Hollywood Movies With LGBTQ Characters Reached A Record Low: We call it Good News Friday because it’s a chance for David and Tim to share some good news from across the nation and around the world. In this episode, we talk about how Hollywood movies with LGBTQ characters reached a record low, how a priest supports pro-life in an unexpected way, how a young boy is circumnavigating the globe, and much more!

Air Date: 06/08/2018

Guest: Mason Andrews

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton

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Faith And The Culture

Rick:

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Today is Good News Friday. We love Good News Friday around here at WallBuilders. It”€™s a chance to catch up on some of the good news from the last week or two. And we’ve got some great news today. Yesterday, we actually had Kelly Shackelford already talk about it, but the decision from the Supreme Court on the bakery out of Colorado. David, Tim, this is obviously good news. It’s not a slam dunk as Kelly told us yesterday. It doesn’t solve the problem, but at least the baker won and the court said you can’t violate his religious convictions in trying to further gay rights.

Tim:

Well, it certainly would solve the problem for Jack Phillips. So grateful for Jack, after all he’s gone through. There’s nothing worse than the weight of the government coming against you when you are simply following your religious convictions.

Historically what we do looking back when our nation was founded on the principles it was founded upon. You can look back to the pilgrims and when they’re first coming here they’re escaping persecution from over in Europe, coming so they can practice their religion according to the dictates of their conscience. This is a fundamental right that our nation has long recognized kind of what it means to be an American. And recently we’ve seen the government just not recognizing inalienable rights.

A Major Change in Psychology

Tim:

So, it really is encouraging to see Jack Phillips in a position where he can hopefully sleep well tonight. Where he can have some peace, where he can conduct his business again according to the dictates of conscience. So, this really is good news for Jack and I would say even for America.

David:

In one sense this is a really, really, big victory. I know Kelly told us yesterday that from a legal standpoint it really doesn’t solve anything. It just kind of, it dismissed this one issue. So, it’s great news for Jack Phillips. It hasn’t changed the long term thing legally what can be done. It hasn’t brought great relief. But I would say that it has made a major change in the psychology of how we approach this. Because we’re no longer charging over the cliff.

The last four five years, whether you go back to Kim Davis, what happened with her arrest for marriage licenses in Kentucky. You go through the Kleins, who Kelly talked about yesterday. You go through all the way in New Mexico with a photographer, you”€™ve got the florist, you”€™ve got all this stuff. It’s now going to be harder for those commissions to really come down with those same kind of decisions that they’ve come down with the last five or six years.

So, in once sense, just knowing that the Supreme Court won the case. A lot of those political people are not going to read the decision, but they’re going to say, “€œWell,  I know the Supreme Court said the baker didn’t have to bake the cake.”€ And so in a political sense I think it helps the climate in some ways. Had it come down the other direction, had the court said, “€œNo, he definitely is going to jail under Colorado law because he didn’t bake the cake.”€ At that point I think you’ve got a real problem in America.

Rick:

Yeah.

Not a “€œNarrow”€ Decision

Tim:

What’s also funny the way the news media portrayed it. The first headlines I saw when this decision came out, even on my phone when you get those updates from different news outlets, as I’m getting these updates everything I saw initially talked about how this was a “€œnarrow victory”€. And then you look and go, wait a second, it”€™s 7-2. I was thinking it must’ve been a 5 to 4 decision. And so I was thinking you have the four liberals on one side, Kennedy joining with the conservatives. So, that’s where you get your 5-4, your “€œnarrow”€ decision.

No, 7-2 is not a narrow decision. This was something that even you had liberal justices going, “€œYeah, this guy was targeted, this was not a good situation. Totally violated his rights.”€ And so even the way the media has portrayed it was not as much celebratory as it could have been. At least this great victory that came out–

Rick:

Yeah.

Tim:

— with a really close narrow margin–

David:

7-2.

Tim:

–that”€™s not that narrow.

