Good News In The Midst Of Chaos-Churches Get Creative To Continue Services And More- Pro–Life leaders thank President Trump, Mississippi Governor conducts Facebook Bible study and prayer service, hundreds attend Ohio church’s drive-in worship service. Tune in to hear more!

Air Date: 04/03/2020

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Rick:

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Alright, David, Tim, I know of all the Good News Fridays we’ve had over the years, this may be the one people are looking the most forward to, because they need some good news, they’ve been stuck in their house and they’re bored out of their mind, maybe and/or they’re dealing with this on the front lines and just could use some encouragement. So, thank you guys for Good News Friday always, but I know our listeners are looking forward to your stories today.

David:

Well, I’m going to start with good news. That’s going to be kind of a second personal privilege if I can use a little a legislative language there. I want to go back for just a little bit and talk about Tom Coburn. Tom Coburn passed away this past weekend and he was a good friend. He’s a friend to every Christian, every constitutionalist, every American patriot. Tom Coburn was in the house, he was in the Senate, was just a terrific guy. And we talked last week about a lot of the panic that’s coming from the corona thing, is really in many ways because we become so secular in so many areas. It’s not that the numbers are staggering. Oh my gosh! We’ve had so many pandemics in America with much higher numbers than what we’re looking at now, but we’ve become secular. And as such, looking at Hebrews 2:15 in the Bible, talks about that when you don’t have relationship with Christ, is a great fear of death and that relationship of Christ takes that fear of death away.

And Tom was one of those guys that he’s gone through prostrate cancer treatments for like a couple decades, I guess. And he is the guy who, his passing is really his graduation. And so, all the things he did in America, what he did to help, really, he almost single handedly cut a lot of the pork barrel items that used to be now. There’s still a lot of trash that gets thrown into spending, as we saw in this $2 trillion stimulus, that’s what we call it. But he really took away the fact that most Senators and Reps used to have several million dollar slush fund that they gave to their own personal projects. He got rid of that. What he did to get Article 5 going and get States kind of standing up and saying, hey, there is a separation of powers between State and Federal government. We’re not all federal entities and the States are separate. I mean, that was big. What he did to prolife stuff, he was an OBGYN doctor. And as OBGYN doctor, he really stood up and started calling out late term abortions and really what they were and life of the mother and how that was defined. I mean, he did so much to shape the culture. And so, with Tom being graduated to heaven last week, just wanted to give a head nod to him, all he did. What a great guy, great friend, great Christian brother. With that, let’s jump really over…

Rick:

Truly too, David, I mean a leader in so many ways and inspired a lot of congressmen and Senators both to stand up in that way, he set the standard for that. And like you said, I mean, Convention of States and Article 5, great champion of that, really brought that to light and traveled all over the nation, championing states standing up for those things. So, you’re right, man, I mean, it just a great example. And his legacy is going to live on for a long time because he inspired a lot of other leaders to follow suit in that way.

David:

Yeah, he was almost a single handedly Freedom Caucus by himself. I mean, he managed to do things, to reform Congress in ways the Freedom Caucus is now picked up. But he was really the early pioneer that and he did have a lasting impact on all of us. Probably a lot of folks will never know who made those changes, but Tom Coburn did so much. And so, you know, we give him kudos on this side. The Lord will give him rewards on the other side for all the things he did for the kingdom, but really good guy.

A couple things to point to as far as good news today, in the midst of all the stuff happening with coronavirus, we’ve seen a lot of things happening, where a lot of the State orders and city orders have affected churches and affected what have gone on in churches. And by the way, our friends at First Liberty and Alliance Defending Freedom and Liberty Council had been extremely vigorous and being on top of this. And so, when there’s been orders that have come down, that have singled out churches or religious services, they’ve jumped right on it. And so far, it’s been really good to see Mayors and others back down, say, oops, I didn’t intend that, I didn’t mean to go after churches. I just wanted public gatherings in general. And so, they’ve been really pretty good at backing down. We’ve not seen a lawsuit yet. Although these guys are happy and eager to follow them if someone is going to use a crisis to intrude on the church, so they’re going to do that.

So, they’ve been really watching after. But I’ve seen some churches do some really creative things in the last couple weeks. There’s a church in Ohio that, you know, they were going to respect the social distancing and really, the calls to have small groups. And so, what they did was they went back to old drive in theater style. They got speakers they could put in the cars, they set a big platform up outside the church in the parking lot, people came in their cars, they gave them an FM receiver and they had the service on FM and people could sit in their cars and be part of the service and watch everything that was going on. And so, going back to the old drive in theaters is kind of a fun toss back on a creative way of doing things. And the community near us and the town near where the ranch is, actually, the churches got together and rented the drive in theater over there and they had drive in church, all the churches kind of got together which is good to see churches cooperate in and not having the turf wars. It’s been really, really fun to see that.

