Intervening For Christians in the Middle East and Standing With Courage and Making a Difference Around the World, Good News Friday today on WallBuilders Live! Â In this episode, we discuss things such as, how people are speaking out with courage and having a voice – whether it be a homeschool mom contacting a publishing company regarding a foundational mistake or a retired chaplain publishing a Christian stance in the Air Force publication, Stars and Stripes, and more! Also, learn how President Trump is making a difference in the Middle East and on the abortion front as well.
Air Date:Â 11/17/2017
Guests: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton
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Faith And The Culture
Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture, this is WallBuilders Live! Where we”re talking about today”s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture, all of it from a Biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.
We’re here with David Barton. Â He”s America’s premier historian and the founder of WallBuilders. Also, Tim Barton, national speaker, pastor, and president of WallBuilders. And my name is Rick Green. Â I’m a former Texas state legislator, national speaker, and author.
You can find out more about us at our two websites. The first one’s the radio website. Â It’s WallBuildersLive.com. There at WallBuilders Live you can get a list of all the stations we”re on across the country, archives the programs of the last few weeks, and a lot of other great information. And then WallBuilders.com is our main website and there are incredible tools available for you, your family, your Sunday school class, your local Christian school, your home school. Â I mean, there’s just a lot of great materials where you can educate, inspire, and equip folks to really understand how this constitutional republic works and what we as citizens can do to preserve it for future generations.
Now today is actually Friday. Â So we like to call Friday around here at WallBuilders Good News Friday. It’s a chance for David and Tim to take stories they’ve been collecting over the week and share them with us – just good news across the country and around the world.
Sometimes it”s polling data that gives us some insight into the trends of where things are going. Â Sometimes it’s legal victories in the courts, sometimes it’s legislation or elections – just all kinds of different things. A lot of times, it’s the closing of abortion clinics and different things like that happening out there where we can see positive signs in our culture where people have gotten involved taking godly principles into the culture and gotten fantastic results.
So David, Tim, I always look forward to Friday with you guys. I know you’ve been collecting. Â You’ve got more than we’re going to be able to share in our time together today. Â But let’s get to as many as we can. David, you’re up first. Â Go for it, bro.
Trump Has Done Much More Than Expected For Conservatives
I’m going to go to Washington, D.C. and we’ve talked in previous programs gone down the list of all the amazing things that nobody really expected or at least that most Christian conservatives did not expect coming out of Washington. Â But President Trump has done so much more than people expected. They were hoping that he would at least hold the curb on the bad things. Â But he’s been very proactive and positive things.
One of the things we noted several weeks ago was that he started to take steps to help with the genocide in the Middle East. Â And for those that don’t know, in the 1960s there were about 30 million Christians in the Middle East. Â Today, it’s down to 200,000. So Christianity is on the verge of extinction in the very place where it got started in that cradle there. And so the Nineveh Plains and other places, I mean, it”s down to really tough stuff.
We talked before that I help run an organization that does a lot of that relief. We’ve actually moved about 9,300 persecuted Christians out of the Middle East to safety in Australia, and Brazil, and Canada, and Slovokia, and elsewhere. And so there’s been a lot of folks trying to help. Finally, we have the administration that’s going after ISIS. Â You’re not hearing near as much about ISIS having victories. Â ISIS is now moving back on their heels pretty quickly. Mathis has changed the dynamics of how we deal with ISIS. Â As he said, “We’re not going to do an attrition war, we’re going to annihilation war. Â We’re just going to wipe them out.”
Much more is similar to the kind of Reagan policy: if we win, they lose.
Which is so great that we’re taking that position again. Â Hey, the good guys win. Â The bad guys lose. Â It”s the reason we love all the old John Wayne movies because it was so clear, the good and bad. And it got to a place, you’re right, the administration where it was kind of vague on that. And so now to say, yeah, under the Trump Administration, where Mathis is going, “No, no, no, we’re just going to get rid of these guys. Â We’re going to wipe out evil.”
It’s such an incredible position we’re taking.
