Churches Are Stepping Up During The Crisis – With Chad Connelly: In darkness, people are drawn to light. The time of crisis is the time for the Church to rise to the occasion and seize this opportunity to shine with solutions. Tune in today to hear Chad Connoley from Faith Wins, discuss how they can be equipped to do so!

Air Date: 04/21/2020

Guest: Chad Connelly

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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Faith and the Culture


Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. It’s WallBuilders Live where we talk about today’s hottest topics on policy and faith and the culture, always from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. It’s day 34 of the COVID crackdowns across the country. And of course, if you’re in one of those states where you’re not allowed to go anywhere or do anything because of the edicts of a governor, maybe you’re looking for something to do. Well, listen, a lot of you are schooling from home for the first time, now some of us have been homeschooling for our children’s entire lives and we’ve enjoyed it and there’s a lot of great state associations out there that can really help you with figuring out how to do this and not lose your sanity and actually, enjoy it and you will find some wonderful time with your kids. And so later in the week, we’re going to have, actually tomorrow, Sam Sorbo with us to talk about that.

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The Role of the Church in this Crisis

Alright, David, Tim, you know, last week, we talked a lot about the role of the church in this crisis and stepping up and some of the cool things that are going on, some of the bad things are going on and do later in the program, Chad Connelly is going to be with us, we’re going to be talking about faith wins, we’re going to talk about how he’s helping to equip churches to respond in this time. But you know, I think you guys said it when it first happened. I mean, this is an opportunity actually for church. Even though there’s a lot of bad going on, it’s an opportunity for the church to be seen as the epicenter of the community once again.


Yeah, one of the things that we often try to point out to people is that in a room of darkness, the light is what people are drawn to and look to. And in a culture that is not sure what the answer is, and a church, right, that led by the Bible, we are given the answers. God is given us the key to so many things and we’re supposed to be the light of the world, we’re supposed to be the salt of the earth. We are supposed to help be the solution in times of crisis and not that we’re escapist and we never have any problems. No, we understand from Scripture there’s going to be problems, but we understand in the midst of problems we’re not in this alone, that there is a God who was with us. That we are not given the spirit of fear, but of love, right, of self-control, the sound mind that we are given this power that we are given.

There’s a lot that we have from scripture that we can lean to in times like this and especially when there are people in need. We know that pure and undefiled religion is to look after widows and orphans through time of need, that greater love is no one that he laid down his life for his friends, that whatever we do to the least of these, we’ve done unto him. There’s so much that should guide our thinking as Christians, that should lead us to want to be part of the solution and culture.

Check Out Our Last Good News Friday

And we see that churches have tried to step up in some cases. We talked about last week where Judges stepped and told churches they couldn’t meet, they couldn’t do things. If people did not hear Good News Friday last week, go back and listen to Good News Friday, a lot of good stuff happened. We have Kelly Shackleford on Good News Friday and Kelly pointed out, right, that some of this stuff were in some cities, you had mayors, you had different leaders, who were saying that, no churches can’t assemble, they can’t meet.

And then Judges stepped in to point out actually, no, this is constitutional, right. They’re following CDC guidelines. What they’re doing is totally legal, it’s totally safe. There’s a lot of battle that is waves and yet there’s some good things that are happening as churches are stepping out to lead. And this is something that certainly churches ought to be looking right now for creative ways of how can we help? How can we make a difference? in times of crisis, this is when the church should be the most relevant. And as Christians, this is when we should be the most engaged. And how can we help? How can we serve? How can we love? Because this is when we see so many people in need.


And one of the folk who’s really been good at helping churches see the role they have is Chad Connelly, we’ve known Chad for a number of years. He was very active in helping churches get focused on elected leaders around them. I mean, the leaders you have in the community make a big difference. We looked last week, the mayor of Charlotte, the governor of North Carolina, what’s happening there. So, having the right kind of leaders can make it easier or harder on the church and Chad has been one of the ones encouraging the church to really step up and take voice. So, Chad Connelly, great guy, great perspective, now has an organization called Faith Wins, which really helps equip the church to be salt and light in the community.

