Fauci Will Step Down After Announcing Republicans Will Take 2022 Election – Fauci will step down as the NIAID director after announcing that the Republicans will likely take 2022 election, the Freedom From Religion Foundation fails at getting rid of chaplain program and more!

Air Date: 09/09/2022

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton

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Rick:

This is the intersection of faith and the culture. Welcome to WallBuilders Live. I’m Rick Green, America’s Constitution coach, here with David Barton, America’s premier historian, and Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor and president of WallBuilders. And of course, you, you’re a big part of this program. If you weren’t listening, what’s the point of us being here, right.

And thank you for sharing the program. By the way, a lot of you out there sharing on social media. That’s a big, very important way of getting the truth out there. As you know, there’s a concentrated effort to silence truth in this country, there’s a concentrated effort by some to label half the country as enemies of the state. Hard to believe, hard to believe that we have a president of the United States willing to do that to half of the nation! But that’s where we are, folks. It’s not a time to despair. It’s a time to shift our focus and say, you know what, these are serious times and there are solutions to these serious times. And if we will implement the solutions, if we will work the system, the system works. We’ve been given a wonderful system of freedom. God’s blessed us to be in this nation. He’s blessed us to have a constitution like we do, to have a system of freedom like we do.

And we can despair when we see it being abused or manipulated or people cheating or whatever excuse we want to use. Or we can dig in and say, not on my watch. We’re going to stop that nonsense. We’re going to restore this thing and we’re going to pass it intact to our children and grandchildren. And I know you’re one of those kind of people or you wouldn’t be listening right now to WallBuilders Live and you picked a great day to listen because it’s Good News Friday today.

Alright, David and Tim, let’s dive into some of that good news; looking forward to it today, guys. David Barton, first piece of good news. Well, Tim said he was ready before we even started the program. And I don’t know, David is the young overtaking, I don’t want to say old, young overtaking the… I’m tongue-tied. Tim, help me out here, man. Help me dig out of this hole.

Tim:

I think it’s old age and treachery beats youth and inexperience every time.

Rick:

That’s right.

Tim:

So I don’t know if it’s more old age or treachery. I have to fear right now. But there’s…

Rick:

Lot more treachery, I bet. Yeah.

Tim:

There’s plenty of it looking at me across the table right now. So I’m going to defer to my father. In fact, John Wayne, was it Big Jake, where he said, if you can’t defer to your elders, defer to your betters, as he then punched us, sort of knocked him out or something to that effect. I don’t want to have this moment here in the recording studio, so I will defer to my father, who I respect and love oh, so much.

Rick:

Well, as much of a John Wayne fan as your father is, he probably would say, and then if he hits you like that and then Sheryl came in, your mom and said, did you hit him, he would say what John Wayne said in that one movie, did you hit that guy? And John Wayne said, as hard as I could.

Tim:

You shot him, daddy.

Rick:

Alright, David, let’s jump in and some good news or else go on with the John Wayne movie.

Tim:

All of our John Wayne fans right now are enjoying it. In fact, we can just say a line and you have to come up with a movie where it comes from. With that being said, we could talk about John Wayne for a long time. That’s not where we’re going to focus on good news today, although we could. With that being said, dad, where do we go with the good news?

David:

I don’t know how to step into this, man.

Rick:

Well, the really sad bad news, guys, is there’s a lot of our audience probably going, who is John Wayne? That’s the sad part. I don’t even want to talk about that. Go ahead, David.

David:

Oh, man, how to follow up with that, bro. That’s quite an intro, the old age and treachery, I don’t know which one I need to deal with most. The headline I’m going to start with and it’s I’m interpreting the news here. So the headline is that “Anthony Fauci announces that Republicans are going to win the 2022 election”. And I think that’s great news.

Tim:

Although if Fauci said it, I’m not sure how much we trust his science.

David:

Well, he said he’s resigning as head of the institute. So that’s because they’ve been saying that if he’s there when they get elected, he’s going to face all sorts of hearings and he doesn’t want to face the hearings. So by saying he’s resigning, I think he’s admitting that Republicans are going to win the election in 2022. So I told you that’s the way I’m reading the headline. But the headline is actually that “Anthony Fauci is stepping down as NIAID director, medical advisor to Biden”. So he is now moving away from that role. And I’m just telling you, I think that means he thinks he’s going to face some congressional hearings after the election and he doesn’t want to be there for that. So I think he’s moving out because he thinks we’re going to win the election.