Tide Is Turning In The Middle East
So, the tide has started to turn. Â So what”s happened a lot is folks are moving back into regions. We just helped rebuild a church in the Middle East. Â Â ISIS went in and just basically blew it up. Â So we helped rebuild it.
And so what happened was the pastor is backing it, and of the people are backing it. Â Then here comes the Iraqis, of all people, and the Iraqis want to get in a war with the Kurds and this church is right in the middle of it. Â So the pastor and the congregation are held up. They went and hold up in the church because they didn’t want the church blown up again. Â So they put themselves like human hostages there hoping that neither side would blow up the church. Â It’s been really difficult there.
And at the last part of the Obama administration, Congress actually declared this and the secretary of state actually agreed that this was a genocide that was going on in the Middle East. And that word genocide is a key word because it triggers a lot of help that can come Congressionally elsewhere.
So we now have an official genocide declared by the State Department right at the last of 2016. Â So Trump came in and said, “Okay, it’s a genocide. Â Let”s start doing things to help the Christians there.”
They’ve started moving Christians, they’ve started accepting Christians. I mean, for eight years, we couldn’t get Christian immigrants in the United States. Â You get Muslims like crazy. But Trump said no we’re going to do this extreme vetting and we’re going to make sure you”re not ISIS coming in. Â And, by the way, we do want Christians coming in and so that is already turned around.
And now this week we get word that Trump is going to do more to help Christians in the Middle East. Â He’s giving them direct aid without going through the U.N.
And that’s really key because trying to do aid through the U.N., it doesn’t quite always get where it was supposed to go. Â It”s like Palestinians. Â The Palestinians in the last several years have been given billions and billions of dollars. Â Yet, if you look at the Palestinian communities in the Middle East, they’re largely in poverty. The leaders don’t let the money get to the people themselves and so they got all these structural problems and it looks like a lot of the money may be diverted to some of the terrorist organizations — Palestinian terrorist organizations attacking Israel rather than going to help Palestinian people.
Trump Is Intervening For Christians in the Middle East
And that’s kind of the way with the U.N. Â There has been so much corruption. Â So Trump gratefully has said, “No, we’re not using the U.N. Â We’re going to use USA ID, and we’re giving the money directly to them. Â And they’re taking it to the ground to those persecuted people in the Middle East. Â We’re doing stuff right there.”
And that is a huge, huge, huge, change of policy. Â It’s a direction we haven’t had in a decade or so and particularly now that we’re intervening for Christians the Middle East. Â That’s really, really, really, big stuff.
And that, let’s be clear, that steps on a lot of those toes of those people that care more about world opinion than what’s best for our country. And yet, Trump has been willing to say, “You know what, I’m not worried about world opinion as much as I am protecting the American people.” So what a big change from the last eight years.
Yeah, what a big change. And in this case, it’s not just protecting the American people. Â Let”s protect persecuted Christians in the Middle East.
And he could have been a really secular guy about that and said, “Well, let’s go find some persecuted groups” in I don’t know, Australia, or whoever, or wherever. Â But he didn’t. He said, “No, we’ve got to protect these persecuted Christians in the Middle East and we need to accept them into the United States to help them get away from the danger there.” And, I mean, that is just such a mindset that we have not seen in so long in America – a willingness to help persecuted Christians. It”s great.
Good news out of Washington, D.C.
Quick break. Â We’ll be right back. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live Good News Friday.
Moment From American History
This is Tim Barton with another moment from American history. The Second Amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees to every individual the right to keep and bear arms, has been targeted for years now by those who are determined to dismantle the individual right to self-protection.
Opponents argue that “Only the militia, the military, and law enforcement are to have and use firearms.” But those who wrote the Second Amendment strenuously disagreed, including Founding Father Richard Henry Lee, a signer of the Declaration, a president of the Continental Congress, and one of those who actually framed the Second Amendment.
He declared, “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
For more information about Richard Henry Lee and the history of the Second Amendment go to WallBuilders.com.
