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It’s Time To Be Bold – With Sean Feucht: No doubt you’ve heard of Sean Feucht; a speaker, author, missionary, artist, activist, and the founder of multiple worldwide movements including Let Us Worship, which has gathered believers across America to worship and pray for revival. Today he joins us to discuss what’s been going on around the world, worship, and his new book: BOLD, Moving Forward in Faith, Not Fear. Tune in to hear this timely, inspiring interview and discover what force is powerful enough to turn riots into revivals!
Air Date: 08/10/2022
Guest: Sean Feucht
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Alright, guys, later in the program we’ve got Sean Feucht with us. He’s been having these really cool gatherings across the country and also now around the world bringing people together, Come, let us worship.
When I’m out there speaking and doing events, I’m seeing bigger and bigger crowds, more and more people tuning in.
I wanted to know what the Lord has to say about how they should act in all areas of life. Of course, our area that we’re specifically tied into is government and the political realm, if we can use that term. But it’s just really encouraging to see, I know Coburn was bad and we had a horrible couple of years, but in some ways, man, I think God’s using it to wake people up.
Yeah, I think for sure God is waking people up. We’ve talked about several times before the idea of what a Great Awakening is, what it looks like historically, and the fact that we think we’re probably in a Great Awakening right now, looking at the fact that Great Awakenings take decades.
First Great Awakening
But there is a cultural move, there’s a transformation that happens. And the idea that it’s not a weekend revival. The awakening is people awakening to issues of righteousness or morality.
If you go back to the First Great Awakening and you see a lot of what was happening where it was the breaking down of some of the religious structure, recognizing, first of all, the sovereignty of God was certainly highlighted, people had to get back and remember who God was, and then they had to get kind of off their pompous positions and their divisions and realized that they were all a family.
And so there was a lot of things that challenged the status quo, that challenged especially the status quo inside of the church where people where when you go to the Second Great Awakening, the fact that every single major denomination divided during the Second Great Awakening over the issue of slavery.
Slavery was a major factor in the Second Great Awakening, and certainly it wasn’t the only factor. But the Second Great Awakening went for 60, 70+ years; and during that time there was so much conflict, there was so much disagreement, so much frustration. And if you’re talking about Great Awakening that happened 30, 40, 60, 70 years, then what we’re looking at in America where people we are seeing things change over the last couple of years since COVID.
But we could back up to the 90s, the early 2000s, I don’t know that at this point we could say here’s maybe where some of the awakening started, here’s where the movement was. But we certainly can point to indicators over the last couple of decades that would reveal that God is doing something, that God is moving, that God is challenging people and raising people up and stirring people up.
And since COVID, it was really highlighted where it seems like a lot of people that were slumbering had their eyes opened. And Rick, as you mentioned now as we’re traveling, there already was a lot of momentum. If you go back to 2015-2016, especially during some of the Trump administration.
There was some momentum in areas, but the momentum were from people that maybe were already engaged on a higher level. Now we are seeing momentum from people who had not really been engaged.
This is not a great analogy, but reminds me a little bit in The Patriot where Mel Gibson’s character early on, he identified, oh yeah, there’s problems, we get it, there’s problems going on. But once it became personal, once it impacted his family, he said, okay, I’m getting really involved now, rolled up his sleeves and then he became the ghost, so to speak, in The Patriot, but he became the hero, the leader of a movement in the Patriot, that I think is much more of what we are seeing right now.
Where there were some people who they already identified, there were problems, their hearts might have already been in the right place on some level, but COVID woke up an even greater percentage, a greater number of people. I think there’s a lot of signs and evidence for that. But it is very encouraging to see part of awakening and a rising of remnants to want to restore some areas of truth and righteousness from a biblical perspective.
And I think some of the things that happened with what Sean is doing are very interesting in that they’re not typical for what you usually think of with we have today revival meetings, and I think in some ways revival meetings have very little to do with revival. We just call them that.
Revival to Awakening
We put a label on them. Tim, as you pointed out, revivals typically span decades, they deal with discipleship, they deal with change in the way people think in every area. There’s a whole lot they deal with.
And to clarify too, this is why they were called Awakenings, not just a revival. I mean, certainly revival was a term used, but why historically we’d call it an Awakening is because it was more than a Wednesday night service, it was more than a weekend service, it was more than a week.