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Welcome Chad Connolly


Welcome back to WallBuilders Live, thanks for staying with us today. Chad Connolly is with us from Faith Wins. Chad, man, thanks for your time today and all the chaos that’s out there right now.


Rick, are you kidding? I’m honored, brother. I love WallBuilders and what you and Tim and David have done for years and I’ve watched your stuff and supported you all and I’m honored to be on with you, brother.


Well, we appreciate what you’re doing as well, waking up the church, waking up pastors, equipping them. I mean, the stuff you’re doing with Faith Wins, that’s what we need. The church should be the epicenter of the community and you know, in all of this chaos right now as people are looking for answers, what an opportunity that churches have to step up and to bring the truth.


Amen and only God, I mean, you and I’ve been talking and I believe, Romans 8:28 is true and all things do work together for good to those that love God and are called according to purpose. And man, he’s calling us right now and he is going to draw people unto himself, online, through ways that you and I never imagined, so God is in control., he’s on the throne, brother.

Equipping Churches to be Salt and Light


Amen. Amen. Well, you guys we’re already at it, equipping churches and preparing them to be salt and light in the community and to wake up and train, you literally trained the church to teach biblical worldview on how do you be a good citizen? And so now, you’re kind of thrust into this opportunity where churches are looking for answers and so we want to send people to your website, and get you to just tell us a little bit about how the church can find its voice. Not only during this immediate crisis, if you will in the country, but as we come out of this, how do we rebuild and you know, as you and I were talking about off air, how do we become stronger on the other side of this instead of it, letting it weakness?


No, Amen, brother. Now, I’ll give you a little bit of background so you know how this comes together, because this is maybe the greatest opportunity in our lifetime, is for the church to be exactly what Jesus designed and call for us to be, to be his hands and feet, right, to reach out to people who are in need and to be recognized out there.

I mean, I was talking about pastor yesterday morning and there are thousands of people watching online who probably wouldn’t have [inaudible 09:17] in the doors. There are people who wouldn’t have conceived the prayer, you know what, a month ago who are now seeking out God in prayer. But in a bigger sense, Rick, Faith Wins came out of, you know, I’ve spoken in churches for 20-25 years and I got to tell you, David Barton has been a big part of my story and other heroes like Bob McEwen just encouraging me to be one more voice out there telling pastors, you know, you are the ones who people look to for direction. I love what David did and what you guys researched on how the communities look to pastor’s years ago and how maybe some that is fallen away. Because let’s face it, we’ve been taught out of the arena, Rick.

Maximizing the Faith-Based Vote

Our state party chairman in South Carolina, I got to have a front row seat in the 2012 election, I watched how the political people just completely ignored the evangelical vote. And also, I first had the guy named Rights Priebus, Rights is a believer. He actually saw me on a show on MSNBC, I did every political show on television at the time and I was defending my faith.

And so, I’m going to talk to Rights, I said, man, the church needs to be involved, they need to be maximizing the Christian vote in every election. And the long story short, he created a position for me called GOP Faith, I got to be the first ever national director of faith engagement for either party. I went all over the country, went to 43 states and spoke to about 85,000 pastors. And then when I left the RNC in 2017, I started my own C3 called Faith Wins to just maximize the Christian vote and Rick, not just for a national election, but down to school boards and City Councils and County Councils, because Christians should have a presence that is massive in every arena in the public arena, brother.


As you’re describing that, I have to imagine, probably the number one question objection, whatever they that you got was, well, wait a minute, aren’t you mixing politics with the church? How did you respond to that?


Yeah, man, I love getting that question. I absolutely love it. And I handle it two ways. Number one is, and I’ve got it from a handful of pastors. Pastor, can you define the beginning of politics in your Bible and the end of your spiritual life? Can you define that? And number two, what does it mean to be salt and light if we’re not maximizing our Christian? And here’s the other thing I do. I quote, a pastor buddy of mine from DC, a guy named Bradwell, he gave this great quote, I’ve been using it for a long time now.