Welcome back. Â Thanks for staying with us here on WallBuilders Live. Â Good News Friday today. Tim Barton will be up next with some good news. Â But hey, Tim, let me jump in here real quick, if you don’t mind, with a letter that we got–
Homeschool Mom Contacts Publisher to Correct a Mistake In Curriculum
Be great to share with our listeners. This is just a great example.Â Sometimes we listen to radio programs or read stories in the news about politics and we think “That’s a different world. Â It’s too big. Â I can’t change it, I can’t impact it.”
Here’s another one of those stories where somebody stepped in, saw an issue, and God blessed them. Â They were able to fix the issue. Â Here’s what happened.
So we get this letter from a listener that said, “Hello WallBuilders family. Â Â I recently found you by providential hand and I watched a few of David Barton”s videos, bought several books that he recommended on the website. Â And the reason I’m contacting you is to say thank you.”
“We’re a homeschool family with classical conversations…” — and they were in a class, she goes on to describe. Â One of the classes they were taking, one of the textbooks, when they started going through the textbook they realized, wait a minute, that’s wrong. Â That’s inaccurate information. Â We’ve got the original sources from David Barton”s stuff. Â We need to let these folks know.
And so she actually writes the publisher of that textbook, pointed out the mistake. Â And they wrote her back and said, “Hey, we’re fixing it in future publications of this.”
So we think that’s really neat. Now here’s some homeschool mom saying, “I want to help fix this textbook.” Â Â And, boom, there it is. Now future students — think about how many students, how many families, that will impact that will end up with that textbook.
Yeah, that”s what”s amazing in the midst of this is. Â Not only is this something that she felt the responsibility, we want to promote truth and this is inaccurate. Not only is that great for her kids that they’re learning truth. Â But you’re right. Â How many generations of kids and families now potentially are learning something totally revolutionary as far as the difference of what it was?Â What difference will this make in future generations?
So this is a ripple effect that only God knows how much it will impact and how many families will be impacted because of this. But that’s amazing that you have someone who’s willing to write. Â And then also, kudos to the publisher for saying, “Oh–
“You know what, we care about being true. Â We’re not just going to promote an agenda here. Â So let’s go ahead and make sure that what we are saying is accurate.” Because there are some publishers that wouldn’t go that route. Â So that’s also kudos to the publisher for saying, “Hey, no. Â We want to present accurate history.” This is just all around good news.
A lot of times we see something like that and we think, “Well, that’s just that person’s opinion. Â If I give them the facts, they’re not going to change their opinion.” And there’s a lot of times where that’s not the case and the only way you’re going to know is if you take the truth, and of course in love, and not going in arrogantly, or self-righteous, or any of that. Â But just saying, “Hey, I found some information that’s different from what you have in your textbook.” Or maybe it’s a public official that’s saying something, or a school board, or whatever and say, “Hey, I just want to get this information to you and hope you’ll factor this in.” Â You’ll see things change.
I mean, David, I gave years ago your book Original Intent to a school board president that the school board was not wanting to use the national motto in classrooms. Â I gave him Original Intent. Â He was an attorney, he went and read it. Â Radically changed his thinking on those things.
He said, “Rick, nobody ever gave me that. Â Nobody ever told me these things about the Founding Fathers. Â You totally changed my opinion on this.” And they went back, the school board reversed their vote. Â They put the national motto on every campus.
I mean, you just never know. Â So it’s so important to just seek truth and get that information into the hands of the people that you maybe see have the wrong information.
In God We Trust
And, Rick, you’re right. Â The significance of taking action and not just sitting back, not being apathetic, not thinking, “Well, somebody else will. They won’t even listen.” All the excuses we can make. You never know what your taking a step might do. Â You don’t know what effect it might have.
And Rick, as you’re mentioning, that the school board then said, “Hey, we’re going to put the national motto up all over the school in these classrooms.” That is a huge impact because now every kid coming in is reading In God We Trust. Â There’s a God awareness, a God consciousness, that can now be present in that school because you said, “Hey, I want to give you a book.”
