Freedom Friday – With Mark Meckler: It’s time to stand up, open up, and show up…and SHOP. This is an epic opportunity for Americans to take their fundamental liberties and reinvent America. Tune in to hear this inspiring interview with Mark Meckler.

Air Date: 05/22/2020

Guest: Mark Meckler

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Faith and the Culture

Rick:

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. It’s WallBuilders Live, we’re talking about today’s hottest topics on policy, faith and the culture. You can find out more about us at wallbuilderslive.com. David Barton is our founder and he is America’s premier historian, Tim Barton, national speaker, pastor and president of WallBuilders and my name is Rick Green, I’m America’s Constitution coach and a former Texas legislator.

And today, normally this would be Good News Friday and we’d be bringing you a lot of good news stories from David and Tim, we’re going to pick that up next Friday. Today, we’ve got a special guest, I had a chance to catch up with him on a Zoom interview and we’re going to share that with you today because it is Freedom Friday. Now, listen, whether you’re driving home right now and it’s closer to the end of the day or you’re able to get a hold of our show early in the morning, today is a special day, we’re asking people to stand up, open up and show up. So, listen carefully to this program, we’re going to give you some hope today. Let’s dive in.

Alright, Mark Meckler is with us, one of my heroes probably. Man, I have a hard time thinking of anybody doing more than you to restore America’s Constitution out there. So, thanks for what you do with the Convention of States, what you’ve done for years with the Tea Party and right now in this moment being called upon to help save us from these tyrannical orders, that’s the real pandemic across the country. Thank you, brother for the time and thanks for what you’re doing.

Welcome Mark Meckler

Mark:

Absolutely glad to be with you. And I got to say, Rick, before we go on, when I think about people who are wired just like I am or in the fight just like I, like there’s nobody I’d rather stand with, I’ll be in a foxhole with you any day brother and anytime.

Rick:

I appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you saying that in a grunt style shirt. See, I didn’t dress appropriately. I got a 511 shirt on, but it doesn’t look like a 511.

Mark:

I like it. I got the firearms here and loaded, Rick, we’re ready to go, brother.

Rick:

I love it. I love it. Well, man, you have from the beginning of this thing spoken out. In fact, I listened to your podcast with [inaudible 01:50] and it really honestly, it helped me in the beginning of this, because I was trying to pour into the statutes and look at some of the old decisions and going man, how far can they go with this? I get the whole executive power and an emergency thing. We all get that. We’re not saying government shouldn’t have a role.

But man, it quickly went off the cliff. So, thank you for leading from the beginning on this and get some good, rational thinking on this. We don’t want to be knee jerk, right and we’re not saying we’re anti-government or any of that. We want to do this the right way, the constitutional way and you’ve been that voice and it’s been very, very helpful. And so, you’ve been there before and done this before. That’s why you doing what you’re doing right now with openthestates.com is so critical in order to capitalize on, like you say, the frustration, I think righteous anger that people are feeling and making sure it’s channeled in a good way for real change.

Mark:

Well, and I want to clarify when you say you’ve done this before, like I stumbled my way through that. We had no idea what we were doing and then I got the scars to prove it. And we did. We ended up with the platform Tea Party Patriots, grew into the largest Tea Party organization in the nation. We weren’t, but to be fair, and this is really important to me, we didn’t lead the movement, the people led the movement. We had resources, we created a platform, we helped them understand what other groups said best practices were. It was not ever about us.

The Tea Party Movement

And so, I get people say, oh Mark, it’s so great, you founded the Tea Party movement and that’s a joke. That’s like saying to a surfer who comes in surfing the perfect wave, hey, Rick, great wave that you created. No, I’ll take a little credit for, you know, I hung 10, I wrote the surfboard, this is about the American people and this is exactly the same. So, I am using that experience that I believe that God gave me and put me in a particular place so that I understand how these things work so that I can use the tools and the training that God gave me to help other people going through the same thing right now.

Rick:

Is it a fair analogy, it’s almost like you’re providing the tools, the ammunition, the food, you know, the things that a military or an army needs when they’re on the battlefront, you might not have been the one to teach them to fight, but you’re giving them the things they need to articulate the message well, to connect with other people out there, to organize the rallies and all of those things. So, these folks that have never done anything like that before can gain, like you said we started bumbled into it years ago, they can gain from that experience and the learning that took place before.