David:

I’ve got to admit I missed it on this because I thought it would be the last week of June when they came down. Because that’s when the really controversial decisions come out and then they leave town. And I thought it would be a 5-4 decision with Justice Kennedy riding on the wrong side of this. Well, as it turned out they didn’t decide anything except that Jack Phillips doesn’t have to go to jail, which is a big decision, but they’ve kicked the can down the road as we used to say. They did not address this. And at some point Kennedy has got to be tired of straddling the fence. The Bible says a double minded man is unstable in all of his ways and he keeps trying to reconcile two irreconcilable differences here.

Pyschological, Not Legal

David:

And so the court’s going to have to address this again. As Kelly said yesterday, maybe it”€™s going to be the Klein case. So, there’s a victory in this thing, I think psychologically, and the press coverage, and everything else that’s going to happen. Because people will think it’s a victory. I think in the legal sense it’s really not gotten to be the victory we want yet, but I am so thrilled that it did not go the way that I really thought it was going to go. Or the way, certainly, that the folks on the other side of the marriage issue wanted it to go.

Rick:

Yeah and let’s make sure we also emphasize again, as we did yesterday, the victory parts of it that are good on the legal front. First of all this is the Supreme Court including, as you mentioned, two of the liberal members of the court and the one in the middle. They said that the commission in Colorado violated the free exercise clause here. That their actions were over the top. They even said, this is their language, “€œSignificant First Amendment speech component. This implicates his deep and sincere religious beliefs and that the commission had a clear–“€ and this is an important word– “€œimpermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs motivating his objection.”€

Guys, we’ve talked about, and in fact had Kelly on for years to talk about, the hostility towards Christians, the laws, all the different government actions that have been hostility towards Christians. And here we have the Supreme Court saying this was an impermissible hostility toward religious beliefs.

So, significant, significant, good news. Let’s take a quick break. We’ll be right back. Stay with us, folks. You”€™re listening to WallBuilders Live and it’s Good News Friday.

A Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. Too often today history education excludes great black heroes from the American founding. Such as Lemuel Haynes.

Haynes, though abandoned as a baby, pioneered churches across upper New England. He became the first black American to pastor a white congregation, to receive an honorary master’s degree, and to be ordained by a mainstream Christian denomination, The Congregationalist.

He was a soldier during the American Revolution and in his churches on George Washington’s birthday he regularly preached sermons honoring George Washington. Even late in his life he expressed his willingness to go back to battle if necessary to protect America, which he called, “€œa sacred ark.”€

American history is filled with numerous examples of black heroes who are largely ignored by mainstream education today. For more information about Pastor Lemuel Haynes and other colonial Patriots go to WallBuilders.com.

Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us on this Good News Friday. Back with David and Tim and looking for some more good news. You guys want to go to some other areas or stay on the Supreme Court case?

David:

Well, let me take a different area that’s on the same kind of topic as the Supreme Court case, or at least it’s on the LGBTQ topic. So, in that standpoint, certainly–

Rick:

You were about forty seven letters short there. You’re not going to do the whole list?

David:

Yeah, Rick, I stuck with just five on there. I know it’s expanding more than that in some areas, but I’m just going to stick to LGBTQ.

Rick:

Someday we’re going to need a whole program just to list all of them. But go ahead, sorry, you had some good news.

David:

The good news will be that we’re not going to need a whole program to list all that.

Rick:

Amen, yes.

David:

That”€™s going to be good news someday.

Rick:

I like your attitude better.

The Same Group That Went After the Benham Brothers

David:

But in this particular case it’s an interesting thing coming out of Hollywood related to LGBTQ movies and characters within movies. And do you guys know, are you familiar with GLADD?

Tim:

Yes.

Rick:

Oh yeah, man. They sue and go after– in fact, they have great influence in Hollywood.

David:

Yeah. GLADD is one of the pro LGBTQ groups that”€™s out there like human rights campaign and other things that are out there. So, they’re probably one of the older groups that”€™s been at this longer than others. They’re very great–

Rick:

They”€™re actually the ones who went after the Behnam Brothers, remember?

