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Israel Aiding Texas, Religious Liberty Cases, South Carolina Blocking Funds to Planned Parenthood, and the Failure of Embryonic Stem Cell Research! Good News Friday today on WallBuilders Live!  Tune in now to hear about just some of the good things that have been happening in our country recently. In this episode, we discuss things such as, update on the cake baker case, a state that issued to defund Planned Parenthood, Israel is sending aid to Texas, and so much more! 

Air Date: 10/20/2017


Guests: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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Faith And The Culture

Rick:

You”€™ve found your way to the intersection of faith and the culture, thanks for joining us on WallBuilders Live! Where we”€™re talking about today”€™s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture, always from a Biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.

We’re here with David Barton, he”€™s America’s premier historian and the founder of WallBuilders. Also, Tim Barton, national speaker, pastor, and president of WallBuilders. And my name is Rick Green, I’m a former Texas state legislator, national speaker, and author.

You can find out more about us and the organization at WallBuilders.com and WallBuildersLive.com.

You”€™ve tuned in on a Friday – it’s Good News Friday around here at WallBuilders. We always take this opportunity to bring good news from around the nation and around the world sometimes – stories that you probably haven’t heard. They’re not covered in the major media typically and they’re always encouraging to us to know that the system does work when we work it. When people get involved, good things can happen and it’s always great to see the good things that God’s doing in our country.

So David, Tim, looking forward to some good news with you David.  You kicking us off?

Obergefell Decision

David:

I am, I’m going to start in Washington, D.C. with some stuff going on with the Trump administration by way of Colorado.

After the Supreme Court came down a few years ago with the Obergefell Decision which says, “€œHey, you have a constitutional right to a homosexual marriage.”€ At that point, suddenly the floodgates opened in the sense of you could go after anybody who didn’t want to participate in that marriage.  Instead of just saying it’s okay for homosexuals be married, suddenly it was not only is it okay for us to be married, but we’ll tell you who’s going to participate in our wedding.  And you, Mr. Florist will, and you Mr. Baker will, and you Mr. photographer will.

So all of a sudden everybody is being forced participate. And if they don’t they were facing heavy fines.  They were facing all sorts of loss of business licenses and business, even their businesses, even telling homes what they could do and perform in weddings within their homes.  Who they could and could not say no to etc.

Forced To Participate In Homosexual Weddings

And one of the most egregious cases probably had to be that of Jack Phillips in Colorado. Jack Phillips is a master cake baker. He’s been on TV as one of the great chefs and he is a Christian guy. And when he was asked to use his artistic talent for a homosexual wedding he said, “€œCan’t-do.   I mean, I’ll sell you a cake, but I’m not using my artistic talent to do something special for you.”€

And so by doing that in Colorado, not only was he crossing a line that Colorado had drawn, he was facing jail time if you can imagine that. I mean —

Rick:

Jail time for not making a cake.

Facing Jail Time For Not Decorating A Cake

David:

For not — I know. you go to jail if you kill somebody and you go to jail if you do really egregious things maybe rape, and not always on embezzlement do you go to jail that’s a white-collar crime. I mean you go to jail on a few things. And you”€™re not going to jail like used to for using drugs.  

There”€™s a lot of drugs that won’t get you in jail anymore that used to get you. So things are changing, alright.  Got it.  But going to jail for not using your artistic talent to bake a cake.  You’re putting that higher than others?

Tim:

And let me pause and back up.  It wasn’t for not baking a cake because he was willing to sell them a cake.

David:

That’s right. That’s true.

Tim:

He just wasn”€™t going to design the cake.  So you’re putting him in jail for not putting a design on a cake.

David:

Yeah.

Tim:

Where does that get — we’re talking about like taking the icing, right?  A coat of icing.  And because I won”€™t draw you a picture you’re going to put me in jail?

Rick:

Yeah.

David:

Yeah.

Tim:

That’s what they have right?  I’m not going to draw you a picture with icing and therefore, you think I should go to jail. That is ridiculous.

How Is That A Jailable Offense?