God Wants Us Involved

You know, it is inconceivable that the God who created human government would want his own people to step out of it. It’s inconceivable. How in the world would the God who created one of the three institutions he gave us, Rick, the family, the church and government, why would God want us to step out? But here’s the bigger stance, because you really got to talk about the root of where that question come from. Right?

Unless you and I face it, the left and the media have been pretty effective at saying, who, you Christians, you’re great at evangelism and missions and my kids love your vacation Bible school, but preacher, you shouldn’t be involved in politics, right? You may offend somebody. Well, we’re Christians, we don’t want to offend anybody, we put on our, turn the other cheek, Jesus, we back away. And lo and behold, we found out now, we better find our turn the tables over Jesus. Rick, we’re facing questions, attacks on religious liberty, maybe like never before and maybe that’s what God’s doing in some of this and allowing is so that we reengage and reestablish our presence and our dominance in the culture for where we should be, where he expects us to be.


I love that expression: we better find our turn the table over, Jesus. That’s so good. And so, we got this warped, pigeonholed view of Jesus, as my friend Cliff Graham says, he’s just sitting around, petting lambs all day, is what we should kind of imagine him somehow the way that we pigeonhole them there. But you’re right. I mean, there’s definitely that there is a time to stand up in the culture and absolutely. In some cases, you have to push back against culture and that, you know, you can do it the right way, obviously. That’s part of what you guys are training people on how to do. Is how do you stand up as a church and be true salt and light where, you know, you’re bringing out the flavor in the culture, you’re preserving the culture? That is the role of the church. Give me a little bit on what pastors are, how they’re responding to you right now, like in this crisis and saying, you know, how can we help more in our communities?

Informing the Influencers


Man, they are flocking us. So, my plan was to basically do what I did with GOP Faith and travel around to the key states and maximize the Christian vote by informing them of, you know, issues that are going on, but also conducting a nonpartisan Christian voter registration. And what we did with the crisis and the stay at home stuff was we moved to conference calls. I was looking at the numbers from yesterday. So, from January 4th until yesterday, I’ve had 1,339 pastors I’ve never engaged with all my conference calls.

From January 4th until March the 12th, which was the last in-person meeting I did before traveling did, I was with exactly 724 pastors who had never been on my list. You know, I think they’re responding. They need help. They need inspiration. They’re being drained, Rick. They need somebody help and give them, not just the day to day inspiration, now hang in there, be not weary in well doing, stay in the fight, but also to give them the big picture. Hey, this too, will pass.

As I say, this came to pass and it’s going to passed and it’s going to live. And at that point, man, we have a major national election coming up this fall that’s going to decide the direct, look at what we’re looking at. We want people who have God’s people around them in key spots. If Christians can’t take a look and see everything that’s going on and the importance of having God’s people, men and women in key spots, I don’t know what’s ever going to tell them that.


Man, you’re so right. And you know, that really It comes down to the heart of it, is that what makes a society flourish is when you have the right principles and we know that all the answers are in the Bible. And so if we have leaders that look to the Bible for wisdom and the way that they govern, then they handle these kind of crisis situations as well as everyday life much better in a way that allows us to still have our religious liberties and all of our other freedoms that we hold dear.

Biblical Worldview

And it all comes back to who are we choosing as those leaders? Are we choosing leaders that look to that biblical worldview and that exhibit that description we get in Exodus of able man, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness? So, I mean, that’s what you’re doing, is getting churches to have that voice at every level. And I love the fact that you didn’t just say, you know, presidential election. You went all the way down to school board and I mean, it goes to water district, it goes all the way down to that local level.

So, the key factor that people need to be thinking about is coming back to having the church get their citizens to understand biblical citizenship and then live that out. And that really begins with voter registration drives, like you guys show people how to do and pastor speaking on the issues. So, when they go to and then they connect with you, then you help them learn how to do this if they’ve never done it before or if they have, you connect them with others that need help as well.


That’s exactly right. It’s pretty simple, right? It’s not rocket science to do. But pastors are the busiest people you ever meet. Right? They got everybody pulling on them. So, I tell them, I don’t want to be a drag on you. I don’t want to be a burden. I want to give you the tools and resources so that we just don’t do voter registration, but we measure it. I’ll give you this example.

