Adult Stem Cell Treatment Results: We call it Good News Friday because it’s a chance for David and Tim to share some good news from across the nation and around the world. We don”t often hear good news from the media, but here on WallBuilders Live, we are about to share with you just some of the good things happening right now. In this episode, we talk about how President Trump Has Been a Champion for Religious Freedom. How a judge rules California can”t force Christian baker to make same-sex wedding cakes. Lots of other good news coming out of California. A Video Shows Paralyzed Woman Walking Again After Adult Stem Cell Treatment. And more!
Air Date:Â 02/23/2018
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- Senate Committee Approves Trump Nominee Pro-Life Gov. Sam Brownback as Religious Freedom Ambassador
- Judge rules California can”t force Christian baker to make same-sex wedding cakes
- Forcing bakers to make gay wedding cakes violates free speech, California judge rules
- Amazing Video Shows Paralyzed Woman Walking Again After Adult Stem Cell Treatment
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Faith And The Culture
Rick:
You”ve found your way to the intersection of faith and the culture. It”s WallBuilders Live on a Friday which means it’s Good News Friday around here at WallBuilders. We”re always talking about the day’s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture. And always from a Biblical, historical, and Constitutional perspective.
On Fridays we zero in on a lot of the good news the stories of the last few months or so that just have not been covered in the major media. I know I love getting to hear a lot of this. David and Tim collect these stories and it’s things I haven’t heard about either, so it’s great to get that good news. It gives you a little pick me up and let”s you know that these principles work. Our friend, Congressman Bob McEwen, always says, “They only work every time they’re tried.” And it’s great to see the results when they are tried and we get those positive results.
We’re here with David Barton. He’s America’s premier historian and our founder at WallBuilders. Also Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor, he’s the president of WallBuilders. And my name is Rick Green, I’m a former Texas state legislator.
You can find out more about us at our website – WallBuildersLive.com. That’s the radio site where you can also get more of these Good News Friday programs if you’d like to go back over the last few weeks and hear some more that good news. Also, you want to visit WallBuilders.com, our main website, because that’s where you can get all kinds of great tools, books, and DVDs, and, articles – all kinds of great things for your family to equip and inspire them. Sunday school class, whichever groups you can get this material in front of, it’s going to help get more citizens engaged in preserving the republic.
So, let’s jump into good news today. David and Tim, I’m looking forward to all the good news you’re going to share. David, start us off, bro.
National Prayer Breakfast
David:
Rick, I want you to take us back a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks ago, it was the first Thursday in February. Way back in 1953, the National Prayer Breakfast was started by President Dwight Eisenhower. It was one of the many measures he implemented to help America from becoming too secular. Before his inauguration, he talked about the fact that America was becoming too secular and he wanted to help push back on that. And so once he became–
And by the way, he helped do that during his inauguration by praying his own inaugural prayer. He wrote, he said, “I’m not a preacher, I can’t preach sermon, but I can pray.” And so we actually at WallBuilders have the original prayer that he prayed – his handwritten prayer that he wrote himself. It”s part of the collection we have here at WallBuilders.
And in that prayer, it is so fun, The Washington Post actually reported how dumbfounded everyone was because it was not on the program. So, when he said, “Please bow your head.” All the reporters were looking around like, “Where did this come from?” And yet the footage shows that all the people promptly bowed their heads because they want to pray. So, it was, again, kind of oxymoronic thing between the media and the people even back then. But nonetheless, he opened his administration with prayer by he himself praying his inaugural prayer.
Then after that he initiated the National Prayer Breakfast. He got In God We Trust to be the national motto. We’d been using it, but he put it into law. He got In God We Trust added to all the currency – not just the coins. Got “under God” added the Pledge of Allegiance – just a bunch of stuff to help us remember that we should not become a secular nation.
Well, there’s part of that was the National Prayer Breakfast. And so the National Prayer Breakfast now has some six to eight thousand people that attend. It’s the first Thursday of February. It now has about 140 nations represented at the National Prayer Breakfast as government leaders come from across the world, together with American leaders, and they pray together.
And so it’s a prayer breakfast and it’s hosted by the U.S. House and Senate and the president has spoken every year since Eisenhower. Whoever the sitting president was is always at the National Prayer Breakfast, they always have a greeting, always a word of note, four or five minutes of speaking.
This Year”s Speaker
David:
And then there’s a great speaker. This year it was Steve Scalise. He is the guy who nearly died when the baseball team was attacked, the Congressional baseball team. He was shot, seriously wounded. Brad Wenstrup who was on the team who was an army surgeon who had dealt with all sorts of war wounds–
Rick:
Yeah, Scalise is the one– people would have seen him if they watched the State of the Union. Trump pointed him out during the State of the Union.
