
World War II comes along, you know the cause of that. You know Pearl Harbor, 130,000 Americans are prisoners of war. We had 671,000 that were wounded, and we had 405,000 that died as a result of that war. Again, that’s why you drop atomic bombs so that it’s not 1 million four hundred and five thousand.
The Korean War is called, “The Forgotten War.” It’s a tough war, cold, frigid, freezing. In that particular war, we had aboutÂ 8,200 that were prisoners of war. Â We had about 130,000 there were wounded. Â We had about 36,000 that were killed in that war. The cemeteries even in Korea massive cemeteries, lots of Americans loss of life.
Vietnam war goes for 11 years. Vietnam War you have 766 POWs. That’s one of the lowest POW counts because they killed all the prisoners. It was fighting a war with people of different values. They didn’t believe in life. They had no respect for life. So when they get a prisoner they just kill them.
So there were very few prisoners. Sam Johnson Congressman from Texas is one of the survival, John McCain is a surviving POW. 304,000 wounded,.You have 58,000 killed, and about 2,000 still missing in action.
The Persian Gulf War, we have 23 POWs, 467 wounded, and we have about 382 that are killed. Â
Then we get to the war on terror, where we are right now. War on Terror, we know started on 9/11. What happened, the plane hit there at the Pentagon. So we’ve been in that war now for 15 years, 50,000 wounded, and little over 7,000 killed.
Teach The Next Generation
We have a long military history. The reason we get to do the stuff we do is because guys like that are willing to do the stuff that they do. But our kids aren’t going to know that. They will have no clue. They’ll think a Republican government is a happy accident. It’s not.
It goes back to stuff like that. So that’s a little Veterans Day tribute to those guys. Just good for us remember what we’ve come through. The Bible says to render honor to those who honor is due. Â That”s what we do on Veterans Day. Â It had been our ***day.
Started out in World War 1, celebrating the end of the war, the end of all those losses of lives. But then we changed it, in the 50″s I think it was, to Veterans Day. Â So that’s what we do is honor veterans on that period time.
I really do encourage you to do what you can to make sure that we preserve military history because it is going out of schools faster than you can imagine. And what that means for 20 years from now you can imagine and that’s what we need to do something with it.
Well, that was David Barton, the conclusion of his presentation there at the Pro-Family Legislators Conference. Be sure and share that with your legislator friends so that they can go to the conference next year. Great opportunity to sharpen each other’s countenance and share ideas.
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