David:

You know if America survives and if we come back to our senses 40 years from now they’re going to be having this case as one of the extreme absurdities that they look at and say, “€œAre you kidding me?! How did these guys ever get to the point where they thought that was a jailable offense?”€

This is the kind of stuff we look back to things in the 20s and 30s and where at that point, even in the Jim Crow Codes, if you were without a job you went to jail. It was called vagrancy and that’s one of the ways they made sure that blacks didn’t get jobs was, they couldn’t get hired and therefore they”€™d go to jail.  

Then they”€™d have a criminal record, and that means they can’t vote.  So that keeps them from voting in elections.  Is that kind of stupid – we look back at that and shake our head and I think they’ll look back at decisions like this.

Supreme Court To Review The Case

But the good news is that the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review this case. Now you still have generally the same composition you had when they gave the Obergefell Decision.  And in that decision, it was 4-4 and 1 squish and that squish, Kennedy, who came down on the side of gay marriage.  

But he said that you have to protect sincerely held religious beliefs. Well, we get to see now if he means that because we replace Scalia with Gorsuch.  So we really haven’t changed a vote in this thing and the way it’s going to go.  And it’s it’s going to fall back to Kennedy, I think. Now it would be really nice if we picked up somebody on the other side who said, “€œYou can’t be forced to violate your artistic talent.”€  That would be cool.

Tim:

And I will point out that there are times when we see some of those very secular liberal justices surprise us.

David:

Yeah.

Tim:

We’ve seen some unanimous rulings in the favor of religious liberty that we thought —

David:

That”€™s right.

Tim:

We never would have seen come. So it’s possible that this could — I mean, they could look at it and go, “€œNo, he’s a private business.  He can do what he wants.  He can refuse service.  Yes, he can.”€

So it’s possible they might come down on the side of the Constitution, and common sense, and law, and whatever else.

Rick:

Yeah.

Tim:

But it is possible with Kennedy being there in the middle, and if they make it political instead of what’s legal, then it could be different.

Violation of Conscience

Rick:

And let’s not forget, and you guys were both saying this, but just to highlight this again, it’s not about a cake.  It’s about the idea of you being forced to use your talent. I think that’s what you were just saying, David, as well, is you’re being forced to use your artistic talent or your gifting – whatever it is  – to go participate in something that violates everything you believe in.  And violates your closely held beliefs and your conscience.

So, you know, an intellectually honest liberal would say, “€œI don’t want you to force me to go participate in a white supremacist rally or go participate in something that that is against my closely held beliefs to have to sing at it, or provide the decorations for it.”€  Or whatever else it might be. Once they see that connection that this cuts both ways, some of them do say, and I’ve even seen, believe it or not, some ACLU folks and others say, “€œThis is this is wrong, this is going too far.”€ Hopefully, that’s what will happen to the court.

David:

Yeah, we hope it will happen and certainly we’re going to say where Kennedy was because he said you should be protecting religious convictions and beliefs. If he does not rule that way in this case it certainly will create an uphill battle.  But hopefully, we’ll pick up some of the others and still win it.

Rick:

Yeah.

Supreme Court First Term

David:

All of that being said, it’s now been accepted at the U.S. Supreme Court.  It will be before.  The court just started this term first week of October and that runs now to the last week of June. They generally hold these kinds of decisions till the last week of the court and then they leave town when all the editorials come out. So we may not hear a final decision on this thing how the court’s going to rule on it.

I hate saying that because the court shouldn’t be making national policy —

Rick:

Yeah.

Amicus Brief

David:

But that’s the place where we are right now. We’ll see what the court rules on that.  But the good news is that the Trump administration injected itself into this decision, into this case, by filing a friend of the court brief.  

An amicus brief the solicitor general of the United States filed heavily in favor of religious liberty and that’s something you never would have got from the previous administration at all.

And Trump didn’t have to do anything on this. They could have set this out and just let it go.  They don’t weigh in on all the cases.  The Supreme Court, they don’t weigh in or a bunch of cases the Supreme Court.  But this is big enough to them that they weighed in on this case and said, “€œThis thing needs to be decided.  The right direction – this guy should not be facing jail time nor should anyone be forced to violate their sincerely held religious beliefs.”€

Trump Getting Involved, Doing The Right Thing

So we’ve already seen Trump doing that with rolling back the mandates in Obamacare, the abortion mandates.  We’ve seen them do that on trying to roll back the provisions of the Johnson Amendment that keep churches from speaking, on weighing in against discrimination against churches and FEMA.  

