Florida House Passes Bill Requiring “€˜In God We Trust”€™ In Schools: We call it Good News Friday because it’s a chance for David and Tim to share some good news from across the nation and around the world.  In this episode, we talk about how the Florida House passes a bill requiring “€˜In God We Trust”€™ to be prominently posted in all public schools. A shocking bill proposed by a Democrat! How Americans blame the government more than guns for Florida massacre. A national poll showing how many Americans with kids in school are pro-Second Amendment. And more!

Air Date: 03/02/2018

Guest: Rep Mel Ponder

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton

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Faith And The Culture

Rick:

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture.  You”€™ve found WallBuilders Live! Where we talk about today”€™s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture. We”€™re always doing that from a Biblical, historical, and Constitutional perspective.

That conversation is today with David Barton, he’s America’s premier historian and our founder here at WallBuilders. Also, Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor and the president of WallBuilders. My name is Rick Green, I’m a former Texas state legislator.

You can find out more about us at WallBuildersLive.com where you can also get archives of the program. In fact, you may want some more just like today because it’s Friday and that’s when we do Good News Friday. We bring you good news from around the country and around the world sometimes. And if you go back on the website you can get into the archives and get some more good news from those previous Friday programs.

Also check out WallBuilders.com. That’s or other website and that’s got a wealth of information and tools that will equip and inspire your family. Just a great place to get a good education on the foundations of America.

David, Tim, looking forward to some good news today. I think, let’s see, Tim, you starting us with some good news?

In God We Trust

Tim:

Yeah this is out of Florida. I actually have a couple of articles highlighting what’s going on in Florida. The first headline says, “€œFlorida Passes Bill Requiring In God We Trust to be Prominently Posted in all Public Schools”€. Now first of all, that’s great news that kids are going to once again see In God We Trust. We talk about that God consciousness, God awareness. Certainly going to have an impact on the morality.

And especially with what we’ve seen very recently in Florida with the school shooting down there – all that’s unfolded because of it, the CNN town hall, these kids that are, seems like, every single night on the news somewhere. So, it’s something that Florida has been working on trying to get done and passed for a little bit.

But actually, it’s something that when we back up to the legislators conference we did in November, this was a piece of legislation that one of our guys from Arkansas had done in Arkansas and brought and shared with other legislators. And so I think we mentioned a week or two ago on Good News Friday there’s now four states that are moving this direction to make In God We Trust something that”€™s going to be displayed in public schools. Part of the catch is there’s not going to be government funding for it, so you have to raise the funds. And so private groups can give to it to make sure that schools can have In God We Trust posted. But it’s something cool we saw the legislators conference that this Rep Jim Dodson from Arkansas shared this piece of legislation with the other legislators, they took it to their states, started doing things.

Well, Florida has kind of followed that idea. And now Florida has said that, “€œWe want to make sure in all of our public schools that we put In God We Trust.”€ That’s going to be prominently displayed in schools. So, especially in the midst of, it seems like, education that is certainly not promoting God, but especially with kids that seem to have forgotten there is a God. This is a really cool thing where kids are once again going to have this kind of God awareness put in front of them remembering our national motto, In God We Trust.

Proposed by a Democrat

David:

And add to that that the Florida bill would actually make it mandatory. Whereas the other states make it kind of up to private enterprise to supply it or somebody else. The Florida bill actually makes it mandatory to display in school.

Tim:

And let me throw out a piece, to me, that’s really cool news – this piece of legislation in Florida was proposed by a Democrat. Which is, to me, rather amazing considering the state of where most Democrats identify where they’re very much anti God in any kind of education, where they’re very secular, where they don’t think we should promote religion, this firm stance of separation of church and state.

But this is something that’s bipartisan. In fact, in Florida, it passed with a 97 to 10 vote. So, this was something that wasn’t unanimous, but it was pretty stinkin”€™ close to unanimous.

So, again, just really cool what they did in Florida to help get the national motto In God We Trust in front of the students in their classroom.

Rick:

So, let me ask you guys from a devil’s advocate perspective – obviously, I agree totally this should be in the schools, but a lot of people would say, “€œWell, why does it even matter? What’s the point? It’s already on the money, why do they need it hanging in the schools? And what’s the big deal about saying In God We Trust?”€ Why is a recognition of God– I think, what was the phrase you used, Tim, a God awareness, why is that so important to the culture?