And we can point to revivals, whether people talk about maybe like the Azusa Street Revival or there was a revival in Brownsville, there have been movements that were called revivals, and maybe they lasted for a couple of years. But what we’re talking about is something more than the common vernacular, common idea of revivals used over the last several decades or maybe really throughout most of our lifetime. From a historic standpoint, it’s a different kind of revival, which might be better termed Awakening.
And if you look at what Sean is doing, I remember even two, three years ago as COVID was starting out, he was doing these worship services out on the beaches, literally in California. He would just have these worship services and then get 2,000 or 3,000 just wandering in, or maybe 10,000 at times, wandering.
Not A Planned Program
And at that time, three years ago, I don’t know if you guys remember, you remember the extreme rise of Satanism that was going at that point in time and what was happening with particularly Gen-Zs and some younger millennials where they were talking about how that was really the growing religion with young people, Satanism.
And you got all these Satanists that started showing up to his praise and worship things because it really wasn’t like they were preaching. They were just doing some worship songs and he’d get guitar and they get music going and they would have this worship kind of gatherings.
There were Satanists that were there to really give a problem and they would end up just running toward the front and wanting to get saved. Something just would come over them and convict them. And it wasn’t like they were doing these alter calls.
I mean, these guys were just running to the front wanting to get saved. It’s like that’s sovereign; that’s something that’s not part of the planned program.
Well, this is something too that we can look at. And obviously, with so many denominations in America, there’s a lot of theological disputes and differences and some people might look at Sean and part of what he does and think, man, I don’t really like that. Well, there’s plenty of things we can dislike from people’s behavior and actions and attitudes. But disliking is different than recognizing that God is moving and doing something.
God Can Use Anybody
Because, dad, as you mentioned, maybe his worship style is not people’s favorite style or maybe some kind of his theological beliefs, they don’t line up with certain people’s theological beliefs on some level. However, you can’t really dispute that God is doing something when you have these Satanists running down to the altar and weeping, openly crying and seeking out and crying on God and pursuing salvation, a repentant heart, all these things.
That is something beyond man that God is doing.
And so I think too it’s important when we recognize that God is moving; God uses all kinds of people. In fact, I was reading in 2 Peter this morning, and it was King James, so I’m going to use the new King James version and not tell you what 2 Peter said in King James because it talked about a dumb donkey speaking, except they didn’t use the donkey word in the King James, right. But like if God can use a dumb donkey, God can use anybody.
And what we are seeing certainly is and by the way, I’m not at all suggesting that Sean is a dumb donkey, that’s not the connection I’m making right now, but we’re recognizing God is not limited to using someone whose theological beliefs line up specifically with ours. We are seeing in an awakening that God uses lots of different people in lots of ways.
Even though we might not like their style or we might disagree with something they say or do, again, you can’t really dispute that God is doing something. And, this is what’s so cool to be able to track Sean over the last several years. You can see them all over social media.
And certainly, he’s ruffled some feathers, which doesn’t really offend me on a lot of levels. You know, we’ve ruffled many…
George Woodfield & Sean Feucht
I was about to say we got to say we kind of like that, don’t we?
You know, that’s it. Sometimes that the old Texas Adage that the guy would drop the fight of a hat and he’d drop his hat to start the fight; like, yes, sometimes that can be us and we don’t mind doing it. Again, going back to this notion of the Great Awakening, we are seeing God move in this nation.
And it is super fun to see even Sean post some of these things from some of the places he’s been. And not just in America, even international. But we are seeing God move literally around the world.
Well, other things I think is real interesting as Sean as Tim, as you’re pointing out, there is some controversy. But do you remember how much controversy there was with George Woodfield? I mean, he was just attacked with everybody else. And now that it’s all over, we look back and say what a brilliant thing he was doing.
And what I have really liked about what Sean does is he’s not looking for the Bible belt. He’s going into cities that are very blue, they’re very progressive, very woke: Seattle and Portland and Philadelphia and all these other cities. And this is where he’s doing what he’s doing.
Sean’s going into the roughest, toughest territory, and he’s taking on things there and we’re seeing change. I appreciate the fact that he’s just not trying to pump up God’s people, he’s trying to reach people that aren’t God’s people and make them into God’s people. And he’s just doing so much of this with worship.
I really appreciate his heart and his spirit and his attitude. And I’ve been with him on multiple occasions, and he really is a real humble guy. He just wants to be a servant, and we really appreciate him.