And as you mentioned, obviously it’s important the way we present that information that we’re not aggressive. Â We’re not threatening, confrontational, you’re wrong, you need to change. We need to be strategic in the way we present it. Â But Rick, you”re right – a lot of people are open to something if we present it in such a manner that’s not as aggressive confrontational. And certainly, we’ve seen a lot of positive changes because of it and this letter is just one fun example.
Yeah, and many, many stories here on Good News Friday over the years of examples just like that.
Alright, we got to take another break then we’ll get to Tim”s piece of good news. Â So stay with us – Tim Barton with some good news when we return on WallBuilders Live.
Have you ever wanted to learn more about the United States Constitution but just felt like, man, the classes are boring or it’s just that old language from 200 years ago or I don’t know where to start? People want to know. But it gets frustrating because you don’t know where to look for truth about the Constitution either.
Well, we’ve got a special program for you available now called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. It’s actually a teaching done on the Constitution at Independence Hall in the very room where the Constitution was framed. We take you both to Philadelphia, the Cradle of Liberty and Independence Hall and to the WallBuilders” library where David Barton brings the history to life to teach the original intent of our Founding Fathers.
We call it the QuickStart guide to the Constitution because in just a few hours through these videos you will learn the Citizen’s Guide to America’s Constitution. Â You’ll learn what you need to do to help save our Constitutional Republic. It’s fun! It’s entertaining! And it’s going to inspire you to do your part to preserve freedom for future generations. It’s called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. You can find out more information on our website now at WallBuilders.com.
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live on this Good News Friday. Tim Barton is up with the next piece of good news. Go ahead, Tim
Twitter Banned A Conservative Ad
Alright, well you guys remember, I guess it was last month that Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn, who is running for U.S. Senate in Tennessee, she added an ad out on Twitter. Â And Twitter actually banned, took down the ad because they saw it was inappropriate content. Â Just, if our listeners don’t know, Congresswoman Blackburn has been a congresswoman I think eight terms in Congress. Â She has a 100 percent pro-life voting record. Well, she recently shared the —
And she’s been a frequent guest on our show on very important topics. She’s been on the frontlines of a lot of the things we care very deeply about.
Absolutely, so for our program because we are a pro-family, a pro-faith, a pro-life, kind of show and organization, that is exactly who she is and what she values and what she fights for. Well, one of the panels that there are, excuse me, one of the House Select panels that she happened to be on, was on infant lives. Â She shared that and what they specifically did was they were looking into the issues surrounding Planned Parenthood that there had been a release of videos. Â Which if you guys remember, the guy who went undercover and released these videos and then — was it the ACLU that– somebody sued this guy and–
Well, the attorney general of California went after him and indicted him–
And put him under criminal charges for having exposed what Planned Parenthood did.
A prosecutor in Houston did the same thing, remember?
That’s right. That’s right. He was indicted and used and you’re right.
Forget the fact that Planned Parenthood is committing these federal crimes, right?
No, no, no, you’re the guy that exposes their evil.
The whistleblower is the one we’re going to go after.
You apparently are the bad guy. Â Anyway, so when all of this unfolds, Marsha Blackburn is the lady who leads the panel to investigate Planned Parenthood. Â So what she does is this Twitter video that is promoting her run for U.S. senator in Tennessee. She has this video and Twitter looks at it and the leaders of Twitter determined that it was inappropriate content. Â
What they said is there was potentially distressing content that was there. They said that the video used potentially inflammatory language. Now, the part of the video that they thought was potentially distressing content, that they thought was potentially inflammatory language, was this and I’m reading the quote. “I’m 100 percent pro-life. I fought Planned Parenthood and we stopped the sale of baby body parts.”
Thank God they thought that was so inappropriate that we need a ban. Â We need to get rid of this saying, get rid of the video. And so of course, when Twitter pulled it, it actually was one of the best things that ever happened for her campaign–
For Marsha, that’s right.
You know because all of a sudden now everybody’s going, wait a second, this is a big story.
Well, she’s running for U.S. Senate. Â Is it the U.S. Senate?–
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she’s running.