Tim:

Well, I think he’s one of many people that are beginning to see some of this handwriting on the wall, so to speak, where we know from the FBI raid at Mar a Lago where Republicans said, hey, Merrick Garland, make sure you hold on to all your information, your facts, we’re going to talk about this later.

I think there are several political pawns, so to speak, in the bureaucracy, administrative states in Washington, DC, that unquestionably are going to face some very interesting conversations. And unfortunately, what happens so often in DC is it’s not often much more than a conversation where they bring them in for hearings; they might try to expose their positions. But you have the Left talk show hosts who will defend these leftist crazy individuals, and then you have the conservative talk show host who would talk about how bad and evil it is. But we don’t often see the change. So I’m sure how much good we will get out of some of these hearings.

Nonetheless, dad, I do think you’re right; the fact he’s acknowledging needs to resign now is not because he thinks he doesn’t have more to offer because I think he’s never felt more powerful and on top of his game. However, he does have a pretty nice paycheck coming where he has the largest pension package ever from any federal employee ever, even the guy who literally lied to Americans for several years in a row. That is very obvious on the record for the last couple of years during the COVID pandemic.

But I do think to your point that he is signaling that he knows things are going to change on some level in the political makeup of DC, not necessarily the outcome or consequence, but at least the political party that is in power.

Rick:

But, Tim, shouldn’t he get the highest pension ever? I mean, he did such a wonderful job handling the AIDS crisis and then handling COVID. I mean, it was just… Okay, I’m being sarcastic.

Tim:

If we just stay with COVID, right, we would never have known that, first of all, masks didn’t work and then six weeks later they totally worked. We never would have imagined that a vaccine that did not actually come from using the disease, which is part of how the vaccine happens. But no, like these mRNA things that actually if you take it, you cannot get COVID, well, then you can get COVID, but you won’t die, but you can get COVID and die…

Rick:

But you won’t spread it, but then you will spread it.

Tim:

Right. We would not have known all of these brilliant insights had it not been for Dr. Fauci. And actually, it’s important that he was there, because this narrative changed every two or three weeks, and if he wasn’t there, we wouldn’t have known it changed. So he probably should be paid that.

David:

Well, I’ve got to say, the greatest medical revelation that I learned at all that was I had no idea that viruses carry tape measures with them. And as long as it’s over six feet, they won’t infect somebody else.

Rick:

And as long as you’re sitting down, they can’t get you. If you’re sitting down, it can’t get you. If you go into a restaurant, you know, when you’re standing up, you’re in trouble. But if you sit down, you suddenly, that’s the right altitude, it won’t find you there.

Tim:

Well, from the mask that you could smell people’s perfume and cologne. But the mask that fragrance could go through, the virus that was smaller than the fragrance could not make it. It’s a miracle of science. And actually, I think on some level people would be happy to pay him that amount just to get rid of him. Nonetheless, man…

David:

I have to say, I’ve had fun collecting articles that have come out in the last few months that come out from the same National Institute of Health. For example, they say now that as it turns out, the distance between people is not a factor at all in lessening the disease or increasing it. How close you are, how far you are, that seems to have no effect on the virus at all. Really? That was logic a long time ago.

Tim, as you said, if you can smell the perfume, that’s a whole lot bigger than a virus. And by the way, we knew long ago that mask, when you look at the micron size of the virus versus the micron holes in the mask, the analogy was that it’s like trying to stop a swarm of mosquitoes with the barbed wire fence. It’s just not going to happen.

We’re getting all those reports now and they’re not getting publicized. It’s interesting that CNN who seem to be the great evangelist for all the stuff Fauci and COVID is gone completely silent on all the new studies that have come out from National Institutes of Health that are repudiating all their previous positions.

So, all that to say, Fauci got us off on this. But I do think that there’s a political change coming and I think that the fact that he’s starting to run for cover in some degree and get himself in a position where he may not get called at the same level, I think that’s a pretty positive indication for what may happen in the fall.

Rick:

Yeah. And the timing, right, didn’t he say December, he’s not going to leave now; he’s going to wait until it’s right before Republicans taking over in January. But, of course, and I don’t know much about how these investigations work on Capitol Hill. But I’m assuming him leaving doesn’t at all take away Congress’s power to subpoena him. I mean, maybe it’s easier if somebody is a federal employee, but they’re certainly not out of reach because they’re no longer a federal employee.