David:
That’s right. That’s exactly right. And so he literally saved the lives of– So, Steve gives his testimony here and it was really good. But we were in town because the night before they had what are called regional meetings. And in those regional meetings, you gather by state from across the nation together countries.
Oftentimes– like Senator Inhofe will always, he always has a meeting of all the African leaders. And there will be two or three dozen nations represented at the National Prayer Breakfast from Africa. And I think Jim has made– I don’t know 130-140 trips into Africa, literally has ended at least three civil wars I know of by having the opposing sides, the leaders of the opposing sides, get together and pray together.
So, literally the National Prayer Breakfast is a big thing. Jim has helped start National Prayer Breakfasts in other nations across Africa. And so we’re always in town. They have us come in to do some some private capital tours the night before hosted by members of Congress. So, we do that, show folks around the Capitol, show international leaders around the Capitol.
And so since it was a National Prayer Breakfast, the White House decided that’s an appropriate time to just kind of note what’s happened over the last year related to religious freedom.
In Defense of Religious Freedom
David:
And so they came out with a list of the things that the White House has done in defense of religious freedom. It goes through the executive orders the president has taken to ensure that religious institutions can exercise their First Amendment right to advocate for candidates. That used to be called the Johnson Amendment. And so the Justice Department will not enforce that because it is an unconstitutional infringement on the free speech of pastors and churches. They’ve given executive orders that ensure that religious Americans and their organizations such as Little Sisters of The Poor, Hobby Lobby etc., would not have to make a choice between their religious beliefs and federal law.
They reversed the Obama administration policy of denying disaster relief to houses of worship. FEMA was not willing to fund houses of worship under Obama. They are now. That’s been reversed. They’ve taken– the Trump administration has gone into court a number of times on behalf of religious freedoms helping, for example, scholarships for religious schools.
They stood up for the Archdiocese of Washington to buy ads for the holiday on public transportation where the city wouldn’t sell them ad space on public transportation. Also stood up for Jack Phillips, the guy who’s in court right now as the baker in Colorado, that’s looking at jail time for refusing to use his talents in a homosexual wedding.
Vote With Your Dollars
Rick:
Which, if I could just rant for just a second here, David. Any of our listeners, if you waste your time watching Jimmy Kimmel, please, please, vote with your dollars and stop. I know it doesn”t actually cost you anything to watch, but when you watch, advertisers pay more. And the things that he has said lately about people like these bakers that have a conscience – it’s just– it”s literally unconscionable. It’s just gone off the– it’s gone over the top.
So, sorry, I just hope that Christians realize when they watch guys like him it helps the left to win the narrative on these things. Rather than us being able to to defend our constitutional rights. Sorry, guys, go ahead, thank you.
Tim:
But, Rick, to that point, that is a very big deal. And I suspect that Jimmy has already lost some audience support because of it. I know several people that have stopped watching that used to think he was funny and now they’re really put out by it. But in the midst of this, there’s a lot of irony involved with what Jimmy Kimmel does saying that the reason all of these hosts are liberals because they’re intelligent and that’s why they’re intelligent hosts.
But really he’s not being intellectually honest, right. He says that, “Well, wait a second, if a baker doesn’t– if they want to sell you yesterday’s food, you’re homosexual, but they will make you fresh food today. Essentially what they’re saying.”
Intellectually Dishonest
Tim:
But that’s ludicrous because if you had an artist, right, and so a painter, and you’re doing a– the KKK rally is so easy to talk about because it”s easy to point out that”s so vile and wrong. But you couldn’t go to someone from the Black Lives Matter movement who’s an artist and say, “Hey, I want you to paint this painting for the KKK.” And when they say “no”, well now you’re going to sue them, and we don’t care about your conscience, and that’s your job, and it”s what you have to do. Jimmy Kimmel would never support that, but he’s being intellectually dishonest in saying that, “Well, these bakers are wrong because they don’t support homosexuality.” But when we watch we are allowing his intellectual dishonesty and his stupidity to continue.
So, it is important that we don’t continue to support that ludicrous and bad behavior.
David:
We’ve seen some of the evening talk show– some of the late night talk show hosts really get beat up over this and their ratings have gone down. And they’ve taken the position that the head of Starbucks took a few years ago. He said, “No, this is what we believe and I’m not backing down.” And he’s no longer the head of Starbucks because the people voted with their dollars and the ratings– the Starbucks sales numbers were so poor for so many quarters they got rid of him.