Tim:

Yeah, a God consciousness.

Rick:

God consciousness. Yeah.

One Thing the Founding Fathers Worked Really Hard At

Tim:

Yeah, whether we call it a God awareness, a God consciousness, one of the things the Founding Fathers worked really hard to do was instilling this religious ideal in kids. Which is why the Bible was the number one textbook in public schools for generations, right. For hundreds of years, go back to the pilgrims, the Bible was the number one textbook kids learn to read with. It’s not just because everybody who was in education was a sold out believing Christian and wanted everybody to believe in Jesus.

Because there are some founding fathers we can point to that weren’t believers in Jesus. But– now that’s a very small number of those founding fathers who weren’t believers in Jesus. But even the ones who weren’t believers in Jesus, it was a pretty much unanimous decision and with maybe your Thomas Paine kind of exception, alright. There’s one or two guys who aren’t, but the vast majority of founding fathers promoted religion, promoted the Bible, because of the system of morality.

And the idea is when you know there’s something beyond you, beyond yourself, beyond your life, then you don’t live your life based on how you feel, and what you want, and your desires, and your preference. Which is largely what we teach in schools today, right, where truth becomes subjective. Where it”€™s how you feeling, and what does this mean to you, and how do you think and what– Well, no that’s not how reality works. And so what this God consciousness does is help us realize there’s something beyond us.

Which even back to the Declaration where the founding fathers pointed out there is a Divine Creator, He gave us rights, government exists to protect those rights. Well, if there is no Divine Creator that gave us rights, then the biggest thing in your life is government. And the founding fathers wanted to make sure that wasn’t what we did in America. There is a God who gave us rights.

It Has Already Been Determined

Tim:

But it”€™s that same idea in school of the reason we do the right thing – it”€™s a God consciousness, there”€™s something bigger than us, something beyond us. And that thing has told us, right, in this case God has revealed to us what right and wrong is, what morality is. And so we don’t get to determine if stealing is right and wrong – that’s already been determined. But this God consciousness helps us come to the place we can accept and embrace those morals, those truths, and those realities.

David:

Rick, let me add to that. Here’s the Bible basis for what the founding fathers did. In Romans 1:28 the Bible says, “€œBecause they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God.”€ In other words, they”€™re not being God conscious, they didn’t like to think about God, they weren’t conscious of God. It says because of that they were given over to a depraved mind to do that which they shouldn’t do – like shoot other students or whatever you want to say.

So, the belief was that if you’re not God conscious, what happens is you lose that, quite frankly, what we used to call the fear of God. And by the way, that has to get back into America. If there is not a fear of God and, yes, God is a God of love, but guess what? He’s also got a wrath and you will stand before Him you will answer to Him. And if you don’t have a consciousness that you’re going to answer to God for what you do, then there is no internal restraint on your behavior.

Other than, as Tim said, what you think truth is, what you think your reality is, what you think your rights and wrongs are. When you have an outside objective standard like God who says things like, “€œDon’t murder”€ and you recognize, “€œYou know what, I’m going to have to answer to Him, and I’m going to stand before Him, and that’s not going to be good at all if I’m not doing what He wants me to do behavior wise.”€ That’s what changes your behavior.

Being God Conscious Changes Your Behavior

David:

And it’s interesting that in the– we have so many original documents back in the founding era that are related to judicial issues. Whether they be related to theft or robbery, whether they be related to arson or murder. Very often it starts out with saying, “€œJohn Smith, not having the fear of God before his eyes, did kill so and so.”€ And it’s this thing if they weren’t God conscious, if they had been God conscious they would have behaved differently. So, being God conscious the founders were very, very, cognizant that changes your behavior and that’s why they promoted the knowledge of God across America.

Rick:

It has an impact on the entire culture. Certainly that one kid sitting in the classroom see that and that being reinforced. But then multiply that out by millions to every kid in the classrooms across the country. It’s a big deal and so cool that Florida is doing this.

We”€™re going to take a quick break. We’ll be right back. In fact, when we come back we’ve got the state rep that was one of the cosponsors on the bill. He”€™s going to tell us a little bit about how that passed in Florida and the timing of that as well. Stay with us. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Biographical Sketches

Hi friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we”€™re trying to find good content for our kids to read.

