Democrats Out of Touch, Immigration, Sex Education, and More! Good News Friday!: We call it Good News Friday because it’s a chance for David and Tim to share some good news from across the nation and around the world. We don’t often hear good news from the media, but here on WallBuilders Live we are about to share with you just some of the good things happening right now. In this episode, we talk about how California Democrats endorse Pro-Life Republican John Cox for Governor. A survey that shows how Hispanic voters really feel about immigration. How teen pregnancy plummets after defunding. How students in Louisiana can pray again! And so much more!
Air Date: 02/09/2018
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Faith And The Culture
Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. This is WallBuilders Live! Where we talk about today’s hottest topics on policy, faith, and other areas of the culture. We’re always doing that from a particular perspective – it’s a Biblical, historical, and Constitutional perspective.
We have that conversation here with David Barton and Tim Barton. David is our founder here at WallBuilders and America’s premier historian. Tim Barton is our president and he’s a national speaker and pastor. And my name is Rick Green, I’m a former Texas legislator.
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We call Friday’s “Good News Friday” because it gives us a chance to catch up on a lot of the good news not covered in the major media. David and Tim have been collecting that for us. We never get through their entire stacks, but we’re going to do the best we can and fire some good news at you today. Tim Barton’s starting us off – Tim, what’s our first piece of good news?
Well, guys, we’re going to California for this one. It’s something that– I don’t remember if there’s a movie, I don’t remember if there’s some kind of show where backwords is the normal, where things that it’s like an upside down kind of world. I don’t know if there’s a good analogy, but if there’s something you can think of where in this world the what’s normal is opposite, and what’s opposite is normal. That’s kind of what this good news story is about.
So, out in California, there is a pro-life Republican, John Cox, running for governor and John Cox received the endorsement of pro-life Democrats. Now to me that’s a little bit of an upside down world because when’s the last time a Democrat endorsed a Republican for governor? And then in California, the fact that there’s even pro-life Democrats is to me quite astounding–
–kind of in this generation, this era.. But this is something that’s so interesting to me because it’s–
Are Pro-Life Democrats on the Endangered Species List?
Has anybody applied for them to be on the endangered species list?
Oh, that’s a great question.
That’s a good question.
That’s a great question.
I just didn’t know if– fish and wildlife takes a while on some of those things, it might– Anyway– Sorry, go ahead.
Well, it’s interesting that you have in California an example of people that are putting principle over party. Which is certainly not a very normal thing these days where people are much more dedicated to the party line. And I understand wanting to support a party. There’s no doubt we, as individuals, generally tend to be more on one political spectrum than the other, but we always want to put principle first.
And so it’s really cool to see that out in California there are Democrats saying, “Wait a second, this pro-life principle is more important than a party name.” So, they are supporting someone pro-life because that is a more important position. So, it’s just really cool and interesting news coming out of California that you have Democrats supporting a Republican for governor because of a principled position when it comes to the issue of life.
Now, if life is really that important, I don’t know how are in the Democratic Party because there can’t be many candidates in the Democratic Party they can support if life is the issue.
Polling – Pro-Life Democrats Still a Very Significant Constituency of the Democratic Party
Well, that’s part of the news is the fact they endorse a Republican means there were no Democrat pro lifers to endorse. And polling shows that pro-life Democrats are still a very, very, significant constituency in the Democrat Party. It’s just that they don’t have any leaders they can look to. What was it, two or three months ago when we did the infant born alive protection act where the House voted to say, “Hey, if a child lives past an abortion, you can’t kill them after they’re born.” And only two Democrats voted in favor of that bill of not killing children after they are born.
So, the other Democrat said, “It’s okay if you’re trying to have an abortion, and the baby’s born, well, you know, you were really trying to kill it, so, it’s okay. Go ahead and kill it even after it’s been born because you were trying to do that.” I can’t fathom how someone thinks that is an intellectually, or I guess morally is probably right, but intellectually honest or morally conducive position that this is an kay position to have you have. You have to be morally bankrupt.
Just a small reminder that President Barack Obama took the same position when he was a senator in the state of Illinois – twice.
Well, and not to just throw specific people under the bus, but you have to be pretty morally bankrupt–
You Have to be Morally Bankrupt
–to say that it’s okay to kill a born child after a botched abortion that, “Well, no, no, no, just go out and kill the child, it’s fine. Whether you break it’s neck, or you snip it’s spine, or whatever you do, it’s fine.” You have to be morally bankrupt and then intellectually dishonest–
–to say that, “No, no, no, because you were trying to kill it as an abortion, now it’s okay to kill them once they’re alive.” Well, at that point, if we’re going to follow this to its logical end, well, what if I tried to abort you and now you’re five? Well, can I still kill you because I don’t want you anymore and I tried? It’s intellectually dishonest to pretend like this is a moral position that you can take. The fact that Democrats are supporting that position is astounding to me.