What a Few Percentage Points Does
Tim:
Well, and saying, “so poor for so many quarters”, it’s significant to note what a few percentage points does. So, even if it only goes down three or four percentage points, that’s millions, and millions, and millions, of dollars of lost revenue. And so it doesn’t take 50 percent of people that have watched these shows to stop watching. No, it really could be as much as just five, or six, or eight, or 10, percent for these advertisers to go, “Oh my gosh, we’re losing a lot of money.” Because that represents x number of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people.
And so sometimes it’s easy to not do these things because we think, “Well, what can we do? We can’t get all these people to stop watching.” Sometimes it literally can be as much as three, or four, or five, or six, percent that can make a very big difference.
David:
Yeah, great point.
Rick:
Guys, let’s take a quick break. Sorry, David, we jumped in on your good news and Tim and I both got to rant a little bit there. So, we’ll be right back. We’ll pick up with David Barton”s good news when we come back. Stay with us, folks. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.
Moment From American History
This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. Alexis De Tocqueville, a political official from France, traveled to the United States in 1831 and penned his observations in the now famous book, “Democracy In America.”
Being from France, what he found in America was completely unexpected to him. He reported, “Upon my arrival in the United States, the religious aspect of the country was the first thing that struck my attention. And the longer I stayed there the more I perceived the great political consequences resulting from this. In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found that they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country.”
Did Tocqueville recognized that it was Biblical Christianity and the morals it produced that made America great? For more information about Alexis Tocqueville and the positive influence of Christianity in early America go to WallBuilders.com.
Rick:
We”re back on WallBuilders Live. It”s still Good News Friday here and we had to take a quick break there. Sorry, David, you were in the middle of a good news story. Let’s jump back in.
David:
Well, hopefully we’re in the middle of a future good news story when Jimmy Kimmel has to back up from what he’s saying or the position he has held–
Rick:
That”s true.
Weighing in on the Right Side
David:
–because the people do something about it. But we’ll see. I think, Tim, the point you made is great that it doesn’t take a huge backlash to do it. These things – just a percentage point or two here or there – make all sorts of difference, so we’ll see.
But going back to President Trump and all the things that he’s done for religious liberties.
He’s weighed in with all of these cases before the court. He’s weighed in on religious liberty”s side. They actually have taken a stand for international religious freedom by placing ten nations, including Pakistan, on a special watch list because of what they do with religious persecution. You’ve seen, even the president say, I think we’re going to cut off foreign aid to Pakistan because of the way they’re behaving. He’s really taking a stand toward Pakistan which previous administrations considered an indispensable ally in our War on Terror. And he”s–
Rick:
And, David, on all these areas of religious persecution, of defending religious liberty, a president doesn’t have to get into these fights.
David:
Oh no – not at all.
Rick:
He could have stayed out of this and stayed quiet. So, the fact that he is coming to the right side of these is really, really, good for us.
David:
Well, he’s picking issues that other presidents have left alone. Like moving the embassy to Jerusalem in Israel. We go back for 20 something years on that – actually 30 years – and no president has been willing to touch that and nobody’s got thrown out of office for not touching it. But he went in not only touched it, he kicked the anthill and lo and behold all the dire predictions of what was going to happen – they haven’t happened. And he’s been willing do that on so many issues to actually pick things that everybody else has been told to leave alone, that”s controversial, don’t do it, and it’s been the right direction.
Another One that Took on Tough Fights When He Didn’t Have To
David:
He put in Sam Brownback as the religious liberty ambassador and Sam is such a good guy. I’m sure we’ll have Sam owns shortly. He’s just a good friend and I saw him recently in D.C. – just a wonderful guy. And that’s going to make a real difference because Sam is the guy who, in the Senate and in the House, worked on these kind of issues. So, this is a special for him. The president–
Rick:
And he was another one, David, just to point out, sorry to interrupt you again, man. But he was another one that took on tough fights when he didn’t have to when he was senator. He led on marriage, and religious liberty, and all these things.
David:
He took on the issue of lynching of all things. He is the guy who got behind the U.S. Senate issuing a formal apology for never having passed a law against lynching. And you had thousands and thousands of people lynched in states and that’s why you would have needed a federal law. You shouldn’t have needed a federal law  because the 14th Amendment should have dealt with that. But you had states who had deliberately racist policy – not racist throughout the states, a lot of racist in the States. But they made their policies extremely racist.