Mark:

Yeah. And I would also add part of it is just connecting people. So, one of the things that happens if you’re an activist out in the field and you’ve seen this in the work that you do, and you’re doing it in Massachusetts, it’s lonely, you can feel like you’re all alone. I don’t know, people are attacking me on social media. I got 500 people in my group, but it seems like 50,000 hate me and I’m not sure what to do next. It’s actually scary and I understand that. And so what we’re doing is taking all these groups, whether they’re in southern Minnesota or Northern Michigan or Southern California and we connect them together and the camaraderie and just…

You know, one of the things I see, Rick, that’s most important, I’m doing Zoom calls almost every day with groups of leaders from all around the country, you know what they want more than anything, just somebody to listen.

Rick:

They’re not alone.

Somebody to Listen

Mark:

Right. I want to tell my story. I want you to understand what the government is doing to me, what it’s done to my family and I want somebody to listen, because Lord knows the mainstream media is not listening to these folks, but I will. And I got to tell you one other thing. I’m in decorated by hanging out with these folks, but I will also add it’s one of the toughest things I’ve ever done: all day long listening to the stories that what’s happening to these people’s lives, they’re losing lifelong businesses.

I talked to a guy that owns five restaurants up in Michigan and they’re all shut down. He has blood cancer right now. He’s got medical expenses that he’s got to cover at least 3,500 bucks a month. He’s got no money coming in. He’s going to have to make a decision. So right, the restaurants aren’t, they’re not running. What’s he going to do? Open them up and they’re threatening to pose liquor licenses and everything else and destroy his financial life. He’s got nothing other than that to leave his kids. He’s making life and death decisions. And nobody in government cares about him at all.

Rick:

And multiply that by millions literally, literally millions of people experiencing that and even in the states that are pseudo-opening like our own state of Texas, where the governor is bragging on open in Texas. How can you say you’re opening Texas if that same restaurant here, 25% capacity, how are you supposed to make any money at 25% capacity, let alone the fact that it’s this slow roll that’s hurting people? I’m frustrated with our own governor. Man, I’m frustrated with Republicans that are supposed to be our guys, you know?

Mark:

Well, you know in Texas, you know, I was on Daniel Horowitz’s podcast today and we were talking about this. Texas is really frustrating to me. So, Republicans control both houses of the legislature, all statewide offices, this shouldn’t be the freest place in America and it’s not the governor actually has constitutional authority to tell all these tyrants in Austin, in Travis County, in Dallas, in San Antonio, Houston to back off.

Tyrannical Governors

He can tell them you can’t do this stuff to the citizens and the governor won’t do that. He will not set us free. This whole Shelley Luther thing the governor tried to act like a big hero and he wasn’t a hero. He was the villain. She got thrown in jail under his executive orders. He refused to pardon her. It was the Supreme Court that got her on.

And here’s the thing I want people to know about Shelley Luther, she’s still in jeopardy. It was a habeas petition. She’s out pending this thing. They could still throw her in jail. They can still find her. And you know what the governor’s done about that? Nothing… But he did go on national TV. I saw him on Hannity last night, taking credit for all this and Texas is so great. Rick, and my family, there’s seven of us and we got a relatively small family.

My daughter’s boyfriend is here in town from Michigan. We went to go out to dinner the other night for Lucy’s 21st birthday. That’s illegal. It’s illegal. You can’t go out to dinner with seven people in Texas. What in the heck is going on here in the state of Texas, the home of liberty, we are not free?

Rick:

We had a chance to lead on this and I felt like a slap in the face on the whole deal, because I was actually bragging on him initially, because he was doing the more measured approach while these other governors were doing these stay-at-home orders, which we’ve never done in our history by the way, even with Spanish flu. And I mean, you do it for tornado, you don’t do it for months at a time, I guess. Anyway, and then he follows everybody off the cliff. And it just irked me whenever, like you said the Supreme Court, the Texas Supreme Court is the one that sets Shelley Luther free and then he comes out and acts like he’s the hero.

Governor Abbott

In my question on Facebook, I said how do you act like you’re mad because this happened when it’s your order that said, thousand dollar fines, 180 days in jail? You said you had the authority to control the movement of every human being in Texas. I mean, you talk about a power grab. It’s unbelievable. And it’s right here in the common, take the state of Texas. Mark, stay with me, brother, we got to take a quick break. Mark Meckler our special guests today. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live. We’ll be right back.

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Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live, Mark Meckler, our special guest today. We’re talking about openthestates.com. Mark, thanks for staying with me, man.