The fact the Democrat elected officials are supporting that position. Because there is still a very large segment of Democrats who do not support that position, but they just don’t get choices up top. But kudos to the Democrats, the pro-life Democrats, in California for staying with their principle above their party.
You’re exactly right, Tim, that is the right thing to do. And you know, you mention, most of us have a choice in political parties. But hopefully our principles trump that and we’ll leave that party when we need to on a specific issue if they’re not right on it. That’s what Democrats in California have done and that is great news.
Going to take a quick break, guys. We’ll be right back with more good news. David Barton up next with good news here on WalBuilders Live..
Moment From American History
This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. Alexis De Tocqueville, a political official from France, traveled to the United States in 1831 and penned his observations in the now famous book, “Democracy In America.”
Being from France, what he found in America was completely unexpected to him. He reported, “Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention. And the longer I stayed there the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found that they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country.”
Did Tocqueville recognized that it was Biblical Christianity and the morals it produced that made America great? For more information about Alexis Tocqueville and the positive influence of Christianity in early America go to WallBuilders.com.
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Good News Friday today and we’ll get to as much good news as we can and share it with you today. I’m sure we’re going to run out of time. David and Tim will not get to their full stacks, but you can get into our archives section and get some of the good news we’ve shared over the last few weeks. David Barton up next – David, what’s our good news?
Well, I’m going to go to a big issue that’s being debated right now in Congress and will be probably for the next several months, and that’s immigration reform. You look at what Trump did in running on that issue. And in running on that issue against Hillary, 70 percent of voters said that immigration was a high priority in their thinking.
Now, we were told that Trump took very extreme positions whether it be on border security, whether it be on limiting immigration, whether it be on stopping chain immigration, whatever it was. Those are considered radical positions. But I will point out that 70 percent of voters said that’s a really big issue to them. And of those who said that, two out of three voted for Trump. Which means that most voters who are concerned about immigration, of which 70 percent were, they agreed with Trump’s positions more than they did Hillary’s positions.
Well, now we’re into the congressional side of this thing of, how are we going to handle it? What are we going to do? We saw that that was an issue behind Democrats trying to do the government shutdown. That didn’t last long because that blew up in their face. Nonetheless, this is one of the cards that Democrats have been holding on the table because Trump is way too radical on this.
And obviously, the most significant opposition to Trump on this is out of the Hispanic community. And all you have to do is watch CNN, or MSNBC, or read news articles, and you will see Hispanic leaders talking about how radical and how bad Trump is on the immigration issue.
Here’s the Rest of the Story
Here’s the rest of the story. Let me get– here’s a poll just done by that right wing bastion of conservatism, Harvard University.
Right, right. I mean, left.
Left, right, exactly. Or left exactly. And according to a recent Harvard Harris survey, three quarters of Hispanic voters believe that immigration to the United States should be based on the merit of the individual, rather than on family ties. Oh my gosh, that is a Trump position that we need to redo immigration and bring in those who can contribute the most, rather than those who have family ties. And wait a minute, that is 72 percent of Hispanic voters say that.
They said, 72 percent of Hispanic voters said, immigration should be based on a person’s ability to contribute to America as measured by their education and skills, rather than being based on a person having relatives in the United States. 72 percent of Hispanic voters. Now, that’s not the image we have seen on any news program that I have seen. Furthermore, 81 percent of Hispanic voters said they preferred a secure border over open borders – 81 percent. Have you heard numbers like that from any national news program?
No way. Yeah, not of anybody, no.
That’s kind of like the pro-life Democrats.
This Ought to Shock Democrats
This ought to shock Democrats to see– and two out of three Hispanics vote Democratic, so this ought to shock the Democrats to see where Harvard now puts people here. Only twenty eight percent of Hispanics said that they believe there should be family based immigration. That’s the big issue that Democrats are holding up on immigration reform.
And even Hispanics don’t agree with them on that. Amazing.
That completely undercuts every argument they’ve made. Now, obviously getting that– how long did you say that study was?
Brand new – just out.
Okay, so good. We’ll see what kind of reporting happens on it. Hopefully others are sharing this as well. And like you said, coming from Harvard, not a bastion of conservatism at all, it’s kind of hard for them to poke holes in it. So, very good news.
I will say this, Rick, the survey has now been out approximately two weeks and I’ve seen no reporting on it.
Yeah, no, they’re going to– That is not one they’re going to run a headline with – not on CNN anyway.
That’s right. But two weeks it’s out now, but that’s really good news. At least if we can get policy moving in the direction, even Hispanics want it,–
The Common Sense Policy that Most Americans Want
–it’s the common sense policy that most Americans want.