Issue after issue it is really good to see them take proactive action and weigh in on this court case. They may not change their opinion of a single justice at all, but it”€™s just the right thing to do and it’s nice to see the administration do the right thing.

Rick:

It”€™s the right thing and it impacts national attitudes as well. Let”€™s not forget that when President Obama switched his position on marriage it impacted a lot of people. They went with him on that. So when the president weighs in it does certainly impact attitudes and opinions out there.  So very, very good news.

Quick break – we’ll be right back with more good news from David and Tim Barton. Stay with us folks. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Moment From American History

This is Tim Barton with another moment from American history. The Second Amendment to the Constitution, which guarantees to every individual the right to keep and bear arms, has been targeted for years now by those who are determined to dismantle the individual right to self-protection.

Opponents argue that “€œOnly the militia, the military, and law enforcement are to have and use firearms.”€ But those who wrote the Second Amendment strenuously disagreed, including Founding Father Richard Henry Lee, a signer of the declaration, a president of the Continental Congress, and one of those who actually framed the Second Amendment.

He declared, “€œTo preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”€

For more information about Richard Henry Lee and the history of the Second Amendment go to WallBuilders.com.

Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us on this Good News Friday – David and Tim Barton sharing good news with us. Tim Barton”€™s up next.  Tim —

Governor Henry McMaster

Tim:

Guys for this one, it’s good news that came from Governor Henry McMaster. Now I”€™m going to put you on the spot —

Rick:

Uh – oh.

Tim:

Where is Governor McMaster from?

Rick:

David, I think that question is directed to you. I’ll certainly defer.

Tim:

Now here’s the challenging part.  You do have 57 states to choose from.

Rick:

Right, right, right.

Tim:

No, no, no, no – wait, wait – 50, 50.

David:

Is McMaster from Puerto Rico?

Tim:

No, see, and I knew I if I said extra I would throw you off. No.  See under this administration there’s only 50 states previous administration —

Rick:

Oh.

57 States?

Tim:

There were fifty-seven states.

David:

Oh, that”€™s right.

Rick:

We got rid of seven states?

David:

So we’re less likely to get it wrong because we have less choice in this one. So actually, Rick, you asked a question.  Did you detect the sound of crickets there for a bit?

Rick:

I did. And I was starting to think we’ve got a 2 percent chance, right —

Tim:

Well, no, no, see, actually —

Rick:

1 in 50.

Tim:

Actually, actually —

Rick:

But we know Texas”€™ Governor.

Tim:

It’s no — it’s not the Texas governor.  But it is where one of my father’s children lives and his grandchildren —

Rick:

Oh.

David:

South Carolina.

Tim:

So I thought there was a chance that he might — Yes, so it’s South Carolina.

David:

So that’s the replacement for Nikki Haley – that was Lieutenant Governor that came and–

Tim:

And that would be the reason, that’s right, that would be the reason that his name is not as well-known is because we didn’t see the normal election process, etc.

Rick:

And he’s only been in what eight months, 10 months whatever it might be.

Tim:

Right.

South Carolina Defunds Planned Parenthood

Tim:

But in the short span — so here”€™s one of the cool things that Governor McMaster has done in South Carolina.  He came out with an executive order.  And in this executive order, he said that South Carolina, or specifically as a state, but as South Carolina says the state will no longer do business with any organization affiliated with the abortion industry including Planned Parenthood as listed on this.

But he said taxpayer dollars must not directly or indirectly subsidize abortion providers like Planned Parenthood. So, he threw the gauntlet down and said, “€œWe’re not helping Planned Parenthood.”€

He said that any facility that — he said, “€œLook, you can use your facility for other things.  But if it’s housed in the same place where you do abortions or if you do abortions in the same facility you do other things, we’re not sending you any money because we’re not funding abortion on any level whatsoever.