Alright, guys, we’ll take a quick break. We’ll be right back. Sean Feucht, our special guest. Stay with us, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.
Hey, guys, it’s Tim Barton, and I want to let pastors and ministry leaders know about an opportunity coming up actually in the very near future, September 1st in the Dallas area in Texas, we are hosting a pastors’ conference. And traditionally, we’ve hosted pastors’ conference. In fact, for decades we have.
We would take Pastors to Washington, DC, we would give them a special private after hours tour of the capital where pastors could go and first hand see some of the spiritual foundation of the nation, some of the pastors involved in shaping the nation. And we give them an opportunity to hear from congressmen and senators who were themselves Bible-believing Christians fighting to make a difference in God’s kingdom there in DC.
But now we’re going to bring pastors to our collection in Texas. We know that God’s allowed us to amass this amazing collection of original documents that show the Christian heritage of the nation. We want to let pastors see that firsthand and still talk to congressmen and senators and find out what’s going on in the nation for pastors and ministry leaders.
If you want to find out more information, go to wallbuilders.com, you can click on the ‘Initiative’ tab, go down to ‘Pastors Briefing’, click on that. If you are a pastor and ministry leader, we encourage you to sign up and come join us in Dallas September 1st for our pastor’s briefing. We hope to see you there.
The Largest Gathering
Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Great to have Sean Feucht with us; all kinds of great good news about these Let Us Worship events, it’s not just in the US, but now outside the country. Sean, thanks for coming on, bro.
Hey, so pumped to be on here. Thanks for having me.
So you’ve been doing this across the US since the whole COVID thing hit, seeing a lot of it in the media, thrilled to see these gatherings. But you decided to take it international. In South Africa, you had something like 8,000 people gathered.
Yeah, it was really wild. It was probably actually more like 10,000. We stopped counting after about 8,500. But what was so wild about it was that this was the largest gathering, not just the largest church gathering, but the largest gathering of humans in South Africa in over three years because they had just come out of lockdown.
So, it was just incredible for their first massive gathering to be a church service and to see what God did. I mean it’s just unbelievable.
I would bet, if that’s the case, because I remember seeing people even six months into all the craziness coming together for gatherings, whether we were doing Constitution classes, worship services, whatever we could do to get people together. And I mean, they would just weep because they had missed the fellowship. God created us and designed us for that. So I can only imagine for them after three years, that had to be incredibly powerful.
Yeah. I think people don’t understand how difficult it was for people to be isolated, to not have connection, and then you throw in the fact that they haven’t been to church, a source of encouragement and strength and hope. And so yeah, I mean, there’s just a lot of pin up.
I mean, people are just weeping like we’re experiencing. We still experience a lot of that in our city, but definitely in South Africa, you can feel that.
Now what’s next for you? Are you continuing to do those events across the US as well?
Yeah, we were just in Syracuse, New York, on Saturday, we had a couple of thousand people there. And we’re heading over to Boise, Idaho next week. And after Idaho, we’re going to go to Seattle, then Spokane, then Austin, Philadelphia, New York, and then we end our whole year with our flagship event on the National Mall in Washington, DC. October 22nd.
Nice. Okay, best place for people to follow you and find out information about how they can attend those events.
They can go to letusworship.us, letusworship.us. Or they can go to Seanfeucht.com. Or you obviously look up our social, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram.
Excellent. Alright, we’re going to share both of those, get folks out to these events. What a great time to come together and worship. Now, you had a pretty interesting one in San Francisco.
Yes, San Francisco is always interesting; very interesting there.
Now, you’re still in California or no?
Yes, I am in California.
So talk to us a little bit about what’s happening in California, because I go to a lot of red states and speak, and people have written off California. But when I go to California and speak, I see a fire, man; I see people coming together, excited and motivated, they’re more involved than ever before. What are you seeing over there?
Yeah, I mean, California is a land of historic revival. You have Business street in the early 1900, you have the Jesus People Movement. And yes, it is an intense season. We have a crazy governor.
These lawmakers, I mean, they’re antichrist cult people. They hate the church, hate life, don’t support the family, but are doing their best to try to tear it down.
However, there is a movement rising of really bold and courageous Christians that are not backing down. And we’ve seen that that’s been evidenced. In all the cities we go to, we see thousands of people show up. We had a gathering at the Capital the week after Gavin Newson said, you can’t sing in church, we had 10,000 people show up in Sacramento. It was 115 degree that day, and people did not care. They took a stand to worship God.