So, from what I’m hearing, Jim Jordan and those guys are still going to go after him. Rand Paul is definitely, definitely going to continue to investigate. But I agree with you, it’s a very, very good sign that he is finally going to be off the official scene. Alright, Tim, how about a good piece of good news before we go to break?

Tim:

Well, I have a good piece of good news before we go.

Rick:

How many times can Rick say good in a sentence? It’s a new test today. Good! Make it good, Tim.

Tim:

That’s great. So, this headline is “The Freedom from Religion Foundation Attempts to End Chaplain Program in Epic Fail as City Officials and Clergy Unite”. Well, the articles from Mansfield, but it’s in Ohio. It’s response to front lines, Ohio. A city law director, John Spoon came out and said, we’re not removing our chaplains. The essence of the case is there was a police chief who had a chaplaincy program in the police department and it was volunteer. It was local ministers who would come and volunteer and they’d be the chaplain and they would pray over officers or they would try to be on the scene of incidents and help where they could.

And the Freedom of Religion Foundation, as they do so often just sends blanket letters all over the place. If somebody gets word of the Freedom from Religion Foundation that some city agency might have a religious person apart or affiliated with their organization, or in this case, a police department, the Freedom from Religion Foundation will send them a note or letter saying you can’t have a chaplain. That’s a violation of blah, blah, blah, whatever, which we know it is not that it’s not an unconstitutional position.

But what is so awesome about this is that you have the city law director, John Spohn, who wrote that it’s our opinion that our city’s voluntary use of an available designated chaplain is lawful, and therefore it is our intent to continue with voluntary use of our designated chaplain. At the present time, we see no need to respond to the Freedom from Religion Foundation spurious and unfounded allegation.

Well, it turns out so many leaders in the city come out and they actually speak out against a Freedom from Religion Foundation. And one of the many reasons this is good news is not only are there people standing up, not only their people having courage and not backing down, recognizing that these individuals have the freedom of speech, the free expression of religion, etc.

What is also super encouraging about this is that the Freedom from Religion Foundation used to be a bully that so many people didn’t recognize they could stand up to and tell them, no, I’m not going to acquiesce to your letter that’s demanding me to in something that is Constitutionally permissible for us to do, and not only constitutionally permissible, but is actually morally and ethically correct for me to do as well.

And it’s great to see that in this case, you have city leaders who are recognizing some of their religious freedoms that they have in the nation, which probably not insignificant from the US Supreme Court decisions even this summer with the coach Joe Kennedy case with recognizing the right of religious schools to receive some of the same funding that non-religious schools receive when it comes to some of the government funding programs.

But recognizing some of the huge victories that were made this summer for religious freedom, it’s encouraged a lot of people in the nation to see the state of religious freedom that is advancing more than we’ve seen literally in decades. It’s really encouraging on lots of levels. So I’m always happy when somebody stands up and tells a Freedom from Religion Foundation, no, you’re being ridiculous; we’re not going to stop.

Again, because as we mentioned before, so often we would see school districts or mayors or police chiefs who would say, hey, we don’t want any trouble, we don’t want to stir up the waters. We’re just going to say, okay, and back down. In this case, not only do they stand up to them, the entire city unites around this. So many leaders from the city come out and speak out against this. This is so encouraging to see city leaders getting backbone, standing up for what is morally, ethically, biblically and even constitutionally correct. This is great news.

Rick:

You had me at people stood up against Freedom from Religion Foundation and then of course, you had me at good or great or whichever one it was. It was great this time. That’s right. So lots more great news. We’re going to change the name to “Great News Friday” when we come back from the break. So stay with us, folks, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live. I know you love the good news, folks. I love it. You love it. We need to share it with our friends and family. So grab the link today and send it to some folks because they need to pick me up and they need to know that we’re winning all over the place when we get engaged. Stay with us, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

We’re back on WallBuilders Live, Good news Friday today or I’m sorry, Great News Friday today. And David Barton has our next piece of great news. I’m not going to say good the rest of today. It’s great from now on. David, go for it, man.

David:

Good for you. No response? Nothing. Okay? I’m trying to bait you, it didn’t work. Okay. I’ve got some very befuddling good news here. And, I mean, it literally is befuddling. It’s inexplicable, but it’s good news. And it is that in a federal lawsuit in Michigan that involves the Michigan secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, she has lost a federal lawsuit and the federal judge has ordered her that she is to remove a total of 25,975 names of dead people from the voter’s rolls.