If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well,, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as Well,.

I wanted to let   about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “€œThe Courageous Leaders Collection“€ and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.

There’s a second collection called, “€œHeroes of History“€ in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.

This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at WallBuilders.com.

Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton with another moment from American history. As the American War for Independence began, the president of Yale was the Reverend Naphtali Daggett. When New Haven, the home of Yale, came under attack about a hundred citizens rushed out to meet the British.

The Reverend Daggett galloped by them on horseback, his clearable robes flowing behind him in the wind. He took up a solitary position atop a hill. The 2,500 British soon put the townsfolk to flight but the Reverend Daggett continued to stand alone firing down on the advancing troops.

A British officer confronted him, “€œWhat are you doing there you old fool? If I let you go, will you ever fire again on the troops of his majesty?”€ Nothing more likely was the preacher’s reply. America’s early pastors personally confronted danger and courageously led their communities.

For more information on Pastor Daggett and other colonial Patriots, go to WallBuilders.com.

Rick:

Welcome back. Thanks for staying with us here on WallBuilders Live. Our guest today – State Representative from Florida, Mel Ponder, a representative, thanks for your time today.

Rep Mel Ponder:

Hey Rick, I’m honored to be with you. Thank you for everything you all do to just bless and enrich our country with great Christian values. We appreciate everything you do.

Rick:

Well, thanks for being willing to serve. And it looks like a good piece of legislation coming through on putting the national motto in schools. Some have objected to this in the past, but of course in the wake of the shooting there at the school in Florida it looks like Democrats and Republicans both in the legislature are saying, “€œHey, it might be a good idea to let– remind people there is a God we’re responsible to Him.

Representative Mel Ponder on the Florida Bill

Rep Mel Ponder:

Absolutely. And foundationally, Representative Kimberly Daniels who was the prime sponsor, I came along as our prime cosponsor for her on the bill. Her heart was pure. She said, “€œHey, listen, our national motto is In God We Trust. We put it on our currency, put it throughout our country, put in our emblems and seals and mottos, and for the state of Florida also, In God We Trust is our state motto.”€

And she said, “€œHow better–“€ And this was before the shooting, so it’s, to me, how God is such a master chess player. That He knew then what we would walk through as a state today. And she said, “€œLet’s put this as a beacon of light within our schools.”€ Also as a foundational element to our state, to our nation. That puts honor where honor is due – on God who played such a significant role in the foundation of our nation as a whole.

But for– we don’t tell the districts how to do it, but just makes it mandatory that they put it up somewhere where it’s easily seen in a school. And so I applaud her to bringing this forward. It is an honor for me to be a prime cosponsor, but it’s foundational and it’s something we truly need.

Rick:

Yeah, I didn’t realize it had been file before then – even more impressive. I saw the quote from her– and of course, she’s a Democrat you’re a Republican.

Rep Mel Ponder:

Yep.

Rick:

So, very cool way of you guys coming together. And she said, “€œGod isn’t a Republican, He’s not a Democrat, He’s not black, He’s not white, He is the light in our schools and the light in them like never before.”€ And they do.

Rep Mel Ponder:

There’s no doubt. And for me personally, how I’ve witnessed us as a body of believers and people that pursue the Bible, and God’s Word, and His presence in our lives is early on in our nation, as the church, as the body of Christ, it’s almost like the church played a key role in setting the guidelines for our country. And over time we went from setting the guidelines, it’s almost like we get kind of nudged out to the sidelines, we’re still the team, that’s okay, and then– But today I feel like the church, some of us in some degree, are kind of outside in the ticket lines trying to get in.

It Only Takes One Generation to Forget

Rep Mel Ponder:

And so I believe for us as a nation to be reminded of just a foundational motto of In God We Trust. It says so much, it”€™s part of the DNA of our country, it’s foundational. And as you and I both know, it doesn’t take but one generation to forget what the prior generation did – especially for God and what He’s doing and what we stand for in our nation. So, for me I thought it was only foundational that we take this for a point in time to put it back in our schools, to make a statement, to honor our motto, but also honor foundationally where we come from as a country.