Mark:

Okay, I got to ask you a question. What’s with our churches? I mean, they’re not open. I belong to a big old church out in Georgetown, Celebration Church. I love my church. I can’t go to church.

Rick:

Yeah, same here. I’m in Austin Stone in Austin big church. We’ve been doing the online thing. Man, we’re pushing for churches to open. Buddy, Brian Gibson out of, he’s got churches in Kentucky in Texas and he’s doing peaceablygathered.com and they opened up about 100 churches this last weekend, hoping for more Memorial Day weekend. We want to see veterans attending church this weekend and being honored, you know, for the freedom they were willing to die for and their comrades died for. And here we are not even willing to open our churches and worship.

Mark:

Well, if you find one, if you decide to go to church, let me know, maybe my family will join you. Because I am, Sunday, I’m going to church somewhere.

The Land of the Free?

Rick:

I may go to Chicago, man. I’m thinking about going up to, there’s couple of Romanian pastors up there that one of our partners is representing. These guys came out of communism, Mark, they experienced true oppression and they’re going, wait a minute, we came to the land of the free and the same things happening here?

Mark:

No, I’m with you and so I’m ready to go to church. And I think this weekend, we’re calling this weekend and starting with Friday, we’re calling it #freedomFriday. It is time for the people to take control. We are the sovereign citizens in this country. We do control this country and the only authority that the government, Federal or State or Local have over us Is that which we give them.

And I can tell you from my perspective, I’m done. I don’t give it to them anymore. You’re in charge. I’ mean I trust you to look over your family. I trust your community to decide what to do. I trust your merchants to decide what to do. I trust Americans to govern themselves, for asking every American to stand up, open up and show up, stand up and say no more. I’m done. Enough is enough.

Open up. If you have a business, if you’re a local business person and you’ve been scared, if you all open at once, they can’t do anything. If only one brave person, if it’s only Shelly Luthor, if it’s only Sarah Hoff up in Michigan or Carl the barber, they can come down with a pretty heavy hand. But if they all open up at once, not much they can do. And then the last thing is show up. You and I, Rick and all your listeners, all of my listeners to the Mark Meckler podcast, they have to go out and shop. They have to go out and patronize their local businesses.

I’m going to spend the weekend, my family is committed. We’ve saved a lot of money over the last couple of months because we’ve been locked in at home. We like to go out to dinner and do stuff like that, haven’t had a chance. I’m going to spend that money in my local community. I’m not going to Walmart, I’m not going to Costco or those places, nothing against them. I appreciate they were open.

Forced to Close

Rick:

But they’ve been open. Let’s go to the places that have had been forced to close. Yeah.

Mark:

And we are going to support them. And this is going to be huge in their groups. All across America doing this, all these grassroots groups rising up all across America, probably every place your listeners are, there’re freedom loving groups that are fighting to reopen American participating in Freedom Friday.

Rick:

I want to come back to all three steps. First, I want your comments on even the philosophy behind this idea of civil disobedience. Peaceful, of course. We’re all saying peaceful, peaceful civil disobedience. But there is a time to say this is an unjust law, it’s an unconstitutional law and it’s an unjust law and to act as a citizen. So, talk a little bit about that, that this is really the proper civil disobedience that our founding fathers would have supported.

Mark:

Yeah, look, the founders said this, not just the founders, but all throughout our history, all through the Civil War. When laws are unjust and I think most of these frankly, are unconstitutional, so it goes beyond unjust. When laws are unjust during constitution, then we are able to disobey them. Our system is actually based upon this.

And one of the things I was looking back at today was about Madison’s quote about the Constitution that it’s only a parchment barrier. He didn’t mean that there’s anything flawed with the Constitution. It wasn’t a slam on the Constitution. It was actually a call to us to say, you, the American people are going to have to put the blood and the sinew and the muscle and the bones in the Constitution, because without, it’s just a piece of paper.

More Than Ink on Paper

People can write stuff down whatever they want to write down, just ink on paper unless we stand up and we hold that up and we provide the body of the Constitution. That’s all we’re doing. When we say no more, you’ve gone too far, you’ve exceeded the bounds of the Constitution. You’re doing things that are unjust or unconstitutional. It is fundamentally up to us to do that. This is a good thing in our society. It’s not a bad thing.