Oh, I think somebody from that state just retired for U.S. Senate.
You know, there might have been a reason that Corker had to step down.
But Good News Friday, so the good news is Twitter actually came out, and it was just days after all of this unfolded that we just haven’t had time to get to this in the stack of the good news articles we”ve been going over. Â But Twitter came out and they apologized said, “Okay, we were wrong. Â We’re going to let this one slide.”
They really tried to cover themselves. Â And they said, “Really, I mean we try to watch very carefully and it’s so hard to measure politics. Â What’s inflammatory and what’s not.”
But we are so gracious and kind and tolerant, that we”re going to let this one go.
Because we’re such good people.
We’re going — not that there was such a protest not that we were getting such bad coverage. Â No, no, no. Â It’s just because we’re such good people.
Anyway, the good news is that they no longer have any kind of restraint on her Twitter that she’s allowed to now show these videos. Â And I guess, on top of the good news, is that she’s doing very well in this campaign. Â Which ultimately would be incredible good news if she did win that seat. Â Because this is someone whose values are so clear when it comes to life, when it comes to family and traditional values when it comes to faith.
She would be an absolute warrior and hero for us in the Senate. But the good news for this specific instance is that Twitter than did reverse her policy. Â And so her videos are now being able to be shown again. I guess it’s also good news showing that when the American people cry out that they can get some things changed even some of these big corporate organizations that we think, at times, seem to be untouchable. No, they’re noticing right now this is not the direction we want to go. Â So, at least from Twitter, good news that they have no longer banned these videos for Marsha Blackburn.
We CAN Make A Difference
Yeah, it”s kind of like we said in the last segment. Â Sometimes we think, “Oh, well that’s — they’re not going to reverse their position. Â They’re run by a bunch of liberals.” Â Or whatever reason we write it off Â And if we did that, then you wouldn’t have a reversal like this. Â So it is very important to stand up and let our voice be heard and our values count.
You know, the numbers are there and corporate America will pay attention whenever we let our voices be heard.
Got to take another break guys. We’ll be right back. David Barton up next with some good news on WallBuilders Live.
Hi friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we”re trying to find good content for our kids to read.
If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as well.
I wanted to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “The Courageous Leaders Collection“ and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.
There’s a second collection called, “Heroes of History“ in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.
This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at WallBuilders.com.
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live on this Good News Friday. David Barton is up next with a piece of good news, David,
I’ve got one that comes out of the military and it really comes out of some WallBuilders stuff as well. It deals with, well, let me set it up this way. Â Tim, you’ve seen, we often say that when we do the pastor’s briefings in Washington, D.C., we take pastors there. Â I would say it’s really transformational in a lot of ways.
We see these guys go back and they”re just not the same. Â And so many of them tell us that.
Then we hear stories later of things that they did in their church or spoke on, or movements that began in their communities as a result of it.
Well, this is what one of these stories is. Â This comes from a pastor who attended the pastor’s briefing. Â He listened to all these congressmen come in, and through the lens of faith, share all the things they’re doing that we never hear about in the news, and seeing how bold these congressmen were with their faith, and then seeing surrounded with other pastors who were, “Yeah, this is good.”
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
And so what happened was, he got back home and he read about a chaplain in the U.S. Army that was being singled out by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. Â That’s Mikey Weinstein, atheist etc.. And this chaplain, now, I mean, if you’re a Christian chaplain you would expect that when he writes on his own personal blog that he might have some Christian content to it. Â And he did. Â
So on his blog, this is what he wrote, “Christian service members must share the gospel to unbelievers so they can be saved. Not support unbelievers to worship false gods that will lead them to hell.” Well, that’s kind of the Gospel message is give people Jesus. Â You don’t want them to spend eternity out of heaven. Â You don’t want them in hell, you want them where Jesus is.
Pretty simple stuff. Â Except the Military Religious Freedom Foundation says, “That’s unacceptable. Â You can’t have a Christian chaplain saying that on his blog.”