So you’re taking out essentially 26,000 dead people off the voter rolls. Would you please explain to me why she wants to defend keeping 26,000 dead people on the voter rolls? And she went to court to keep from taking dead people off the voter rolls. And by the way, tried this for stats of the 26,000, roughly 4,000 had been dead for at least 20 years, roughly 18,000 had been dead for a decade, and 23,663 had been dead for at least five years. Why would you go to court to keep the names of dead people on the voter’s rolls? Fortunately, the Judge said you can’t do that.

But this is one of the most befuddling cases I’ve ever seen with the Secretary of State. Why would you keep dead names on the voter rolls unless you intend to cheat, unless you need names there that you can have fake votes come in for somebody with that name because they’re on the voter roll. Who’s going to check a ballot against the name on the voter roll if it’s on the voter roll, because you don’t check that to say are the dead or not? This is just again, it’s great news, take the dead people off the voter rolls so you can’t have the fraud.

But as Secretary of State of a major state fighting to keep dead people on a voter’s roll, that’s just unbelievable to me.

Tim:

Inconceivable!

David:

There you go. I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

Rick:

I have to say, it is not so great news to know that, because I typically will say, doesn’t everybody want good, fair elections where we know the winner wins, where we know we got an accurate count? Shouldn’t both sides want voter ID and verification and transparency and all that? But the not so great news is no, not everybody wants those things because they want to be able to manipulate the process and they need those tools like dead people on the voter rolls, no voter ID, send absentee ballots to everybody. All of those are basically easy to cheat laws that they want to keep in place. So, great news that they were defeated, though. And what state was that?

David:

Michigan.

Rick:

Michigan. Alright. Well, that was one of the ones where we had a lot of problems. So you just…

Tim:

I actually think it was about 27,000 people on that roll that had a plot to kidnap the governor. And fortunately, the FBI stepped in and made sure all those dead people could not kidnap the governor. So, that’s good news.

Rick:

And about 27,000 FBI agents that are part of the plot with the 26,000 dead people.

David:

Man, this could go on for a long time.

Rick:

I think everybody today, if they’re regular listeners of WallBuilders, they’re probably wondering, like, did David and Tim and Rick have a really crazy week with no sleep? Have they been traveling like crazy, they’re really weird today? Go ahead, Tim.

Tim:

Well, here’s the thing. All we did was reference John Wayne like the Princess Bride.

Rick:

And then it was over.

Tim:

I mean, I’m just saying, right, we’re trying to make it not just good, but great news. But if people are being bothered by this, we will acquiesce, we’ll say, as you wish, and we will try to normalize what we do. With that being said, this is coming…

Rick:

I feel there’s a competition going for whether we can quote John Wayne or Princess Bride the most today. So this is really getting out of hand. Okay. Go ahead, Tim.

Tim:

Easy pilgrim. Okay. So this is coming from Louisville. And it says “Louisville violates First Amendment by requiring photographer to promote views about marriage contrary to her faith”. And actually, the article highlights, this case is very similar to one that’s going before the US Supreme Court this coming year. It’s 303 Creative versus Elenis and it’s from Colorado. There’s a graphic art designer, her name is Lori Smith. And she was told that she has to promote and do certain things on her website that she has to engage in certain people’s weddings or behavior or whatever kind of stuff they’re doing, whether it be mail outs, etc., that she has to design and create stuff for them. And she said, there are certain things I don’t want to promote in my faith.

Anyway, that’s the case going to the U.S. Supreme Court. The reason I bring that up is because this case in Louisville, the photographer in Louisville is Chelsea Nelson and Alliance Defending Freedom is representing Chelsea Nelson. And the article highlights that there’s a very similar parallel between the 303 Creative case and Chelsea Nelson. But in this situation, the good news is a federal court came in and said, hey, you can’t force somebody to actually violate their freedom of religion or their freedom of speech. When you are compelling speech, when they were saying that she actually had to not only photograph but write specific blog posts promoting certain things that were what she believed a violation of her faith with what biblical standards there might be, so whether it’d be something in the LGBTQ+ community that she is told that you have the photograph there and write this really nice, sweet blog post about it, but it gets even crazier is as this was going on in Louisville, she was not allowed to identify on her website her own Christian views, which would then clarify her position that she has a biblical position when it comes to human sexuality and marriage, etc..

And so she wasn’t allowed to express her own views on her website. She was compelled to do things against her beliefs, promoting a human sexuality position that she does not support, thinks is morally wrong based on the Bible. All that to say: the good news is a federal court came out and said, yeah, you’re not allowed to do that. Now this is probably going to be appealed knowing Louisville and kind of the secular position they take.