Rick:

Yeah, absolutely agree. And of course, what we’ve been telling people you know, I’m a gun guy, like you’re a gun guy. We take thousands of people through training and Constitution, you know, intellectual knowledge, but also learn how to live out the Second Amendment. However, I am saying to all my friends, look, go do your civil disobedience. Don’t put the AR on your chest, okay? It’s just bad optics. You make us look bad. You make it look like we’re crazy. It’s going to give the government reasons to crack down, so be smart about it. You know, carry your concealed weapon if you have the permit, but don’t do the whole AR thing over the chest. It just looks bad.

Mark:

I don’t like that stuff at all. My opinion, that’s just false bravado and it’s doing things. My folks always taught me this. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. Right? And so, look, I get it. You can, there are states where you can sling the air across your back and go to the Capitol. I would never ever, ever do that. Narrative is bad, it’s just trying to show off, you’re trying to be manly or what, I just don’t like it. I just think it’s a bad look and people shouldn’t do it.

Be smart. Use your common sense. The enemy, the people who want to suppress liberty, that’s the image they’re going at you. We saw it with the Michigan protesters, like I know the guys up there, Garrett Soldano, Ron Armstrong, the guys that organized this 450,000 people on Facebook. That was 4.5 people that showed up with the Ars, right? They made everybody look bad and we got to stop that from happening.

Freedom Friday

Rick:

Yeah. Totally agree. Totally agree. Okay, so now this Friday, Freedom Friday, #freedomFriday and what were the three steps? So, we’re wanting people to stand up…

Mark:

Stand up. So that means you, me, everybody, whether you have a business or anything, you got to stand up and say no more. And there’s a couple ways you do that. One is just tell everybody you know. The best advertising, better than any other, it’s not money on Facebook, it’s not the radio, it’s you talking to your friend or somebody you know from church or your kids or whatever and saying, you know what, we’ve had enough and we’re done.

So, that means you got to stand up and say I’ve had enough. One of the ways you can do that is tweet about this, tweet openthestates.com, use the #freedomFriday, that’s a way to stand up, so everybody. Like if you’re listening right now and you don’t do this, you’re not standing up, I’m just saying.

Rick:

Silence is evil. And if you’re silent in the face of evil, is evil.

Mark:

So, you got a lot of listeners, Rick, so here’s what I know is going to happen. There’s going to be a lot of tweets, #freedomFriday. Go to openthestates.com. Here’s another way you can stand up, if you go to openthestates.com, there’s a link at the top that says #freedomFriday, and it says,

Rick:

And I’m pulling up your website right now on our videos so we can show people. So, we go to the website, go ahead.

A 10-Second Video

Mark:

At the very top, you’re going to see that black bar. It says stand up, open up and show up. Right? You click on that and you can go there and you can upload a 10 second video of yourself from your phone. That is just you saying, “hey, my name is Rick, and I’m from Texas, and I’m going to stand up this weekend. Or I’m a business owner, I’m opening my business on Freedom Friday.”

Rick:

Make this video now, so people know you’re open and you’re a part. Yeah, I love it.

Mark:

And this is really important, Rick. Because what I want is, I want politicians to look at that and think, holy cow, there is a tsunami coming and we’re going to back down. That’s what we want you to exercise your political muscle… I want the media to see that and say, holy cow, tens of thousands of people are doing this. This is really happening. So, go there and stand up, make your own video and say, are you going to stand up? You’re going to show up? What are you going to do?

You’re going to open your business? Tell America what you’re going to do and get all your friends and family to do the same thing. We’re going to reopen America. I’m not waiting for the government. We’re not made to wait for the government. That’s not the country we were created in. It’s not our DNA. Our DNA is to be patriotic citizens who are self-responsible, we’re self- governing. That’s what Freedom Friday is all about.

Rick:

That’s so good. Man, I’ve already kept you longer than I said I would. But I want you to tell people real quick for openthestates.com, they can also go to that homepage, scroll down. I’m showing them right now. First of all, the video is fantastic. But scroll down to the map, click on your State. You can actually connect with people in your State. You can post on the forum. You’re basically preempting people getting thrown off Facebook here and creating a forum where we can talk to each other and see what was going on.

Thrown Off of Facebook

Mark:

Yeah, this is happening. These groups are being thrown off Facebook. The largest group from Michigan, 450,000 people erased from Facebook. It’s happening to lots of groups. My friend, Mike Rosenberg has a group down in San Diego. They’re being censored in their group, what they can and can’t talk about. If you go hang out at openthestates.com, click on your State, you’re going to see the real deal, you’re going to connect with people who’re doing the real thing in your State where you can participate.