Rick:

Representative, how can our listeners pray for you guys? I know right now in the legislature you”€™ve got pressure on you from every direction. And especially after the shooting, a lot of people– our human nature, but we respond with emotion.

Rep Mel Ponder:

Yeah.

Rick:

So, a lot of people are wanting you all to rush out there and do a lot of things. We want to pray for you to have discernment, obviously, and all of those things. But what, specifically, would you like for our folks to be lifting you up for?

Rep Mel Ponder:

Rick, I really appreciate you saying that. We as a state, we need prayer, we need healing.  There’s– many in the state are hurting. I have questions looking for answers. Some from a policy perspective. Right now, even right now as we’re talking, our Appropriations Committee is voting on a Safe Schools Bill. We just need the mind of Christ.

A lot of things we can do out of our own wisdom, experience ,and I celebrate that. But we need the presence of God really to help us to heal, to congeal together, and to be become as united as we can be. And just for God’s will to be done in and through this legislative process.

Rick:

Well, man, we”€™ll be lifting you guys up. I know it’s a crazy schedule for you right now, so we appreciate the time that you gave us today to be on the air. We love this bill and we’d love to see this happen all across the country and just remind us of where our strength is in our nation. That we truly do trust in God. So, God bless you, man. Ya”€™ll keep up the great work.

Rep Mel Ponder:

Thanks, Rick, appreciate your time, buddy. Honored be on with you.

Rick:

Stay with us, folks. We’ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.

Pastors Only Briefing Trip

Tim:

Hi, this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders and I want to encourage all the pastors out there with a unique opportunity that we’re presenting it WallBuilders. We’re doing a special tour just for pastors that you can come and learn more about the spiritual heritage of our nation. Not just seeing the sights but understanding the significance of what they are and what they represent.

We get to go to the Capitol at night.  And we get to see the spiritual heritage of our Founding Fathers, of who we are as a nation, where we came from. We bring in congressman that will tell you about current legislation, about our religious liberties  and freedom, and what’s going on in Washington, D.C.

If you’re a pastor or if you want to recommend your pastor for this trip, you can go to our website at www.WallBuilders.com. And there’s a link that’s for scheduling.  If you click on that link there’s a section for pastor”€™s briefing. There’s more information about the dates, when it’s going, and how it’s going to happen. If you want to know more about our nation, our religious liberties, our freedom, our spiritual heritage, this is a trip you want to be a part of.

Rick:

We”€™re back on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us and thanks to Representative Mel Ponder for joining us from Florida from the legislature there.

Back with David and Tim. Guys, just a great follow up. It’s so cool that they had started this even before the shooting took place in Florida and that the vast majority, I think, David, you gave the numbers at the beginning of the percentage that voted for this.

So, they obviously understand the importance of having this in the schools. So, maybe some other states will do the same thing.

We Would Love to See This Grow

Tim:

Yeah, we would love to see this continue to grow. And I think there’s a lot of national appeal for it. The numbers were 97 to 10 when this thing passed, so overwhelming support. And super cool to hear, as you were reading what this lady said about, “€œWe want light in schools in the midst of darkness and Jesus is the ultimate light.”€ Just so cool this perspective especially coming from a party that largely does not embrace that perspective.

But this now in Florida is a bipartisan deal and absolutely we would love to see it take off in more states as we’re already seeing some states promote this. But this would be a great thing for listeners. Contact your state legislators – say, “€œHey, we want to get our national motto up in front of our students.”€ This is something that right now is absolutely legal. Supreme Court, lower courts, have identified that this is a legal thing to do to display the national motto.

But certainly something that, every listener, you ought to contact your state rep, the people in local office even, hey, let’s get this at city hall, let’s get this wherever we can to, again, help raise that God consciousness and God awareness.

Rick:

And next week we’re going to have Tim Wildmon with us. So, those guys at AFA they’ve been pushing for In God We Trust on school campuses for years as a volunteer type thing where citizens could buy the little posters and put them out there. I did that as a legislator, but this is a whole other level to actually say, “€œHey, this is going to be part of our displays on our school campuses and as a state we’re saying we want this kind of consciousness permeating throughout the education system.”€

Alright, David, I think you”€™re next, buddy, what’s our next piece of good news?