However, probably this won’t be heard before the 303 Creative decision is heard at the US Supreme Court next summer. But this is something that we are very hopeful about, although there is reason to be very prayerful, even though we want to be optimistic about this. If you look at some of the cases that have come out, whether it be the Coach Kennedy case or even the Jack Phillips case where the Supreme Court sent that back to Colorado, he’s a Christian baker in Colorado.

But in that case, with Jack Phillips, the Colorado government administration actually said, hey, because this guy is a Christian, we’re not letting him get away with this. Well, that’s actually in their emails. They cited that they were against him because he was a Christian. And that’s why the Supreme Court said this is clearly a violation based on his religious views, you can’t do that.

Well, some people now on the left have gotten a little more creative or maybe a little smarter in this propaganda attack. And so they’ve said, well, we won’t identify. It’s because specifically of their Christian views we’re doing this, we’ll just say it’s because they’re being hateful and intolerant and bigoted, etc. So there is some people that think this might not be as successful as some of the religious liberty cases that happened this summer.

However, based on some of the precedent, there is reason that we could be hopeful about this, that we might get another good decision, certainly something that should be bathed in prayer. But for the time being, the good news is for Chelsea Nelson from Louisville is that she was told that she can have her own religious beliefs on her website and that she’s not going to be forced and compelled to do things that violate her religious conscience. That is great news.

David:

I’ve got actually two court decisions very closely related, they go to Biden mandates that he is issued in the whole nation. Once the Supreme Court overturned the abortion issue, or at least the federal aspect of that, overturning Roe v. Wade and then it goes back to the states, the Biden administration said, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we give a lot of money to hospitals through Health and Human Services. And so here’s the deal. If you’re a hospital that takes any federal funds, you’re going to keep performing abortions. And we don’t care if you’re in a prolife state like Texas or wherever, you’ve got to keep performing abortions and so people can go there and get abortions in your state. And we go whoa, whoa, whoa, the Supreme Court just said states can stop that. He said, yeah, but we’re going to do it through the hospitals.

Well, we just had a federal court strike that down and say, no, that mandate will not stand. You cannot mandate abortion nationwide by tracking it through hospitals and saying it’s tied to federal funds. In a similar way, the Biden administration stepped in and said, you know, we are also going to tell all medical professionals that you have to perform surgeries like transitioning surgeries on young people, the things that go with transition from one gender to another, even if you disagree with that, you’re going to perform that.

So they gave no conscience exemption and they said, we don’t care what your religious belief is, you’re going to do these surgeries. And a federal appeals court, the Fifth Circuit, has stepped in and said, no, they’re not going to do that. They do not have to violate their religious conscience just because you have a different agenda. And by the way, please don’t mistake that what is happening with the Biden administration is an attack on religion. It is one religion fighting another religion. It is the religion of secular progressivism, fighting traditional biblical values. Their religion requires that you have to have blood sacrifices of unborn children all across the nation. I mean, they are committed to this just like a religion. They’re more fervent about that religion than most Christians are about their Christian faith.

But this is a conflict between worldviews. And in this case, the courts have stepped in federally and said no, Biden administration, you can’t force everybody to do abortions and you can’t force everyone to participate in gender transition surgeries of young people. So, that’s really good news that the courts are at least trying to limit this secular, progressive religion.

Rick:

More great news, actually. So as we close out today, guys, since we referred to the Duke so much, going to give read a little of his words on a foundational principle known as a republic. This is when he was playing Davy Crockett in the Alamo from 1960, of course, referring to the Republic of Texas. But here’s what he said.

John Wayne:

“Republic, I like the sound of the word; means people can live free, talk free, go or come by our cell, be drunk or sober, however they choose. Some words give you a feeling. Republic is one of those words that makes me tight in the throat, same tightness a man gets when his baby takes his first step for. His first baby shaves makes his first sound like a man. Some words can give you a feeling that make your heart warm. Republic is one of those words.

Rick:

That was John Wayne from the Alamo 1960 movie, talking about a republic. Folks, that’s what we’re fighting for, is a republic; that’s what we’re fighting for, is for individuals to be able to make their decisions, not some government bureaucrat, whether they’re a health official or a governor or whoever else it might be. There’re so many things that should have awakened us over the last two years to realize that freedom is precious, that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance and that you and I have a responsibility to preserve it, protect it, and pass it on to the next generation.

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