And I don’t mean to throw cold water on it by saying it’s not going to be reported. The good news is that even if they don’t report it, it gives ammunition to the policy fight in Washington right now for those legislators that are trying to get some good reforms passed here. They can say, “Look–”, when they’re sitting across the table from those Democrat legislators, “Look, it’s your constituents are saying the same thing that we’re saying, so–”
Let me turn it political for a minute. Because mentioning that two out of three Hispanics vote Democrat, Hispanics are overwhelmingly pro-life. And so when you take something like Democrat votes on the infant born alive protection act, and you combine that with where Democrats are trying to push immigration where Hispanics don’t agree with it, 2018 may actually look a lot different than what Democrats are predicting for themselves. And they may get slammed with a tsunami they didn’t see coming because they are so far out of touch with where their people are.
They’re in that echo chamber in D.C. we talked about last week. Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz saying, “Well, a thousand dollar tax cut, people don’t want that, they don’t care about, who wants a thousand dollar tax?” They are so far out of touch with where most Americans are that they may find that their predictions on the 2018 tsunami against Trump may be exactly the opposite of what they predict. We’ll see.
Quick break. We’ll be right back with more good news. Stay with us, folks. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.
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Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. It’s Good News Friday today. Thanks for joining us again. And also, if you missed the first two segments, this program will be available on our website at WallBuildersLive.com for you. And while you’re there, you can go into the archives and listen to some previous Good News Friday programs if you’d like more good news.
Tim Barton is going to give us some right now, Tim?
Sex Education Study
Guys, I have an article in front of me that’s covering data that was recently released from the CDC the Center for Disease Control and it’s dealing with sex education in schools. And so just briefly, to kind of look at a few thoughts, 47 percent of students back in the early 2000s admitted to being sexually active. Come forward to 2015, that number has dropped from 47 to 41 percent. So, the numbers have gone down a little bit which was surprising for researchers, even those at CDC, but people reading these results.
What’s interesting that they acknowledge is that during a lot of the Obama administration, the sex education that was happening in schools was largely promoting a message of, “If it feels good, do it. Try it out. Go for it.” A lot of students who were in school in sex education under this– actually it’s reported that they said they felt more pressure to engage in sexual activity from their sex ed class than they did from their boyfriend or girlfriend.
Which I think is fascinating, right? When you have a teacher promoting and encouraging you to be sexually active more so than someone you’re in a relationship with, that’s very interesting to me. Well, so one of the things that is pointed out, even from the CDC information, is that for most young people, they actually thought it was good to wait to have sex. In fact, the majority of young people supported saving sex for marriage, they didn’t like the idea of casual sex, they wanted to wait. Or identified they wished they had waited longer before they became sexually active.
Now, all of that, one of the things that is really good news about this is what happened very recently. The latest spending bill, Republicans took– there was 110 million dollars going into what was it, the teen pregnancy prevention programs. Which is a sex ed programs that’s promoting all of this moral and sexual debauchery essentially, right? Without getting into graphic details that probably wouldn’t be appropriate on a family based radio program, there was a lot of very graphic sexual things there encouraging and teaching the students how to do.
New Spending Bill to Send Funds to Abstinence Based Training Program
Well, under this new spending bill, Republicans have taken that 110 million and they’ve reduced what’s going to this teen pregnancy prevention program. And they’ve redirected a portion of it to go to a different training program that’s an abstinence based training program. And so what’s interesting about kind of a big picture of this, is that kids already have not been in favor of a lot of what they’ve– what’s been promoted to them. Even though they’re feeling pressured by the teacher, the instructor, who is teaching these programs, they’re feeling more pressure from that individual to engage in sexual activity than they are from their peers around them, from their boyfriend, or girlfriend, as it was. And they actually, the students acknowledge they think sex is really best saved for marriage.
Well, now we’re finally getting to the place that we are going to start funding, from a government perspective, funding programs that would promote those kind of values that abstinence is best. And so the numbers from the CDC in this article identifies a lot of researchers and even some of their astonishment by the fact that most kids are not engaging in sexual activity. And the vast majority of kids believe that sex is better saved for marriage, it’s better to not be in a casual sex scenario, in these casual sexual relationships.
Which is very contrary to, number one, what they’re being taught. Number two, what most of culture believes about them. And then number three, that they believe that abstinence is a good thing. Certainly different than a lot of what we hear, but that’s really encouraging.
Especially based on what we’ve been teaching the last many years to know that it has not really gotten a hold of them, it hasn’t grabbed and kind of dug down and sunk roots in them, it hasn’t reached their heart. They’re thinking, “No, this is not the way it should be. It’s something different.” So, this is really encouraging and now especially that the spending bill is going to promote abstinence and help bring that funding back to education. Really good news.
Another Interesting Poll
Well, it goes with something that actually is an interesting poll that I’ve got in my hands. I didn’t know what you were going to bring up, but this fits right with it. And I will point out what Tim said about the previous approach on funding. Under the Obama administration, 90 percent of sex ed funding went to promoting sexual activity rather than abstaining or abstinence based stuff. So, this is a new direction in the last year under Trump. Obama, 90 percent went there.