David:

Well, we’re going to stay in Florida for a little bit. We’ve covered a lot in Florida, but we’re going to talk some about the shooting which is not the good news, but it is interesting to see the way the media has handled the shooting. CNN has clearly dominated the tone of the media and the news.

Hadn”€™t Heard of Sutherland Springs

David:

I was talking to a guy, doing an interview with the guy, here the other day and he actually came to North Texas, and was talking to students in North Texas, and they had this forum over North Texas– University of North Texas in Dallas. And so in doing that all the kids knew about the Florida shooting he said, “€œWell, you’re in Texas you guys know about the Sutherlands Spring shooting.”€ They what they’d never even heard of it. So, he was floored as he described it to them they had not heard of the church shooting or that more were killed there than were killed in Florida.

And he said, “€œSee, that’s exactly it. You”€™re getting the CNN kind of forums that are going on in the town halls, but you’re not getting what’s actually happening in the news.”€

Tim:

By the way, so the one in Texas, is this guy is murdering people in the church. You have an NRA member, I think maybe even an instructor–

Rick:

Instructor, that”€™s right.

Tim:

–and he uses one of these weapons that people are wanting the ban to stop the bad guy. And so certainly the reason I would think CNN would not promote this is it doesn’t fit the narrative of bad guys are the only ones who have these dangerous weapons and so if we ban them you stop bad guys. No, no, no – the good guys use these guns to stop bad guys too so. So, this isn’t a bad guy or the only one to have guns kind of problem. But that is certainly the picture that CNN paints.

Rick:

I”€™ve got to throw in here, Tim. So, they AR15 that the good guy used to– Steven Williford is the guy”€™s name, the hero, we should mention him and very humble – loves the Lord. He talked about how the Lord protected him to be able to do that and he was so glad he had the training to be able to do it.

The Good Guy Should Not Have Had a Gun?

Rick:

But anyway, do you guys remember, did you all happen to see what former Vice President Joe Biden’s response to that was?

David:

No.

Rick:

He actually said this guy should not have had that gun – the good guy should not have been allowed to have had that gun.

Tim:

Wow.

Rick:

Now, let’s think about that for a second. How how sold out do you have to be to this emotional, irrational, illogical, get rid of, ban all the “€œassault rifles”€, agenda to say, “€œI’d rather the bad guy be able to go on shooting and killing people than the good guy have the weapon that was necessary at the time to take this guy out.”€ It”€™s just–

Tim:

Illogical.

Rick:

Yeah, illogical. Sorry, had to throw that out there. David, go ahead, bro.

David:

Well, it is illogical and that’s the narrative that’s on the news since the narratives like that have dominated the news. As this guy found out on college campuses. He’s doing these forums across the United States on college campuses and he’s a really well-known guy among college kids, so they’re very familiar with him. And so you get this CNN kind of narrative. Well, guess what? Now we’re doing national polling to see what people think about what we should do with the killings in Florida, how to solve that.

Poll – Americans Who Have Children in School

David:

I’ve got a poll here that’s talking about Americans who have children in school – not just Americans. So, I don’t have kids in school anymore so you can imagine what parents with kids in school are going to say the solution to this is. Because you’ve been watching CNN and you see all this stuff about how bad guns are. And so here this poll comes out. So, what do you think it is – parents with kids in school, how many of those parents want to see guns banned? How many want to see gun control?

Rick:

Now you’re saying this poll was done after–

David:

It was done after.

Rick:

–last couple of weeks of all this CNN coverage talking about it’s all the guns fault. They’ve been watching the kids be on TV saying, “€œGet rid of the guns. When are you going to act? Don’t take money from the NRA .”€ All the emotional stuff that’s been happening for the last two weeks  – even after all that, that’s when this poll happened.

David:

That’s when the poll happened. And this is among people who have been very closely following the news on this. So, these are the people who have really had their eyes filled with this.

Rick:

I’m going to guess 60-40 want to get rid of the guns.

David:

23 percent want more gun control laws. That’s it – 23 percent.

Rick:

Okay, can we back up and erase my answer and let me try that? No, I”€™m just kidding– So, really? Only 23–I would have thought that before all of this coverage.