One other piece of good news is not only how have churches taken the lead on doing some things. And by the way, the pastor we have in our church, he is a cowboy. He was a professional cowboy for years and years, a really noted name. But he’s been a cowboy. He has not really been into all the social media stuff. So, he decided to do some Facebook Live stuff from church, because people just, you know, they kind of stay at home now. And it was really fun to see older pastors doing things they’ve never done before and step out and use some newer things with older guys. And so that’s been fun to kind of watch some of those guys.

But I’ll point to the governor of Mississippi, Governor Mississippi stepped in as well. And the Governor of Mississippi did his own Facebook Live church service. As the Governor of Mississippi, he led in prayer, he led in Bible study. I mean, really cool to see the leader of your State stepping up and saying, hey for you that can’t get out, if you don’t have a church to go to and you don’t have churches online, here, I’ll do one for you. So, we’ve seen just a lot of good stuff happening this last week with the innovation of people stepping up and using technology to really step up and keep church going and keep that camaraderie and as the Bible says, don’t forsake the assembling of yourselves together. Well, we’re doing it now with technology, not just in physical presence.

Rick:

And so many churches have, you know, responded so quickly and found ways to broadcast their sermons. I saw hilarious Facebook message from a worship leader, friend of mine. He said, if you’re wondering how to pray for your pastors during this time, one thing you could pray for is that if they’ve never done a broadcast that their video won’t turn out to look like a Bin Laden threatening, you know, a Bin Laden hostage video, because some, they’ve never done this, the background looks weird. Anyway, they’re learning quickly and doing a great job and given still a sense of community. But I love these driving theater examples. What a fun way to get everybody together. Only differences you can’t, you know, get out and go back to the concession stand and get some popcorn while you’re at that driving theater. Quick break, we’ll be right back. We got a lot more good news for you on Good News Friday here on WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

We’re back from WallBuilders Live, Good News Friday today, Tim Barton is got our next piece of good news, Tim.

Tim:

Alright, guys, there was article that came out, I believe it was last week and it’s looking at what President Trump has done and how it’s impacting kind of nations on the international level. There were 49 prolife leaders from 16 countries, largely from Latin America and then Spain was another nation involved as well. But the prolife leaders were wanted to thank President Trump for his leadership and the administration’s commitment is what they’re saying to defend the right to life on the international stage.

Now, first of all, this is a huge contrast from where our national leaders have been, at least for the last decade, maybe for several decades. I mean, really on an international scale. You guys, Rick, dad, you all probably can speak to this a little better if they were presidents who since Roe versus Wade have defended life on an international level at least as much as Trump has or at all might be significant. I don’t know of any necessarily, president, I mean backups as Roe versus Wade.

David:

Well, you’ve got Reagan who did the Mexico City policy, which defended life at an international level to what we did and Bush did it also with USAID. But I do not recall a time where that international leaders have thanked a president for being prolife and so that’s a real change.

Tim:

Well, so even, if you look at like the Mexico City policy, how far did that beyond Mexico? Because certainly, if you look at maybe Canada, Mexico, some of the direct connections, but this is 16 countries and the countries that signed this letter were Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia, Peru, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Chile, Bolivia, Uruguay and Spain. So certainly, I’ve not I mean, in my lifetime, right, since Reagan coming forward, I’ve never heard of a president doing something on an international level that, I mean, South America impacting that many nations in these Latin countries. This is a really big deal that we have, right, what so many people thought seemingly one of the most secular presidents we’ve ever had who has turned out to be so good on so many issues.

And we’ve talked about this so many times in this program how President Trump has so pleasantly surprised us in so many areas. And at this point, really, it’s not as much of a surprise, because we’ve seen him do it for several years. But this is just very unique, dad, as you mentioned, certainly, we’ve not seen International nations come out and thank a president of the United States for taking prolife positions. And actually, what’s interesting is even some of these nations that thanked him were present during the March for Life in Washington, DC, they flew up to be part of the march for life, which President Trump right spoke at.

And so, there’s just a lot of unique things in the midst of right now that so much of the shutdown, so much the shelter in place, what we see generally chaotic things around the nation and I guess really more specifically around the world, to see that there are still some victories happening and this time, the prolife circle and I’ll come back to prolife things in a minute.