And so over 200 attempts to pass an anti lynching law in the Senate were killed by Democrats in the Senate. But Sam didn’t say anything about Democrats, he just had the Senate apologize for never having passed an anti lynching law. Two hundred attempts, all killed by Democrats, but Sam’s big enough to say the senator just needs to apologize and everybody did it – Republicans and Democrats alike, that was just the wrong thing to do. He didn’t have to take on that position that policy.
Reconciling With Native Americans
David:
When he became governor of Kansas he did not have to bring in the Native American tribes. And the Kansa Indians don’t even live in Kansas anymore. He brought in the Native American tribes and reconciled with them and said, “Look, Kansas in the past treated you really bad – whole different thing under what I”m doing.” So, Sam takes on issues that don’t have to be dealt with from a political standpoint, but he does it because they’re morally the right thing to do. So, having a guy like that as religious liberty ambassador is going to be really, really, a big deal.
You also have President Trump declaring Religious Freedom Day on January 18th which is when Virginia passed the Jefferson’s statute for religious liberty. Just a lot of stuff the president’s done.
Rick:
Alright, guys, another quick break. We’ll be back with more good news. Stay with us, folks. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.
We Want To Hear Your Vet Story
Rick:
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Rick:
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. It’s Good News Friday today, so we’re getting some good news stories. So far, a lot from Washington, but really around the country a lot of good things coming out. And you guys always– David and Tim Barton with us here with the good news. David and Tim, you guys always seem to have more than we’re going to get to. I don’t know what else you’ve got, but we’ll try to get as many stories as we can. What’s next?
David:
Well, I’m still going on President Trump”s religious liberty things that he’s done.
Tim:
Well, Rick, I’ve got one here from California.
Yielding Back the Balance of Time for California
David:
Yeah, we”ve got a bunch that we might not get to. Obviously, the list is out there, but I’m now halfway through the list. We’ve done two segments, I’m halfway through the list. So, I yield back the balance of my time to Tim for California.
Tim:
I don’t think you had balance on your time left.
David:
That’s right. I’ve dominated those two segments, or, President Trump has dominated those two segments on religious liberty.
Tim:
Always blaming somebody else.
Rick:
And you didn’t say you’re yielding the balance of your time to the gentleman from California. You said you’re yielding the balance of your time to the gentleman so we can talk about California.
David:
Yeah, I was in California yesterday–
Rick:
Right.
David:
–and I talked to a couple of out there who said, “We get our brains beat in by all of our friends in Texas saying, “What are you still doing in California?”” They said, “Because this is where God”s got us trying to redeem the state. And literally, we were together at the at the Capitol yesterday and they had dozens and scores of pastors at the Capitol actively involved. So, there’s good stuff going in California.
Rick:
At the California capital.
David:
Sacramento- at the Capitol in Sacramento. So, you’re seeing pastors in California–
Rick:
Wow.
David:
–start to get actively involved in changing the direction of that state. So, I don’t know, it might be okay to say we’re from California sometime in the future.
Rick:
Hey, man, the three of us probably speak in California as much as any other state in the country because there are so many conservatives and so many believers out there–
David:
Yeah.
Lots of Good Stuff Coming From California
Rick:
–that want to know more about the Biblical, historical, and Constitutional, perspective on these things. So, there is great hope for California. Let’s not forget – they gave us  Reagan. Reagan was governor of California and it can be turned around. I truly believe that. You convinced me that years ago, David.
David:
Jackie Sullivan ,a city councilwoman there in Central Valley of California, and so she had this idea, “Let’s make “One Nation Under God” our motto not just for the nation, but for the county, or for the school board, or for the city council.” And more than 700 counties have now adopted that as their county motto. And they put it on their police cars and their fire trucks – that came out of California. There’s a lot of good stuff coming out of it. There’s a lot of wacky stuff coming out of Sacramento, but the people, there are some really good people in California. And hopefully they’ll get control of that goofiness out there and turn it back in a good direction.
Rick:
So, you’re really going to yield the balance of your time to Tim?
David:
Well, he’s not the gentleman from California, but I’ll yield the balance of the time to him to talk about California.
Tim:
It’s almost time for the break and I still haven’t gone. This is ridiculous. Okay, so, I’m going to try to squeeze this in real quick. You guys might have seen it – I’ve got two articles that really cover the same story. One headline says, “A Judge Rules California Can’t Force Christian Baker to Make Same Sex Wedding Cake”. We’ve talked about Jack Phillips, his case is–
David:
Wait a minute, this is the case out of Alabama, right? This is–
Tim:
California.
David:
No, no, no. No way.