The Real Call

Tim:

But, guys, one of the things that we’ve heard a lot of too is the call for having armed security officers, more guards, more trained teachers, whatever the case is. I’m hearing more calls for more guns in school.

Rick:

Yeah.

Tim:

As opposed to saying, “€œGet rid of all guns.”€ Certainly there is that call out there, in fact, Dick’s Sporting Goods just came out and said they will no longer sell the AR platform. Which, actually, Dick’s Sporting Goods was already not selling the AR platform, but apparently Dick’s Sporting Goods also owns Field and Stream which is an outdoor hunting company.

David:

Oh wow.

Tim:

And they said, “€œWell, so in our Field and Stream we will no longer sell these assault rifles.”€

Rick:

Can you guys hold on? I need to go cancel my membership, my subscription, to Field and Stream real quick. Okay. Sorry, go ahead.

Tim:

Here’s what’s ridiculous. Like even this idea of the assault rifle. “€œAssault”€ is an action verb, right? So, I can assault you with my deer rifle and then it becomes an assault rifle. So, even the notion AR is the Armalite rifle – it doesn’t stand for automatic rifle, or semi-automatic rifle, or assault rifle.

It was a specific brand that created this platform the Armalite rifle. But oh my gosh, we’re just going crazy with this. Where now companies are saying, “€œWell, we won’t sell this gun because of how many people its killed.”€ Kitchen knives kill more people–

Rick:

That”€™s right.

What Kills the Most Every Year

Tim:

–than the AR15 does. What are we talking about?

Rick:

Baseball bats. Doesn’t Dick”€™s Sporting Goods–

Tim:

Hammers.

Rick:

–sell lots of–

David:

Yeah.

Rick:

–baseball bats.

Tim:

Knees, elbows, fists, feet. According to the FBI, all of those kill more every year than one of these “€œassault rifles”€. Nonetheless, you see people taking these extreme positions. However, based on, dad, what you were just saying, the good news is that most people have not bought into this idea that the gun is what the real problem is. And they recognize, “€œNo, no, no, wait a second – there’s something more.”€ And certainly they’re looking at the mental disorders, and medication, and not to mention the abysmal failure of the FBI, of the sheriff.

Well, which one of the cool things- there was a tweet, it’s just blown up. There is a Texas sheriff who sent a note to all of his deputies and said, “€œHey, if an active shooter situation ever happens, I don’t care what else is going on, you draw your gun, and you go engage the bad guy, and you kill the bad guy.”€ And then below it he as Romans 13 where it says that, “€œGovernment does not bear the sword in vain and they are a terror to evil doers.”€

Rick:

Oh, man. Who is this sheriff? I love it!

Tim:

Yeah, so, this has now gone viral. But in the midst of, as we’re talking about what happened in Florida, certainly there’s a lot of things to blame. But blaming an inanimate object is probably not the most logical and best solution.

David:

And the polling – 23 percent think you need more gun control laws. 61 percent said the government is to blame for what happened. So, by a margin of three to one, people are saying, “€œIt ain’t the guns – it’s the government on this thing.”€

Early Gun Control Laws

David:

And Tim and I were looking at some early gun control laws just a couple of days ago and you actually have gun control laws back in the founding era, back in Boston and the founding fathers. And they banned you being able to carry guns with this *. They said, “€œIf you’re carrying it for offensive purposes then ban the use of guns for defensive purposes. But if you’re taking a gun and you’re planning to go hurt somebody, that’s banned.”€ I thought, that’s right *, that’s the right description.

Rick:

Yeah.

Tim:

So, they’re looking at the intent of the heart.

David:

That’s right.

Rick:

Yeah.

Tim:

Instead of just the gun–

David:

What”€™s in your hand.

Tim:

–the weapon. That’s pretty awesome.

David:

Yeah, that’s great.

Florida House Passes Bill Requiring “€˜In God We Trust”€™ In Schools

Rick:

Well, David, I’m so glad you shared the poll because it gives me faith in the American people. I was really worried that all the coverage was going to change so many people’s opinions. That we were in danger of losing the Second Amendment. It sounds like we may be actually able to defend the Second Amendment even more because of the way people are responding to this.

Got to go, folks. This has been Good News Friday. There’s more on our website at WallBuildersLive.com – check it out there. We appreciate you listening to WallBuilders Live.