So this is really cool coming from South Carolina where you have a governor with executive order showing some backbone saying, “€œLook, we’re not going to take these unborn children.  We’re not going to take innocent life – we’re going to protect life.”€

Which is, we understand, the very first of the inalienable rights that God gave us is the right to life. And you have a governor saying with an executive order we’re protecting rights of life.  

But specifically, calls out Planned Parenthood says, “€˜We’re not funding you because you provide abortions.  In fact, anybody that does abortions you’re not going to get any state money and we’re not going to repay from your Medicaid or whatever else.  You take money coming in we’re not repaying that.  So you will see no money from the state.”€

So really cool coming from the governor of South Carolina.

70-90 Percent Does Not Want Government Funding Abortions

David:

And you know that really should not be a controversial or even a uniquely praiseworthy position since about 70 percent of the nation consistently says you should not be using taxpayer dollars to fund abortion. I mean, this should be a policy that even the blue state governors get because you’re talking 70 percent of the people. And so we’re now at a point where we’re so polarized in America that when you do a 70 percent of the people wanting — and in South Carolina it”€™s probably more like 85 or 90 percent — that that becomes good news.

Because you really do what the people want you to do. I mean, what a twist.  What an ironic twist that is in America. But we should not be just praising red governors for doing this.  This is something blue governors ought to be doing as well.

Rick:

And what a great distinction that he’s saying not only will we not use taxpayer dollars to fund directly abortion, we’re not going to do business with you at all if you’re involved in abortion. It’s a very, very bold move and exciting to see out of South Carolina there.

Quick break – we went a little long in our first segment so we’re going to keep this one short, folks. Stay with us though. We’ll be right back with more good news from David and Tim Barton.

Bring A Speaker To Your Area

Tim:

Hey, this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders.  And as you’ve had the opportunity to listen to WallBuilders Live, you’ve probably heard a wealth of information about our nation, about our spiritual heritage, about the religious liberties, and about all the things that make America exceptional.

And you might be thinking, “€œAs incredible as this information is, I wish there was a way that I could get one of the WallBuilders guys to come to my area and share with my group.”€

Whether it be a church, whether it be a Christian school, or public school, or some political event, or activity, if you’re interested in having a WallBuilders speaker come to your area, you can get on our website at www.WallBuilders.com and there’s a tab for scheduling. If you”€™ll click on that tab, you’ll notice there’s a list of information from speakers bio’s, to events that are already going on. And there’s a section where you can request an event, to bring this information about who we are, where we came from, our religious liberties, and freedoms. Go to the WallBuilders website and Bring a speaker to your area.

Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Good News Friday today David and Tim Barton sharing some good news with us.  And it’s David’s turn. David —

“€œChristian”€ Should Line Up With The Bible

David:

You know, one of the things that I”€™ve made a distinction on in recent years is I really don’t care what”€™s Christian anymore.  I care what”€™s Biblical, because so many things that are called Christian really don’t line up with the Bible.  And so many churches that call themselves Christian don’t even believe the Bible. And so they —

Rick:

Meaning they use that label but yet their life, their positions, their, even their theology.

David:

It doesn’t line up —

Rick:

To the actual Bible.

David:

Yeah, that’s right. I saw one church this past week or so. Ninety-three percent of the members voted that they don’t want any more weddings to be done at the church until the church also allows homosexual weddings to be done at the church. Ummm, alright.  You can call yourself a Christian church, but that’s not a Biblical position.

Rick:

Right.

Christian Nation

David:

I mean, straight out.  That’s just flat wrong.

So I’ve gotten away from using the term Christian in many ways because I’m looking for what’s Biblical. And so going back a ways, we talk about what the Founding Fathers said about being a Christian nation and one of the characteristics they said — and so many use that term Christian nation — even Jefferson.  One of the least religious Founding Fathers called America a Christian nation. So in doing that they had a different–

Rick:

And not only back then, but you pointed out president after president throughout our history.

David:

That’s right.

Rick:

That use that phrase as well.