And so sometimes you got to face that resistance to see how real people are. And that’s what I find that’s encouraging about a place like California is… In New York, the state that I was just in, there’s immense resistance, and it requires us to be really the people who we say we are going to be. And the songs that we sing and the words that we preach, we got to back it up with our action.
Man, I couldn’t agree more. I think I see that in areas that think they’re not under as much of a boot on the neck of folks, government’s boot on the neck of folks, they tend to not be as concerned or as involved or seeking God’s word for what to do in the culture as people where they’re facing that intense pressure.
I think you’re right. That’s where the revival comes from is more in those areas where there has been, frankly, tyranny against the church over the last couple of years. So, how about you personally, Sean?
What’s next for you, man? What can we tell folks about music coming out, any of those things?
Yes, I just released a brand new book called Bold. And actually, before I got on the interview with you today, I got a press release that it debuted at number one best seller in the nonfiction religious category for July, which is pretty cool.
This is Bold moving forward to faith, not fear?
Yeah. And so that just came out, which obviously, I’m so excited, I poured my heart and soul into that book, and I feel like it’s a real message for America right now specifically. I think we’re not going to make it in the season to come without boldness, without courage.
BOLD: Moving Forward in Faith, Not Fear
And so, anyway, I encourage everybody to pick that up and get it anywhere books are sold, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, you can order off our website.
I also just released a new song called Imago Dei, which is a prolife anthem. Ever since the overturning Roe v. Wade, I’ve really felt like if I could be really honest, I’ve been pretty embarrassed at the church’s response. And I thought there would be 10,000 people dancing in the street.
Pastors were afraid to talk about it. People were afraid to celebrate it. Here I am outside in front of the Supreme Court with my guitar just worshiping with our team. And I felt like the Lord said to just remind people how valuable life is, remind them that they are made in the image, Imago Dei, fearfully and wonderfully made.
So, anyway, that’s what we did and the song has done really well. You can download it or stream it on itunes or Spotify or anywhere. But it’s called Imago Dei. That just did not affect that.
Yes, I think you’re spot on, man. John Cooper had talked on his podcast about that, just the fact that there’s people in the church almost apologizing for Roe v. Wade being overturned instead of celebrating this. You’re right. I mean, I think we should be embarrassed by that part of the church.
Now, obviously, there’s others that are celebrating and pressing the gas and saying, hey, let’s take this back to the States now and fight. So, good timing on that. Okay, we’ll get the links to Seanfeucht.com and then also to Let Us Worship. Sean, I appreciate you coming on, man. Thanks for what you’re doing.
Hey, thank you. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Stay with us, folks. We’ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.
Hi, friends, this is Tim Barton of WallBuilders. This is a time when most Americans don’t know much about American history or even heroes of the faith. And I know oftentimes we, parents, we’re trying to find good content for our kids to read.
If you remember back to the Bible, to the book of Hebrews, it has the faith Hall of Fame where they outline the leaders of faith that had gone before them. Well, this is something that as Americans, we really want to go back and outline some of these heroes, not just of American history, but heroes of Christianity in our faith as well.
I want to let you know about some biographical sketches we have available on our website. One is called The Courageous Leaders collection. And this collection includes people like Abigail Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Francis Scott Key, George Washington Carver, Susanna Wesley, even the Wright brothers. And there’s a second collection called Heroes of History.
In this collection, you’ll read about people like Benjamin Franklin or Christopher Columbus, Daniel Boone, George Washington, Harriet Tubman; friends, the list goes on and on. This is a great collection for your young person to have and read and it’s a providential view of American and Christian history. This is available at www.wallbuilders.com. That’s www.wallbuilders.com.
We Need Boldness
We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thank you for staying with us. Thanks to Sean Feucht for joining us as well.
Back with David and Tim. And you were talking, David, before the interview about him going into these cities that are tough right now. I mean, it’s like going into the lion’s den and ironically name of his new book, ‘Bold’. So I’d say that maybe some of that can rub off on all of us.
It’s definitely something that we need in the culture right now. And it’s great that it’s coming out in a number one position, it’s super fun. Good for him.
Congratulations! Something we probably will try to get and check out at some point when we are able. We have a very long reading list. But man, certainly to see God using and moving through somebody, interested to see what he wrote in that book.