Rick:

I love it. I love it. Okay, Mark, last thing before I let you go because you covered so well with Daniel. I hate to ask you to do this in 60 seconds. But you know, the Tea Party was incredible, had a huge impact and then just seemed to wither away. And Daniel asked you about this and I thought your answer was fantastic. But tell me about your hope for saving America going forward and what we can do with this movement to capitalize?

Mark:

So, like I think we learned a lot from the Tea Party movement. We learned that the eighth grade version of civics where you just elect people and they go do the right thing, that doesn’t work, right? That’s nonsense. You teach people this and patriot Academy every day, that’s not enough. What we have to do is stay engaged. And I think we have a whole new base of engaged activists coming out of the Reopen Movement, out of Open the States, they’re pumped up, they’re frustrated and I think they’re going to affect the 2020 election.

I heard the Tea Party movement wasn’t going to do that by the way in the precursor. It did it. I felt it coming. This is going to do the same thing. A lot of folks are going to get thrown out of office because they behave poorly. And then our job is to go beyond this. It’s not enough to say reopen.

Not Going Back to Normal

We’re not going back to normal, Rick. I hate people to have that fantasy that things are just going to go back to the way they were. They’re not. But I’m very hopeful that it can be way better. This is a paradigm shattering event and the paradigm, frankly, in the last 40 years, not all that great. And so, I’m glad that it’s been shattered and we can reinvent America right now in a way that takes us back to our fundamental liberties. If I can take a few more seconds?

Rick:

No, no, please. Yeah.

Mark:

I want to rip off some things that are going on right now so people understand the opportunity they ever have. Every kid in America today, everyone is a homeschooler. That was a French thing a few weeks ago. Right? Now, 100% of kids, what if only 10% of them decide, the families decide, you know what, I’m not sending my kids back to school next year. That transforms our educational…

Rick:

And I have seen polling that says 40% are thinking about it.

Mark:

Okay, so that’s a radical transformation. The folks I know that are involved in Ed reform, my daughter just went to work for Texas public policy doing Ed reform. She just graduated from Hillsdale College. Dr. Tom Lindsay over there, I’ve never heard him this excited. He Just says the opportunity is unbelievable.

Rick:

I agree.

Drastic Changes in Our Education System

Mark:

Every college student right now, everyone is a distance learner. They’ve had to learn to use the technology. They’ve had to get comfortable with just doing stuff online, testing online. Every professor has had to learn this. So, what’s the value in sending our kids to a place where they have climbing walls and 15 kinds of gourmet pizza and I realized like, do I have to spend 50 grand a year to educate my kid? I think that colleges are going to hurt.

30% of all incoming college freshmen say they’re reconsidering what they’re going to do next year. I mean, that’s radical possibility. Okay, so this is fantastic. Health care, we are practicing telemedicine at an unprecedented rate. My son had to go to the doctor recently, it was a Zoom call, right? He didn’t have to drive a half an hour, wait for 45 minutes, sit in that little room for an extra 15 to get 5 minutes at the doctor’s…

Rick:

And could not have done that before without Trump lifting those regulations.

Mark:

Absolutely. So, it’s illegal. And so again, medicine is being transformed, we got to demand that that stuff stays in place. Here’s another one. The FDA has been moved out of the way. I want you to think about, we have Coronavirus test developed in three weeks to the market when it normally takes three years and a billion dollars. Got to leave that stuff out of the way. The trucking industry, entirely deregulated. And of course, we’ve seen mayhem and carnage on the roadway. Oh, no, we haven’t seen any of that. Right?

Rick:

Right. Right.

Mark:

And so, we got to make sure that those things stay out of the way. And now what we have to do is say all of that stuff times 1,000. At the local level, we need to remove all this occupational licensing madness. We need to let Americans reinvent America. I think America in our essence, in our hearts, we are a frontier country.

The American Soul

We need the frontier as a country to exist. We came here, we came across an ocean. We landed in the east. We moved west when we hit the coast. We ultimately went into space. I think it was a mistake to stop our space exploration. And not about space, we need that for the American soul…

Rick:

Psychological, yeah, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah. And so, I think the new American frontier is personal liberty. For 50 years, we layered bureaucracy upon bureaucracy, law upon law, it’s time to set the American citizens free. We are exceptional. We are entrepreneurs. We’re inventors. We have a work ethic like nobody else. Just set us free. We will reinvent America. We will save the economy. Not a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians in Washington DC or Austin for that, man.