Biblical Principles in the Culture

David:

It was not a controversial phrase because they had a definition that is not what the progressive left has redefined it to be today. I mean, it was, it just meant a nation that was influenced and shaped by Biblical principles in the culture and that was us. And so one of the ways was benevolence and the Founding Fathers have all these quotes about how Christianity produces benevolence and they would point to things like the Good Samaritan.

You know, you’re taught to go help others whether they’re part of your group or not. Or you’re helping a Jew and you’re a Samaritan and they don’t even like each other.  But you help them because they’re wounded on the side of the road. And so all this concept benevolence.

Jesus  Taught Benevolence

And John Adams talked about how that Jesus is the one who taught benevolence. And Richard Henry Lee, and John Quincy Adams, and Daniel Webster, and founder after founder talked about benevolence being a Christian trait. And in their definition, it would be.  But I would move off to say I really think benevolence is more of a Biblical trait because Old Testament and New Testament both teach that kind of kindness the way you help others.  And that you love others as you love yourself, and you love your neighbor.

And so there’s all this out there.  But we used to point out that America really was the only nation in the world that when a disaster hit in some other nation, we’re the ones to go running there. When that big tsunami hit Indonesia, the other Muslim nations didn’t go help a brother nation. I mean, it was the Christian nations who went and helped.

Israel Is Helping With Hurricane Harvey

And so I love what’s happened with this to really kind of prove the point. Benevolence is a Biblical trait. Texas has certainly gone through a devastating type disaster with Harvey.  

What Harvey did economically was that 70,000 homes that are ruined now they’re displaced. It’s going to last for years for Texans to get over that and looking at all that happened there. We are now receiving help from Israel.  Of all places Israel is sending help to Texas which that’s that Biblical thing – Old Testament, New Testament is the Bible that generates benevolence.

And so you compare a Biblical faith to that of other religions and the benevolence continues to show Biblically. But I think that’s a really, really good news and it’s really cool that Israel is actually coming to Texas, and helping Texas, and sending aid to Texas.

Founders Bible

Rick:

I got to add in here, David, something somewhat off topic, but you mentioned that whole, what does the Bible have to say about it.  And what did the Founders say about the Bible? And I mentioned this briefly a few weeks ago, but I’ve talked about the Founders Bible several times on the show, but this year I’ve been reading through the Founders Bible.

And I know I should have already done that.  When”€™d you come out with this thing, it was like three years ago?  I should have already done it, but I didn’t.

This year, I’m actually reading straight through. And there is something about reading through and then having those articles that tell the story of the Founders and our nation tied to the scripture that you read.  In other words, when you’re in Deuteronomy and you’re learning about the law and the law being given by Moses and then there’s an article about how that impacted the United States and the power of that has been just remarkable.  

I am loving it and I just got to tell you, man, fabulous job. And to bring the history to life while I am reading God’s word.  I just want to thank you.

Founders Bible App

I want to encourage listeners to check it out.  You can now get the app and all that.  But it’s just a great way to study and it definitely makes the story of America make so much more sense because you can see it happening as you read those articles that you wrote and inserted.

But right in the context of where those guys, the Founders, were reading the Bible and what they were getting from it as well. So that Christian nation thing you’re talking about you address and some of those articles and the whole concept of, I forget the historian’s name that said it was the atmosphere they were breathing. But that is, it just really comes across. Thank you for doing that.

Folks need to check out that Founders Bible. Stay with us. We’ll be right back. It’s Good News Friday. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Biographical Sketches

Hi friends! This is Tim Barton of WallBuilders.This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. I know, oftentimes as parents, we”€™re trying to find good content for our kids to read.

If you remember back in the Bible, the Book of Hebrews it has the Faith Hall of Fame, where they outlined the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity and our faith as well.

I wanted to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called, “€œThe Courageous Leaders Collection“€ and this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers.

There’s a second collection called, “€œHeroes of History“€ in this collection you read about people like Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman, the list goes on and on.

This is a great collection for your young person to have and read. And it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at WallBuilders.com.

Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live.  One more segment of good news today and Tim Barton”€™s up next, Tim –

More Pro-Life Victories

Tim:

Guys, this is one that that I feel like it’s almost beating a dead horse so to speak in the sense that we’ve talked about this a lot and yet we still see new articles come out. Now the pro-life issue is something that it seems like every single week we’re talking about victories and pro-life.  And I don’t get tired of banging on that drum so to speak.