David:

Yes, you”€™re right. That’s right. And so they’ve been out there for a while. Now, I really think that in a lot of ways the free market would solve this stuff if the government stayed out of it. And if the government had not messed with Jack Phillips, and if people hadn’t liked what Jack Phillips did, they could have not bought his cakes or not gone to his bakery. They would’ve put him out of business. You didn’t need the government to step in and do that. Just leave the market alone to do that.

So, if you take that approach on this whole LGBTQ issue, let me just take Hollywood movies for a little bit. If you have– now, according to GLADD, last year there were 109 major movies that they examined, that GLADD examined, seeing about LGBTQ characters and how they were portrayed, and what the patrols were. So, out of 109 movies that were examined, let me just kind of throw out a number. Do you know if there’s a heavy LGBTQ presence in a movie, do you know what the average box office take was on that movie?

Box Office Takes on LGBTQ Movies

Rick:

Well, they’re getting a lot– movies now if they’re less than, I don’t know, 50 million they’re not even considered successful anymore. So, I’m going to guess around that point. So, 50 million or so?

David:

7 million on average. So, 7 million–

Rick:

That probably doesn’t even pay for a major movie, right?

David:

Oh no, no. Now, let me throw another one out there. If you take movies that have strong Christian or strong redemptive content, what’s the average box office last year on that?

Rick:

Well, first of all those movies are usually made for a lot less, so I would actually think you’d have to make less for it to be successful, but that’s really getting in the weeds, sorry. Man, I’m going to guess, I don’t know, Tim, you guess this time. What do you think?

Tim:

So, I would guess 15-20 million, maybe 30 if it’s really good.

David:

The average movie was 57 million. So, the market says, “€œHey, we like LGBTQ movies only 7 million per movie. We like Christian redemptive content fifty seven million per movie.”€ Now, that’s kind of the free market weighing in on where they believe this to be. Now, that”€™s certainly not the portrayal you’ll get in most media stuff. And, Tim, even as you mentioned the coverage that came over the news when the story broke, it’s not that kind of stuff at all.

A Double Standard

David:

Now when you look at it it’s really kind of interesting because there is, if you will, a double standard where Hollywood’s trying to play to both sides. Maybe they’re learning this from Justice Kennedy how to play to both sides. And I say that because Justice Kennedy has a record. This started decades ago where his nickname was “€œFlipper”€. And, “€œFlipper”€, they called him that because he would come down on one side of an issue and then reverse himself in a subsequent decision on the same issue.

Rick:

Which is exactly what he did on the gay marriage case because–

David:

That”€™s right. That’s right.

Rick:

–they said just a few years ago, “€œNo, we don’t have the authority to do that.”€ And then, boom, they decided to do it, yeah.

David:

Yeah. And on religious liberty, and nativity scenes, he’s on both sides of all the issues. It’s like he doesn’t want to take a position because somebody might not like that position. And so Hollywood seems to kind of be playing both ways. So, Hollywood tends to announce we get this big movie coming out and it”€™s got this great LGBTQ content. And so maybe they get GLADD off their back.

But just think of recent movies – for instance, Power Rangers. Power Rangers, they announce the yellow ranger was questioning sexual orientation except it never came out in the movie. Well, that’s just what they said in the press release about the content. And in Thor Ragnarok, you had Tesa and she was bisexual – except she wasn’t in the movie she just was in the way they described her.

And you”€™ve got Solo, Star Wars, and Landow–

A 40% Reduction

Rick:

Landow Calrizzian. I’ll be honest with you guys, I’m a huge star wars fan, alright. I try not to miss those. I’m not even going to see it over that. I can’t believe they took this great Lucas character– anyway, don”€™t get me on my soapbox.

David:

Well, they made him pansexual. Except that’s not in the movie. That’s just what they say about it. And so in the movie it doesn’t show. It’s like they don’t put the content in the movie because it doesn’t sell real well–

Rick:

It hurts their–yeah.

David:

–but they want to make everybody happy so they say it. And so the result is that as you look at last year there has been a 40 percent reduction in the number of LGBTQ movies and characters that are out. So, the market”€™s kind of weighing in on this thing just as it did on marriage and everything else. If the courts and government would stay out of it and let people decide you get a pretty clear choice. So, I was really glad to see the way the market’s going on this particular issue in favor of traditional morality as opposed to LGBTQ positions.