And so what happened, this pastor actually wrote a letter to the editor on that. Â And the letter to the editor was published nationally in the Stars and Stripes magazine which is the military magazine.
Pastor Speaks Out
And so it’s really great. Â Here’s what he said. Â And this is Tommy Vlahos. Â He says, “Can a person of faith serve in the military? As a retired military veteran, a Hispanic, and a man of deep faith, I am shaken to my core after reading a recent story about chaplain Captain Sonny Hernandez coming under fire for sharing commonly held Biblical beliefs with his fellow Air Force Service members.”
So what you’ve got here is a pastor who’s a veteran. Â And he wrote and said, “You know, I would never have done that if I hadn’t been to the pastor’s briefing. The pastor”s briefing is what gave me the courage to step out. And he steps out and it makes a national publication.
It is such a good, good, great article that he articulated. Â Man, if more people would just speak out with their convictions and voices like Tommy did. Â Kudos to Tommy for speaking out. Â Great, great, piece that he did.
Well, and thanks to you guys for doing those pastors briefings and bringing those folks in. Â And I know we’ve heard it over, and over, and over, again from a lot of these pastors that say, “Man, I did not know about the pastors in the Founding Era. Â I certainly didn’t know how many good men and women we had in Washington, D.C.”
That’s usually one of the biggest wake-up calls for them. And when you take them to the Capitol, and you give them that history that’s right there, they’re either etched in stone, or in those paintings, or in the statues. Like you said, it is, I think the word you used was “transformational.” Â It is so true. Â No doubt about it. Â Huge impact.
Hey, Tim, we got time for one more if you got a fast one.
I do. Yeah, let me jump into one real quick. Â This is something from President Trump. Â He tends to do a lot of tweeting and gets a lot of criticism and oftentimes rightfully so. Â But he’s done so many positive things that oftentimes get overlooked. One of the things he’s done, he’s now actually getting sued by the ACLU over this. Now —
Wait a minute, I don’t know what he’s done, but if the ACLU is suing, I”m probably on his side, right?
So what is it? Â Maybe he’s done that so egregious that the ACLU — now what does the ACLU stand for?
The Anti Christian Litigation Unit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, I don’t — so what does it really stand for?”
American. So the American Civil Liberties Union.Â They fight for American civil liberties. They’re suing President Trump because President Trump has blocked abortions for undocumented teen immigrant girls. So when they get picked up, if they are pregnant and say, “I want to have an abortion” under President Obama, we said, “Okay, great, we’ll take you to have an abortion.” Â Â He says, “Okay, we’re not doing abortion for these undocumented immigrants anymore.”
See, that’s another pro-life position that is so obscure that if his pro-life position is merely political, he would not care at that level for a single undocumented teenage girl who’s pregnant. But he saying, “No we’re not going to do abortions. Â We’re not doing them at any level.” I mean, that’s a big deal all by itself.
It’s a great thing and he’s providing positive alternatives for them. So there”s a lot of organizations that are working with it that have positive elements apart from just murdering the child. Well, what to me is then ironic is, the American Civil Liberties Union is suing for something he’s now put a mandate that doesn’t even deal with Americans.
Anti Christians Litigation Unit
So I think the ACLU is even confused about that “A” in their title. Â But as you mentioned, if the ACLU is upset, it”s probably going to be something we support. But this is a huge step for pro-life that our administration is now saying, “Look, we’re not supporting abortion in areas where previous administrations have been supportive.” Â He”s saying, “No, no, no, we’re going to protect life and we’re going to provide positive pro-life alternatives apart from abortion for these immigrant girls.” So really good news.
More good news — we kind of started with good news out of Washington, ending with good news out of Washington. Â And by the way, on those pastors briefings folks that are listening, if you’d like to help your pastor go on one of those briefings, really encourage you to do that. Â You will be blessed as a result of it. Pastors that are listening that want to know more, go to WallBuilders.com and click on those events. You can find out about dates that are coming up where you can attend one of those briefings in D.C. as well.
Thanks for joining us on this Good Friday. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.