Rick:

That’s right.

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Still Hasn’t Cured a Single Patient

Tim:

But this one is one I’m not tired of talking about it.  But it just seems like that’s coming up again, and again, and again.  The title says “€œEmbryonic Stem Cell Research Still Hasn’t Cured a Single Patient.”€

Now embryonic stem cell we talk about is different from adult stem cell in the sense that the embryonic stem cell is taken from the embryo.  Whereas, the adult stem cell was taken from a living individual. So whether it’s from your skin or saliva in your mouth or whatever, it is it’s taken from a living individual.  Whereas, the embryonic is taken from the embryo. And to do embryonic stem cell —

David:

And by the way, that living individual might only be two minutes outside the womb because it can be umbilical cord. So adult stem cell does not mean adult, it just means a living breathing human being outside the womb even if it’s 2 seconds old.

Tim:

Well, and in contrast, so for embryonic stem cell, to get the embryo for the stem cells for that embryonic stem cell, they actually have to destroy the life that was being created. And so it’s almost like this early abortion that’s taking place to destroy this embryo. And scientists continue to support this and one of  the things the article points out —

David:

And by the way, let me just say – if God, if there is a God —

Tim:

Which there is.

David:

And if His word is true —

Tim:

And it is.

SPEAKER: M11

And if He acts according to His word —

Tim:

Which he does.

Rick:

He does. Yep.

David:

Do we really think he”€™s going to bless the taking of an innocent human life when it’s on its way to being the person He intended for it to be. Is there any chance He’s going to bless any activity associated with killing an unborn human life?

Tim:

He only made it very clear that he would not.

David:

So if God is real and if His word is true, then why would it be a surprise that there is absolutely zero benefit medically that comes from killing a child?

Tim:

Sure, so one of the things this article points out is the reason so many scientists are behind this is because that’s where the money is. That’s where the funding is and so if they want to keep their funding, they”€™re going to keep doing this.

David:

Yeah, but I’ve got to go to Jesus”€™ thing.  Hey, what does it profit you to gain the whole world and lose your soul?

Wasting Money On Embryonic Cells

Tim:

Oh, absolutely. But that’s why it’s good news that they’re still seeing no results because, at some point, you’re going to go, wait a second, let’s stop wasting our money —

David:

Yeah.

Tim:

And let’s put it into what works which is the adult stem cell. We’ve talked about, you know, 100 whatever plus it is of the cures that have come where people can walk, and limbs are growing, and eyes receive sight.  It’s almost like one of these Jesus miracle kind of moments.  Really cool stuff.

Miracles With Living Stem Cells

But that does then reflect the good news of the fact the embryonic has had no success. And adults themselves had incredible success. So this is really good news that embryonic stem cell is still striking out because that does then point to the other side that is working and hopefully the funding will shift.  But it’s still good news that the embryonic stem cell is still 0 for however many thousands of trials they’ve had.

Rick:

And like you said, Tim, some things we repeat on this program or we continue to get similar good news or similar stories, but it’s once again God’s ways not only right, but work best. And the science proves it over, and over, and over, again and so many times we find out with the science side of things.  It may be even in recent decades we discover another piece of evidence.

In fact, I mentioned the Founders Bible – I was reading an article this morning, David, where you point out the whole DNA thing and that DNA is actually an eyewitness and that the Bible talks about the blood crying out in the Cain and Abel story to God.

And then here we are just in the last few decades find out, yep, DNA is — it can actually speak and be a witness for. So anyway, this just amazing – God”€™s system is incredible and it’s actually exciting to constantly discover those truths. But this whole deal about this stem cell research is another proof that when you do it God’s way, when you honor life, when you honor His word, then you get good rewards.

Israel Aiding Texas, Religious Liberty Cases, South Carolina Blocking Funds to Planned Parenthood, and the Failure of Embryonic Stem Cell Research!

And so thankful to hear those good news stories. Guys, thank you for your research, thank you for bringing that good news to us. Thanks folks for listening today. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.