Rick:

Was there a pun intended on that you were glad to see this since you were just talking about GLADD earlier in the.

David:

Oh, I didn’t–

Rick:

Sure.

David:

Now, I wasn’t that glad to see it. I was glad with one thing–

Rick:

Yeah.

David:

Their “€œglad”€ is GLADDD and I was glad, one D. Glad to see it.

Rick:

Alright, quick break, guys. We’ve got more good news coming up. Actually got a special guest in our next segment. Neat story – a guy named Mason Andrews, young man, that’s circumnavigating the globe. It’s going to be a really cool story and he’s raising awareness for a really cool thing out of Louisiana. So, stay with us. We’ll be right back. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Pastors Only Briefing Trip

Tim:

Hi, this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders and I want to encourage all the pastors out there with a unique opportunity that we’re presenting it WallBuilders. We’re doing a special tour just for pastors that you can come and learn more about the spiritual heritage of our nation. Not just seeing the sights but understanding the significance of what they are and what they represent.

We get to go to the Capitol at night.  And we get to see the spiritual heritage of our Founding Fathers, of who we are as a nation, where we came from. We bring in congressman that will tell you about current legislation, about our religious liberties  and freedom, and what’s going on in Washington, D.C.

If you’re a pastor or if you want to recommend your pastor for this trip, you can go to our website at www.WallBuilders.com. And there’s a link that’s for scheduling.  If you click on that link there’s a section for pastor”€™s briefing. There’s more information about the dates, when it’s going, and how it’s going to happen. If you want to know more about our nation, our religious liberties, our freedom, our spiritual heritage, this is a trip you want to be a part of.

Rick:

Welcome back thanks for staying with us here on WallBuilders Live. Special guest today, Mason Andrews, 17 year old about to circumnavigate the earth solo flight.

Mason, brave man. Come on. Are you serious? You’re going to fly around the whole earth by yourself. You’d be the youngest ever do this, right?

A New World Record In the Making

Mason Andrews:

Yes, sir. And actually, I turned 18 a few weeks ago.

Rick:

Oh no, you were so close to doing it at 17. Okay, so how how far ahead of you will you be, then, the previous record?

Mason Andrews:

I’ll be a little over 100 days when I complete the record.

Rick:

Alright, so, you’re beating the record by 100 days– it”€™s a world record.

Mason Andrews:

Yes, sir. It’s honored by Guinness.

Rick:

Okay, so what made you decide you wanted to do this? I’ve watched the video and I realize you started flying at a pretty young age, you obviously love this. But what gave you the idea to actually do a complete circumnavigation?

Mason Andrews:

I don’t really know. For me it turned out the way it usually does. I wanted to fly across the Atlantic Ocean and looked at the equipment that would be needed, and the resources and all that. It looked like if I was going to do that that flying around the world would be about as easy.

Rick:

A little mission creep because, “€œWell, if I’m going to go that far I might as well just go all the way.”€

Mason Andrews:

Exactly. That’s what I’ve read from a lot of people. And then if you fly across the Atlantic then you have to come back. You don”€™t really have to come back if you go around the whole world.

Med Camps

Rick:

I love it. I love it. Alright, so, now there’s a website, MedCamp’sMission.org with a video about what you’re about to do and also why you’re about to do it. So tell us about Med Camps and what you want to bring attention to while you’re doing this incredible feat.

Mason Andrews:

I’m actually at MedCamps right now. I’m a counselor here and it is a summer camp for children and young adults with special needs. And that’s everything from spina bifida, to developmental disabilities, autism, hearing speech and visual disorders, asthma, really anything that could potentially keep a kid from being able to go to a normal summer camp. We can host them here and it’s completely free of charge.

Rick:

And you’ve been doing– you’ve done this before. This is not your first summer.

Mason Andrews:

This is not. This is my third summer here.

Rick:

Cool. So, what– I’m assuming, for you, that’s a really rewarding time to be able to serve those kids in that way.

Mason Andrews:

Absolutely. It’s really awesome for the kids, but our counselors really have an amazing time also.