One thing I want to point out, there was a survey that came out where this survey wanted to know and this is from philanthropy.com. But they wanted to know how people felt about nonprofits and in this time, when so much of the nation seems to be looking to government. We know that so many nonprofits have stepped up in so many ways and now, so many organizations. We talked last week about how many organizations were hiring people and what looked like this down economy and how many positive things were happening from grocery stores and from the trucking industry. Right? We can go down the list. There’s a lot of good things that were happening in the nation, but nonprofits certainly played a very significant role in helping people in need and stepping up to the plate.

And so, the survey went out asking people, how do you feel about nonprofits? And 60% of those polled said, they trust nonprofits response to the pandemic, either a lot or like on a scale of 1 to 5, right, it’s like the 4 or 5, a lot or kind of a lot, right, like kind of up in the top level. What’s interesting about this comparing the nonprofits is and they then asked, well, how do you think your local government is doing? Local Government, 57% of people said they trusted Local government a lot or some. And then they were asked how do you feel the federal government is doing? Federal government was the lowest of the three at 49%. And what they point out based on this survey, this is a really good time for nonprofits, because people are recognizing that nonprofits are doing things of value and are helping people in need. And as much as we have built  a dependency in America to look that the government to solve problems, the fact that people are recognizing, no, in this time nonprofits, we trust them more to do the right thing, then we trust our Local government and certainly more than we trust the Federal government.

So, it is encouraging that even though we don’t want to be in a place that we don’t trust our Federal government that at least we don’t rely on them to solve problems, dad, you and I were talking before the show about how there’s so many silly things happening where people are calling 911 when they run out of toilet paper.

David:

What kind of reliance on government have you developed when you run out of toilet paper and called government at 911, are you…?

Tim:

Yeah, you think the police’s job is to bring you more toilet paper. Like it’s a kind of a silly place that we have come to depend on somebody else to help meet our needs that much. So certainly, it remind…

Rick:

Moving of nannies state for sure.

Tim:

Oh, yeah, certainly our reliance on the government on that level is not good. But again, recognizing that people now are trusting nonprofits to do what’s right and more than they are the government, we’ve talked about how there could be a shift in our nation in a lot of areas. And one of the shift could be that people get back to a little more sovereignty, individual responsibility, state sovereignty. And so, this survey seems to indicate that at least for some level on the nonprofit world, it’s a really good statement that people are not thinking that government is the best one to solve all these problems.

Rick:

Alright guys, quick break, we’ll be right back. We’ve got more good news for folks out there. So, stay with us, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

 

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Rick:

We’re back on WallBuilders Live, thanks for staying with us on this Good News Friday. David Barton got the next piece of good news for today.

David:

Well, we were talking last week that looks like there’s about 20 different vaccines that are being developed across the world. A lot of them will take some months to go through testing, etc to get there. But at the same time, some of them are combinations of existing drugs that are out there. And one of the promising combinations has been that of combining malaria treating drugs with some common antibiotics. So, those two together seem to work really well. And so those tests have done real well in Israel. Israel has helped other nations with those. And they’re saying that where they use this malaria drug, this manufacturer in Israel, where they use that malaria drug with common antibiotics, that is cutting the coronavirus down from 11 days down to 6. And I think 11 is last number I saw on the average length of the run, but it’s down to 6 now, which is really good.

And so, here’s what Israel has done. Israel for free, has sent the United States 6 million anti-malaria tablets in the month of March and they’re sending another 4 million in April. So, you have Israel reaching out and saying, hey, guys, we just want to help. We just appreciate the relationship with you guys, here have 10 million anti-malaria tablets as part of the corona treatment.

So, I mean, Tim, you just mentioned the fact that you’ve got all these international leaders saying thanks to President Trump for what you’ve done with prolife or here’s international nations saying, hey, we just want to help you guys. We appreciate the relationship with you. So that’s good.

The other piece of good news I’ve got is that this thing that, you know, President Trump was talking about last week, but here’s an article on it. Where that they are now kind of retooling some of the car manufacturing plants to make ventilators that are needed in the hospitals. And the headlines says that the FDA has dropped a lot of the regulations to allow this to happen. Well, if it can happen without the regulations, why do we need the regulations?

Rick:

That’s right. That’s right.

David:

And I hope that that’s one of the things that comes out of this. Is that we’re figuring out that, you know, if we get government out of the way, private industry is stepping up a lot faster.