But definitely the example that he’s revealing that somebody just want to be used by God; and dad, as you mentioned, Rick, you repeated, when you have somebody who’s recognizing what Jesus said, that he did not come, the doctor doesn’t come to help those who are healthy, but help those who are sick, he’s come to call the sinners to repentance.
That Sean is going to some of these areas and there are some at times pretty aggressive confrontations and yet in the midst of it God gives them grace and they’re able to continue going and navigating and they’ve continued on to this point.
Worship and Politics
Guys, it’s such an interesting story going back to Sean because he was someone who was at a church and he was a worship leader at church. And what got him involved initially was they saw some of the issues happening in politics and he decides to run for Congress and he lost a congressional bid.
Nonetheless, he decides he still really wants to do something to help make a difference in America and wake people up and help restore faith in the people of America and lead people to faith in this.
One of the things about the Great Awakenings historically is a lot of the people who became significant players in the Great Awakening, they did not start off to be significant players. When George Whitfield starts his first missionary journey, he’s actually going to raise money for an orphanage in Georgia.
And as he’s traveling, he starts to identify there’s all these problems all over everywhere he went, and these people, their attitudes and the way they interacted with other believers, he thought this is crazy. And many other pastors, ministers, saw the same thing.
You can go back to Charles Finney from the Second Great Awakening. Charles Finney was studying to be an attorney, but because back then there was so much reference to the Bible in law books because so many laws were based on principles out of the Bible, he ended up studying the Bible so much that he ends up converting to Christianity and becomes a minister.
But all the point to say is, when you look back at the Great Awakening, some of the people God used in some of the most significant way in the Great Awakening were not people that were setting out to make a difference in a Great Awakening; they were people who got called from whatever position they might have been in. Much like biblical examples, getting in is hiding, threshing wheat inside a building, which is not the best way to thresh wheat at all.
David’s on more or less the back side of the mountain when Samuel comes to anoint brothers, David’s not even called to be one of the options. God chooses and has chosen a lot of people that aren’t always the most likely. But it’s really cool to see in some of these moments how God does raise people up and use them in unlikely ways.
And this is an example of someone who is already in the ministry but recognized the brokenness in culture and wanted to get involved in culture to make a difference. It’s really cool to see how God is raising these people up all over the nation.
Well, folks, we are out of time for today. We’re sure glad you are here with us on WallBuilders Live. As we’re signing off for the day, I want to encourage you to take some action. We talk about these things on the program.
We talk about sometimes very esoteric ideas or philosophical ideas of what makes a nation great, what makes the community great. But all of those ideas actually come down to practical steps that we can each take in our lives to make a difference in other people’s lives and in our country and in the future and restoring liberty and making sure that it’s preserved for future generations.
First action step I’m going to ask you to take today is to start reading through the Bible every year. We make sure we get all the way through every year. And there’s so much there that you’ll learn.
I mean, every time for me, it’s like, wow, I didn’t even remember that was there, or just the way God does it. I mean, He just works it out so that the passage for the day is applicable to whatever’s happening that day in my life or in the culture or things we’re talking about. So please consider doing that.
It’s Time To Be Bold – With Sean Feucht
The Founders’ Bible, I think, is the way to do it. I’m actually going through it this year, kind of with other people by posting every day on social media whatever the reading was for that day. It’s about six pages a day in the Founders’ Bible to get through the whole thing in one year.
And it’s so neat. It’s just incredible reading God’s Word; at the same time, you’re reading these articles about how the Founders read that part of God’s Word and then applied it to the founding of the country or whatever was happening for them at that time. So it’s a great way to study. I encourage you to do that.
Number one, read through the Bible this year. And then number two, host a biblical citizenship class. Actually get people together talking about those faith foundations and how we can restore those things and how we can be force multipliers, how we can actually take our one vote and get other people to vote as well, get other people engaged in the process.
So when you host a biblical citizenship class, you’ll be raising the banner, and I promise you, people will rally around that banner. They’re looking for someone like you to be the catalyst in your community for restoring biblical values and constitutional principles.
You can sign up for free. We don’t charge anyone to become a coach and host a class. We give away the digital workbook to anyone that signs up for your class. So it’s completely free for you to do that. Go to Biblicalcitizens.com. That’s Biblicalcitizens.com. Get your class started today. Thanks for listening. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.