Think Like Jesus

When I taught the [inaudible 16:26] in 2012 and we launched the Romney campaign, didn’t spend a dime on anything faith related, it just offended me as a Christian. Come on, man, talk about, you know, things that matter. And so, I was actually teaching the book by George Barna and of course, I love David’s book with Barna ‘U-Turn’, but he did one several years ago called ‘Think Like Jesus’ and it’s just a biblical worldview book. Right? It’s my God is everywhere. My God is big enough to be 247 and you know, 4000 days here, kind of thing. My God is everything. We don’t give up our First Amendment rights because we stand behind the pulpit. Right? We don’t lose those constitutional rights. God is everything all the time.

And when I started to recognize this until, right, I looked at those numbers that David and George Barna had given and of course, people push back on them because their definitions are different, it’s cloudy. But if George Barna’s numbers are even close and I trust Barna’s numbers and his research…yeah, yeah, no doubt. Somewhere around 80 million people sitting in churches on a typical Sunday, right, not now, but it’s a typical Sunday, 30 million votes, Rick.

Now, by anybody’s definition and I said on Mike Huckabee new show, somewhere between 55 and 58 million people sitting in churches didn’t go vote in a major election. And of course, I got pushback from the experts, both by pew, by Gallup, by everybody’s definition, somewhere between 40 and 50 million people who profess Jesus is Lord don’t go exercise their right to vote. We don’t have to put up with the slaughter of babies or the constant attacks on Israel or all the threats on religious liberty.

Look at the difference in governors and how they run things and the constitutional, not just religious liberties, but the constitutional liberties they’re protecting in the crisis versus the progressive governors who are taking rights and freedom. We watch David Bynum be arrested because he’s protesting outside of abortion mill the other day, they can do abortion, but boy, don’t go out there and…

Viewpoint Discrimination


No, he’s there to counsel girls and serve right there and obey in all of the, you know, distancing laws and all that stuff that they threw into place and yet they still arrested him. So, but you’re right, abortion is protected, taking the life is protected, counseling that girl is not protected, because government was deciding what is essential and what is not essential. What you shouldn’t be doing, I’m getting off on a tangent. But you’re exactly right, it comes back to what kind of leaders are you choosing? Are they going to protect those constitutional rights, including freedom of religion or not? And that’s our duty. 50 million sitting at home and not, just think about it? I mean, Chad, you know, what is it? 1 million, 2 million typically is the difference in a nationwide election, let alone all those local elections you were talking about.


Brother, it’s a big deal. Look, we’ve all watched this transgender agenda move across the country. It started in Charlotte, North Carolina, Rick, there was a mayor elected one of her first council meetings. Now, surely, the city of Charlotte has bigger things than to worry about who goes to what bathroom and based on what biology, alright. I mean, let’s face it, whether if Jesus don’t come home and they dig up your carcass, if Jesus done come back in a million years, they dig up your carcass, they go find boy or girl, you can define it how you want to define it, but that’s just the truth. But so, one of her…


Now, wait a minute, Chad, you sound like you believe in science?


Yeah, that’s exactly science, that’s called fact…


We’re still actually believe in biology and science, the other side says, we don’t like science. Anyway, go ahead.

One Church Could Change the City


One of her first meetings, she passes the bathroom law, the order. Of course, it sweeps across the state, the basketball conferences, the NCAA, the NBA, they go nuts, they create corporate terrorism. Do you know what the turnout of the election was in video, Charlotte, who elected that lady Mayor? It was 6%, Rick. It was 6%. Here’s what that means.

Is that means one big church in the city of Charlotte could have shut that nonsense down. It swept the whole nation. The left and the progressives and the media and I don’t mean to repeat myself and all the media is not liberal, it’s only like a 96% number. Right? But they have been so good at talking us out of the arena that we sit at home and believe my vote doesn’t count. That’s why I talk about City Council, County Council, school board, Congress, the President. Man, it’s not just about a national election, it’s about God’s people.