Rick:

And you don’t– these kids come for free. You guys are, that’s why you’re wanting to bring attention to this. Because you guys raise the money to make this possible where they get to come in and do horseback riding, swimming, ziplining, archery, all kinds of cool stuff.

Learning About the Mission

Mason Andrews:

Right. Absolutely. I want to raise attention to, try to raise some funds for Med Camps. But I”€™d also like to bring in more campers because we have really awesome facilities and not nearly as many campers as we could have. Even locally, a lot of people that could use Med Camps don’t come out here. So, I”€™d like to spread the word in both ways.

Rick:

Where is the Med Camps located?

Mason Andrews:

It”€™s in * Louisiana. But we have campers from all over the state of Louisiana and even out of state.

Rick:

Alright, alright. And what is the name of your aircraft?

Mason Andrews:

The airplane is the Spirit of Louisiana.

Rick:

The spirit of Louisiana. Obviously some meaning behind that.

Mason Andrews:

Right. It comes from Louisiana”€™s rich heritage. That’s what we were going to call it when I was going to fly just across the Atlantic. And that trip was going to take me from Louisiana to Paris, France. So, kind of tying together the French heritage of Louisiana.

Rick:

Okay, so one of the coolest things I thought in the video was you actually show a map, I mean a globe, and you show all the stops you’re going to make along the way. Now, will you spend any time at any of these places? Or are you just going to land, sleep for a few hours, fuel up, and take off?

Mason Andrews:

Well, I’m going to be forced to spend time at quite a few of those places – whether it’s weather, fuel not being available, and whatever else you really just can’t plan on it.

And there are a few places where I’ll be spending a number of days just to rest up. Like Hawaii I’m going to spend nearly a week–

Rick:

Of course.

How Long Will It Take?

Mason Andrews:

–to be ready for the most difficult leg.

Rick:

Yeah. Well, now, it doesn’t have anything to do with getting to be in Hawaii for a week- no, no. That’s great, man. I think it said in the video, what is it, about, you think about 40 to 50 days is what it will take?

Mason Andrews:

Right. That’s what’s expected, that’s pretty much flying as much as safely possible accounting for weather and everything else. That’s what the last few guys have taken.

Rick:

Yeah. Man, that’s cool, that’s cool. Well, we really appreciate you bringing awareness to Med Camps. You guys do great work there and we’re going to give a couple of websites out to our listeners today. There’s a MedCampsMission.org that you can go to see the video and Mason’s journey. There’s a link for a Go Fund Me page to help with the trip, and to help sponsor kids to go to the camps, and continue their great work there.

So, Mason, great work, man, just bringing attention to it. Thanks for serving there this summer again and you guys are just doing some awesome work. We just want to tell people about it. So, God bless you.

Mason Andrews:

Alright, sir, you too.

Rick:

Alright, that’s Mason Andrews. Stay with us, folks. We’ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.

Leadership Training Program

Rick:

Hey, friends! We’ve got a great program to share with you today. It”€™s the WallBuilders Leadership Training Program and it’s an opportunity for 18 to 25 year olds to come spend two weeks diving into the original documents we’re always talking about here on WallBuilders Live.

Tim, you’ve already been doing this a couple of summers and seen the results of young people coming to this program. We’re going to see more of them coming this year.

Tim:

Yeah, Rick, it”€™s something that”€™s been cool to see the transformation with young people coming in. The emphasis, for us, largely is a pursuit of truth. We have a culture that doesn’t know what truth is. We don’t know what biblical truth is, or constitutional truth, or the American heritage that we have. And so we really dive into original documents and say, “€œWell, what did they actually write? What did they actually do? Not just what did somebody say, what is actually true, and the truth is what’s transformational.

David:

Yeah, guys. This really is a remarkable opportunity. And for those who want to spend time with us and spend time in the original documents, this is a great program. So, if you’re from 18 to 25, or you know someone who’s 18 to 25, send them to sign up for one of our three sessions this summer at WallBuilders.com/leadershiptraining.

Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history.