Rick:

Right. Oh, it’s so good, Mark. And the soil is fertile at this point, because people that never thought about this stuff before saying wow, wait a minute, maybe I do care about my rights. Maybe I do need to study the Constitution. Maybe I need to know what federalism is and how this thing should work.

So, they’re going to be looking for answers, so the door is wide open. So, I hear you saying you’re going to take Open the States and Convention of States and the movement and all the grassroots that you’ve got across the country and keep going when COVID over, the fight is not over restoring the Constitution and restoring liberty continue. Your thoughts on that, Mark when we come back. Quick break, we’ll be right back. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

One-Room Schoolhouse

Hey friends, this is Rick Green from WallBuilders Live and I have had so many requests about what in the world could we be studying at home right now? You know, I got the kids at home, they’re normally in school. Or if you homeschool, you’re looking for additional material. One-Room Schoolhouse. It is a great new series WallBuilders is putting out where you literally get a tour of the WallBuilders library as Tim Barton and Jonathan Ritchie bring history to life. There’s a couple of resources on this.

You can go to YouTube and search for WallBuilders and look for One-Room Schoolhouse. You can go to our Facebook page and get it right there on Facebook as we do it live each Monday and sometimes additional days from there. And then you can also just go to wallbuilders.com, scroll down to the bottom and we’ll be posting the videos as they come out. This is such a great way to learn and a great way for you to share with others. Gather the family around, watch the One-Room Schoolhouse and learn some great history. It’ll be vitally important to restoring our nation and bringing back these principles that made America great in the first place. Check it out One- Room Schoolhouse at wallbuilders.com.

Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Mark Meckler is with us today, we’re talking about openthestates.com. And Mark as we’re going to break, just talking about the fact that, you know, this is not over once the states are open, we’ve got fertile ground right now. And now is a great time to get people thinking about, talking about studying the Constitution and getting involved.

Mark:

Absolutely. And I can tell you at the State level, talking to all these groups, they’re invigorated, and they understand they have power in their State legislatures and they’re not giving up and they’re not going away. I think November is going to be very interesting.

The Most Important Question..Kinda

Rick:

I agree. I agree. Alright, brother. We are Dennis Prager fireside chat fan. So, the most important question I have to ask you is the name of the dog that’s right over your right shoulder because my kids are going to want to know?

Mark:

Okay, so I got to show you here. Okay. So, that’s Gideon.

Rick:

Gideon, I love it.

Mark:

I don’t know if you can see, but his bed says, Gideon. I’ve been working to teach him to read. Because that’s Gideon way over the left shoulder…

Rick:

Oh, my goodness! Look at this.

Mark:

That’s Levi over the left shoulder to… I’m semi-matching pair of 175 pound, great names. Gideon, of course, named after Gideon in the Bible.

Rick:

I was going to ask If they had 300 of them or just the one?

Mark:

Yeah, I would if I could, my wife doesn’t allow it. Just so, you know, I got sort of a limitation on the gun collection. I got a limitation on the dog collection.

Jurisdiction Questions

Rick:

Yeah, she has some jurisdiction there. Right? There’s some jurisdiction and authority there.

Mark:

And she says 350 pounds of dog in the house is more than enough. Levi, by the way, is named after Levi Preston, a great Revolutionary War figure, one of my favorite figures. So, those are the beasts and you can see they’re very excited about the podcast today.

Rick:

I love it. Mark Meckler, God bless you, brother. And where can people catch your podcast?

Mark:

Hey, they can find me at the Mark Meckler show iTunes, Stitcher. They can also go to Markmeckler.com, they can subscribe there. We got a community going where people can hang out. I post pictures of the dog and the bass from the creek out from the turtles and the snakes and we got the whole thing going on at Markmeckler.com.

Rick:

Excellent. God bless you, brother. Thanks for joining us today.

Mark:

God bless you too. Thanks, Rick:

Rick:

Alright, folks, we are out of time for today. But if you missed out on those rapid fire good news stories that we normally do on a Good News Friday, they are available on our website at wallbuilderslive.com, check it out today. Go to the archive section, you can listen to as many of those as you would like and we’ll have more of the new good news for you next Friday. We appreciate you listening today.

Freedom Friday For Americans – With Mark Meckler

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