Tim:

And remember, that’s something that we’ve talked about before too, how well President Trump has done, helping get some of those regulations out of the way. And now that the American people are maybe seeing even more of that, I don’t think President Trump naturally needs the encouragement to do more, to deregulate, but he probably could do more if he had the support of the American people. Because now even if the media is going to bash you for doing something that is very good, if the people are recognizing what the media says is dumb on an even greater level, which…

David:

And by the way speaking what media says he’s done. We’ve gone from Trump causing the coronavirus to the headlines I saw this morning that Christians are the ones who caused the coronavirus. So just dumb on several.

Tim:

Yeah, and we’ve seen some of those attacks this week and you’re right, it is done. But one of the other piece of good news, I don’t have the article in front of me, but this is something you can look up is. President Trump’s approval rating has gone up in the midst of this pandemic and the media’s ratings have just continued to tank, where way more people now trust the president than trust the media. And so again, I mean, there’s a lot of what you say positive things. And as you mentioned, if we can help continue to some of these regulations out of the way, which the more than the American people recognize how much these regulations have slowed us down and easier it will be for President Trump to continue to improve the deregulation in some of these industries that don’t need that many regulations.

Rick:

Alright guys, quick break. We’ll be right back for our final piece of good news for the day. Stay with us. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us on this Good News Friday. And there is more good news on our website. There’s a lot of good things happening in the country. And so, let’s get our final piece for today. But make sure you stay tuned to WallBuilders Live throughout the week, because we’re one of those optimistic programs. So even in the storm, there’s a lot of bright spots to look at. Tim, you’re taking us out today with the last piece of good news.

Tim:

Alright, guys. One of the pieces of good news is coming on the State level at so many States and I printed off several articles. There are many more states than what I have printed. But one of the things we know is that states have determined that non-essential medical procedures should not take place in the midst of this crisis. One of the non-essential medical procedures that was determined that should not continue is abortion. So many states have determined that, no, we’re closing down the abortion facilities right now because that’s a non-essential service. That is a really interesting position because as a prolife person, I’d like I’ll take the victory however we can get it.

And right now, I would say this is always a non-essential service to speak of. Because the only time you could argue essential is if it’s in defense of the life of the mother. But we’ve had medical professionals on before who will point out that the way you save the life of the mother is not to kill the child, you prioritize. We have to save the mother’s life first, because if we don’t save the mother, we can’t save the baby. And if in saving the mother, you lose the baby, that’s not what you were trying to do. You were trying to save both lives. You just save the mother’s first and then the baby. But nonetheless, there are many states that have closed down abortion facilities.

And so, among the list I have in my hand in front of me, Louisiana and Texas were some of the early states to do it. Idaho, this headline says Idaho governor signs bill banning abortions. He said abortion is not healthcare. Then you have Mississippi and dad, I think you pointed out Mississippi, the governor Tate Reeves was the one who also did the Bible study. So, probably not surprising coming from Mississippi that he’s going to say that they’re going to stop abortion. Although this was really interesting in this article. It says Mississippi Governor, Tate Reeves urged the State’s only abortion facility to close and comply with the State order postponing all elective medical procedures due to the coronavirus. I had no idea that Mississippi only had one and we’ve had so many good news programs, maybe we talked about that at one point. But Mississippi doing incredible things in the prolife movement.

This is the one that was most surprising though. Maryland orders abortion clinics closed during coronavirus crisis.

David”

Super blue Maryland.

Tim:

Yeah, you would expect maybe some of this coming from a conservative governor and in a conservative state…

David:

Like in Mississippi

Tim:

Not from Maryland. And a shout out goes to Dan Cox who is a prolife State Rep there in Maryland. And he put out a request in the Maryland Department of Health. And he said hey, can we follow some of these other States who have made some of the decisions. He’s mentioned Ohio, Texas and Louisiana to halt elective abortion surgeries. Department of Health from Maryland replies back, essentially, tells him it’s a good idea. And then Maryland decides they’re going to shut down abortion, because that is a non-essential procedure. So, just really good news in the prolife front in the midst of this craziness.

Rick:

Well, David, Tim, thanks for so much good news today. I know folks are excited to be able to hear some of that good news during these difficult times. And you know, as we said here on WallBuilders Live when this all first started was, hey, first of all, we’re not going to have a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind. We know that God is faithful and we know that there are solutions to these problems and they no matter how big the challenges are, we know who has control. And then we need to be, you know, logical during these times, we need to be reasonable and looking at these things from that biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. While looking at the good news, looking at all these things eyes wide open and looking for ways to hold our elected officials accountable and encourage them to follow the Constitution, the Federal Constitution and also our State Constitutions and our local ordinances and make sure that we’re not overreaching in government which we do see a lot of right now across the country, but they we’re maintaining a rational perspective and we’re protecting liberty at the same time. There is a way to do this in a very balanced way.

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