The Reverend James Caldwell was a famous minister during the American War for Independence. His sermons taught liberty and God’s opposition to tyranny.

The British hated him and tried to kill him. So for his own protection he would actually take loaded pistols with him into the pulpit and lay them beside his Bible as he preached. In the 1780 Battle of Springfield, the Americans ran out of wadding for their guns which was like having no ammunition.

Pastor Caldwell ran inside a nearby church and returned with an armload of Watt Hymnals, the pages of which would provide the much needed wadding. He took this great Bible based hymnal, raised in the air, and shouted to the troops,”€Now put to watts into them, boys!”€  This pastor’s ingenuity saved the day for the Americans.

For more information or Pastor James Caldwell and other Colonial Patriots go to WallBuilders.com

Rick:

Welcome back. Thanks for staying with us here on WallBuilders Live on this Good News Friday. Thanks to Mason Andrews for joining us today as well. We’ll have links both to the Go Fund Me account and to the camp. Just a cool story, guys.

Back with David and Tim. Cool story, neat deal. I can’t believe it – 18. Now, David, you’re a pilot. When”€™s the last time you circumnavigated the globe?

A Good Texas Attitude

David:

What does circumnavigate mean?.

Rick:

I think it means go all the way around, I hope so – I don’t know. I was really going off of my notes.

David:

I’ve got a globe at the office I go around all the time. I go all the way around the globe several times. It’s easy.

Rick:

Now, you fly from one end of Texas to the other. That’s like circumnavigating the globe, right?

David:

That’s a good Texas attitude on that. I cannot imagine being 18 and taking the responsibility for doing something like that. 18 years old all of these different countries, all the different places, what he has to arrange for fuel and everything else. It’s just amazing.

Tim:

And then I’ll point out, this is something that would be super fun, right, this great adventure as a young person. But to go beyond saying, “€œLet me just have a great adventure.”€ “€œLet me do it for a great cause right, let me do it because I want help raise money for young people that are in need. So, let me do something beyond myself.”€ Obviously, it’s cool for him setting a record. He’s a young person doing something really neat. But in the midst of it he’s, yes, something beyond himself and mine which is also very cool about what he’s doing.

Rick:

No doubt. Alright, guys, we”€™ve got just a little bit of time left. Tim, I think you’ve got a quick good news for us to close out with.

Upholding Biblical Values

Tim:

Yeah, I wanted to throw this in before we got out of here. There is a priest over in Northern Ireland– one of the things we’ve talked about recently on Good News Friday is how we’ve seen denominations that have told churches in their denomination, “€œHey, if you want to be part of our denomination you have to actually follow biblical principles and values, do what the Bible said.”€ We’ve talked about churches that have actually left denominations because they thought denominations weren’t following biblical standards. So, we’ve seen some positive elements, some positive responses, from whether it be denominations, or churches, that are trying to uphold biblical values.

Well, this is another one of those kind of scenarios. There is a priest who had a young couple come in and as he’s doing counseling with them finds out that they are actually abortion advocates. And if you know about the Catholic Church, they’re not fans of abortion. What’s interesting about this is a Catholic priest actually tells them that if you want to get married you have to change your position on abortion because we will not condone the marriage of abortion advocates, is he lays out for them.

And I thought this is just really a great perspective that you see in this situation a priest who has the backbone to say, “€œLook, we’re not going to condone and support things that are clearly unbiblical. And if you want the blessing of the church, if you want us to conduct this ceremony, then you’re going to have to change this position.”€ So, in the midst of a culture that just doesn’t seem to have the spine it needs at times, it’s a really great perspective, a great story, to see in this situation a priest who understands what is right and wrong, church doctrine, and we’re going to stand up for it, and if you want to be married here then you need to support life. So, a fun piece of good news coming out of Ireland.

Hollywood Movies With LGBTQ Characters Reached A Record Low

Rick:

Alright, lots of good news today, folks. There”€™s more on our website at WallBuildersLive.com. Be sure and check it out there. David, Tim, thank you for the good news today. Folks, visit both websites sites – WallBuildersLive.com for our radio information. And then WallBuilders.com for all the other tools that you can get for your family.

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