Like my buddy Bradwell, I’ll give him credit again. It is inconceivable that the God of human government would want his people to get out of the system. That’s crazy. But yet, that’s what too many of how pastors believe in.


Oh, Chad, so good, man, good stuff. You’re such a better man than me because you said you’ve been quoting Brad’s quote for all that time. See, I do the Zig Ziglar thing. Once I click, give it to you three times I said, after that it’s mine. But you’re still giving him credit.

Get Your Church Involved


Well, I told Brad that Zig Ziglar quote, I that quote.


Hey, man, we got to get you back. Right now, though really, we want to encourage people., that’s a website you can go to, get connected to Chad, get your church involved. Not only in the initial voter registration drive, but keeping connected with those folks and get the turnout and make the difference. This is what it’s going to take. Man, I’m so excited about what you’re doing. Let’s do it again soon, brother.


You know what, listen, give David and Cheryl a hug and tell Tim, hey, and I love what you’re doing. I believe in you, I support you. God bless you.


Thank you, man. Stay with us, folks. We’ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.

One-Room Schoolhouse

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We’re back here on WallBuilders Live, thanks for staying with us. Thanks to Chad Connelly for being with us as well and we’ll have links today at so you can jump right over to Faith Wins and get involved with their organization this year. Very important to have guys like this during an election, well, all the time, but certainly during an election year, during all this crisis, really helping pastors and navigate some of this in terms of how to be good corporate citizens. Can I say corporate citizens? How about church citizens? What’s the right way to say that?


Well, I think corporate in the sense of collective all together the corporate body of Christ, the larger focus. And yeah, being corporate citizens, the body of Christ really does need to step up. As he said, the church really does need to regain its voice and I love the analogy he used. He said, we’ve been the ‘turn the other cheek, Jesus’, but we need to find our ‘turn the table over Jesus’. We need to get a backbone to step up and be seen here.

Why Even a Battle?


And one of the things too, as we pointed out in the opening segment, where Kelly Shackleford last week on Good News Friday was talking about some of the victories we have seen. Well, one of the reasons that we had the battle in the first place is because we had people in positions who didn’t have the right worldview, didn’t have the constitutional understanding and so, they were telling churches that they couldn’t step up, that churches couldn’t be engaged, that churches couldn’t have service, as opposed to going, wait a second, no, this is constitutional, this is, right First Amendment right with assembly, with expression, with religion, like totally all of this is constitutional, you’re following CDC guidelines.

Part of the battles we fight are because the church has not been engaged in the process and therefore we have gotten people in positions of power who don’t have the right ideology in the worldview when it comes to the Constitution, when it comes to morality, when it comes to the Bible. And this is something he even pointed out that it would be inconceivable that the God who created government would want his kids to step out of that arena, when really God made three arenas and it was his kids he wanted leading in all of those arenas.

Churches Are Stepping Up During The Crisis – With Chad Connelly

And so, part of what the church ought to do is find how can we engage in the civic arena, how can we get back? And, right as Chad pointed out, this should be in every single area of the civic arena, whether we’re looking at local level with City Council, with school board, all the way up to, right, the US Congressman to the President of the United States, whatever across the board it is, we ought to be looking for how we can get engaged in the process. And the more the church steps up, then the less of these battles we will have to deal with in the future, because we will have the right kind of people in those positions that we don’t have to deal with the same kind of nonsense we’ve dealt with for so long.

And dad, as you pointed out, I love the analogy. When for so long we’ve thought of Jesus as just being soft and meek, alright, but the meek will inherit the earth. Well, that’s true. The meek will inherit the earth, but I’m pretty sure Jesus even talked about he didn’t come just to bring peace. There was going to be some division, right, where family was going to go against family. And the only reason that happens is because somebody is standing up and proclaiming something that offend somebody else, Jesus had a message of offense in so many situations. Now, he said it in love, but truth is offensive to people that are offended by truth. And this is where the church can’t be scared to promote truth or get engaged in the process to defend truth. We have to step up in this situation.


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