But here’s where the public is on that issue. The public, when asked about that issue, the majority of the public absolutely says that sex ed should give practical skills teaching teens how to wait for sex. They said consensual sex, even with the use of contraception, does not make teen sex acceptable. Which I find amazing because we see all these numbers and all these polls where that we’re becoming so licentious and so liberal on our sexual behavior and the numbers aren’t indicating that.
A majority said the teens should be encouraged to avoid sex, just as they are encouraged to avoid other risk such as smoking and underage drinking. And it said that teens should learn that the use of contraception does not make sex safe. In other words, we’re told, “Oh have sex safe.” Parents want the kids to know that, “Hey, contraception doesn’t make safe sex.”
So, all of this is exactly with what Tim was just saying, what he was just covering. There’s a national poll that goes with it. And again, look where the votes are on this thing. Democrats were on the wrong side of sex ed, Obama was on the wrong side of it, here’s where the American people are, and here’s where the current Congress has gone.
It’s again, there’s just so many issues lining up where the Democrats are going to make themselves totally irrelevant on all values, on all morals, even on immigration policy. Because life, other things, they’re just so out of touch with where Americans are right now on current polling.
And, guys, I don’t– this may be too general of a statement, but I know we’ve many times on Good News Friday talked about the scientific data showing that the abstinence education is what works. And the other side never quotes scientific data on that it’s just, “Oh, well, everybody is going to do what they’re going to do. So we have to do this.” It’s all based on a feeling, or based on their own experiences, instead of based on the scientific data. So, everything else said, backs up that scientific fact.
Let me give you kind of a little modified perspective on that. There actually is “scientific data” in two surveys. There are two surveys out there showing that comprehensive sex ed actually works. And that’s the two that they always rely on. Now, on the other side, there’s between 40 and 50 studies that show it going the other way.
So, when you’ve already made your mind up on what you want the funding to be, you appointed those two sex ed studies saying, “Comprehensive sex ed works.” But the 40 or 50 on the other side say exactly the opposite. When you do peer review studies, the peer review studies keep coming back saying, “No, these two are outliers they’re not indicative of what all the research shows.” But that’s still what they’ll rely on. So, even though, generally, there’s no statistics for it, they do have a couple of studies on which they can rely.
But then again, that’s like looking, and looking, and looking, until you find evidence to support your point, ignoring all other evidence to the contrary. So, they get 5 percent of the evidence to prove their point, where ninety five percent goes exactly the opposite direction.
Alright, quick break, guys. We’ll be back in a moment with our final piece of good news. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.
Hi friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we’re trying to find good content for our kids to read.
If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as well.
I wanted to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “The Courageous Leaders Collection” and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.
There’s a second collection called, “Heroes of History” in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.
This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at WallBuilders.com.
We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Final segment of good news today. Tim Barton up next. What’s our good news, Tim?
Religious Freedom Rights in Public Schools
Guys, this is coming out of Louisiana. And Louisiana Attorney General, Jeff Landry, and U.S. Rep, Mike Johnson, released a packet. It’s called the “Louisiana Students Rights Reviews”. It’s a 15 page guide that explains religious freedom rights for teachers and students in public schools.
Now, we have long worked with some of these religious freedom organizations, whether it’s First Liberty, or Liberty Counsel, or Alliance Defending Freedom, or Pacific Justice. There’s so many these groups out there that do a great job defending this. And actually, we quite often recommend that people go to First Liberty’s website and they can get a packet that shows what students, what teachers, are legally allowed to do in public schools under the Constitution.
But this was done by the Louisiana Attorney General, by a Louisiana congressman, for the students and teachers of Louisiana. And what they acknowledge is that public schools don’t need to be religious free zones. They said in this packet that, although schools have to stay neutral on religion, that schools shouldn’t keep students from practicing their faith on school property. And they go through 15 pages of the rights of what students can do, of what even teachers can do.
So, it’s really neat to see in the midst of where there’s so many battles happening in public schools of what students can say and can’t say, and religion, and can you pray over your food, or pray at graduation, or all these things. You have a state attorney general being proactive, a congressman being proactive, saying, “No, no, no, in the state of Louisiana, in our state, we’re going to make sure that students know they have the right to express their faith. That teachers know they have the right to express their faith.”
So, this is really good news coming out of Louisiana when it looks at religious liberty and education.
Democrats Out of Touch, Immigration, Sex Education, and More! Good News Friday!
Yeah, you’re right, Tim, in the past it’s always been the outside organizations putting out that information and equipping those kids. So, it’s nice to see government doing its job actually protecting rights. That’s why we have government in the first is place to protect those rights. So, great news coming out of Louisiana.
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