Tim:
Yeah.
David:
No way.
California Judge Rules in Favor of Religious Liberty
Tim:
So, the judge is Judge David Lampe, and I”m probably saying his last name wrong. But he’s the one that came out with this decision and he says, “Look, this is– you’re talking about a custom job. They’re using their artistic expression by the person making this. And so it’s not just– they’re not discriminating by not selling anything in this store. You’re talking about them using their specific trait.”
And so it’s a judge that actually understands what this is about. Where you’re using the specific talent, your artistic ability, to do a specific design. He actually ruled in favor of Kathy Miller. She owns Tastries Bakery. It’s a bake shop and so lots of things – cakes specifically related involved in this. But the judge said, “Look she was willing to sell you a cake, but you wanted her to do something specific. She does not have to do that for you.”
And so I imagine this will be appealed. As we mentioned, Jack Phillips’s case is at the U.S. Supreme Court right now trying to figure out what the U.S. Supreme Court is going to say about this baker from Colorado. A similar scenario – willing to sell cakes to the homosexuals, but said, “I don’t want to do the special design for the wedding because I don’t want to be an active participant in something that I think is wrong.”
So, we’ll see what the Supreme Court does, but at least right now in California you have a judge making a very good decision protecting the right of expression, protecting the freedom of speech, certainly going the direction of the Constitution. So, good news from California.
Rick:
Wait. Could we just play back, could we get Justin, our producer, to just play that back. I’d love to hear that over and over again. A judge from California with a very good decision on freedom of religion and freedom of speech. That’s just– that’s a wonderful thing to hear.
California Pro Second Amendment Decision
David:
Well, Â we actually had a number of California’s decisions including even the ninth “circus” came out with the pro Second Amendment decision. And there’s been a lot of good things that are trickling out of California. So, we kind of stereotype them, but over the last year or so maybe things are kind of turning. Even their governor vetoed that law that was going to require churches to promote abortion etc.. That’s– there’s some things maybe starting to happen a little different California which would be cool.
Rick:
Alright, we”ve got one more break. For our new listeners out there, that was not a slip up- David said the “ninth circus”. That’s our nickname for them. And it still holds true even though we’ve had a few good decisions from them.
We’ll be right back on WallBuilders Live.
Biographical Sketches
Hi friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we”re trying to find good content for our kids to read.
If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as well.
I wanted to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “The Courageous Leaders Collection“ and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.
There’s a second collection called, “Heroes of History“ in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.
This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at WallBuilders.com.
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Final segment of some good news on this Good News Friday. David, Tim, who’s got a short one for us?
Tim:
Apparently I do, but I didn’t know it was my job. So–
David:
Well, I dominated the first two. I gave you the balance of the time. What are you talking about?
Adult Stem Cell
Tim:
Alright, guys, I’ll jump in real quick for this last one. This is related to adult stem cell. And we’ve talked about adult stem cell quite often compared to embryonic stem cell. Embryonic stem cell is when, essentially, you are ending, you’re terminating the pregnancy in order to do any kind of scientific research. The adult stem cell–
David:
So, terminate the pregnancy – you’re killing an unborn child to do research.
Tim:
Yes. So, somewhere along the lines right. So, however early it is. But a embryonic stem cell is from a child that has not been born.
Rick:
Right.
Tim:
Essentially is what we’re looking at, right. Whereas the adult stem cell is from the umbilical cord or actually we have adult stem cells right now. Anything that has been born it becomes at that moment adult stem cell. Well, they have some new cures coming from this.
David:
Wait a minute, we’re already ahead 100-0.
“What God is Helping People Discover in Science is Pretty Awesome”
Tim:
And even more than that. And I say “cure”, cure might not be the right term. They’re seeing amazing things happen. So, this– I have several articles. This one says, “Amazing video shows paralyzed woman walking again after adult stem cell treatment”. So, a paralyzed woman walking.
Here’s another one that, “Stem cells from umbilical cords of newborn babies show promise for repairing heart damage”. And they outlined in this article how they’ve seen heart tissue growing where it was really sick and kind of cancer ridden. And the heart tissues growing back.
So, just some amazing things happening from this adult stem cell. What God is helping people discover in science is pretty awesome.
Adult Stem Cell Treatment Results, Good News Friday
Rick:
When we do it His way and we do it in an honorable and ethical way.
Folks, thanks for listening today. It’s been a lot of good news for you. There’s more good news on our website at WallBuildersLive.com. Be sure and check it out there in the archives section. We appreciate you listening today to WallBuilders Live.
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