Leftist Values: We continue our special presentation of Dennis Prager”€™s speech about the ideological differences between the political Left and Right and the dangers of Leftism from this year”€™s Pro-Family Legislators”€™ Conference.

Air Date: 12/29/2016

Guests: Dennis Prager, Radio Talk Show Host

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Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture.

This is WallBuilders Live! Where we’re discussing today’s hottest topics on policy, faith, and culture all from a Biblical, historical, and  constitutional perspective.  When you get it from those three angles put together and you’re going to get the right answer to any issue.

Your hosts are David Barton, America’s premier historian our founder and president here at WallBuilders, also best selling author in Warner Times magazine top 25 most influential  American evangelicals. We also have Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor.  And my name is Rick Green, former Texas state representative, author, and a speaker.  You can find out more about our orginization at WallBuilders.com and WallBuildersLive.com.  

Dennis Prager With Prager University

Today we’ve got a special program for you.  We”€™re actually in the middle of several special programs, a four part series from Dennis Prager. He actually joined us a couple of weeks ago at our WallBuilders Legislators Conference. It’s a program where once a year we bring in state reps and senators and give them a chance to exchange ideas and sharpen each other’s countenance and go back home and take some great things to their individual states.

We always have a great lineup of speakers and Dennis Prager was one of those this year. He just did an outstanding job.  We enjoyed it so much we wanted to share it with you, our listeners, here on WallBuilders Live.

Pro Family Legislators Conference

We did the same thing last week with Dr. Frank Turek.  Which if you miss that you could get it in the archives section right now at WallBuildersLive.com. But this particular series is going to take four programs.  So we started two days ago on Tuesday of this week.  And yesterday we got the second part and today we’re getting the third parts.  We’re going to pick up right where we left off yesterday. We won’t get it all in, so tomorrow will be the conclusion.

And after that you can take all four links at our website WallBuildersLive.com. Share it with your friends and your family.  It’s a great opportunity for us to present America’s forgotten history and heroes with an emphasis on our religious, moral, and constitutional heritage.

Let’s pick up where we left off yesterday. Here’s Dennis Prager at the WallBuilders Pro-family Legislators Conference.

California Wants To Secede


It would be awesome. I think California should secede it would be a great. Because they’ll come back when they go bankrupt. That’s all. So it will be fine.  They’ll learn a lesson over 10 years 15 years, then come back. That’s fine. The Left is very lucky it has the best weather in the country. That’s why what California blossoms.  It is very hard to leave such perfect weather.

What the Nazis And the Left Have In Common

Talking about the races now, I want to say this and this. I will say this in part as a Jew who has written a well-received book on anti-Semitism.  There has not been a race based ideology like American Leftism since the Nazis. I’m not comparing the Left to Nazis.  They don’t want concentration camps.  They don’t want mass death.  There’s no comparison in that way.

I’m merely stating a fact. The last ideology to be as race based as the American Left were the Nazis in Germany. It’s not a comparison.  It”€™’s a historical statement. The Nazis said race matters. The Left says race matters. American values say, “€œRace is utterly and totally irrelevant because we were all created in God’s image and God has no color.”€ It is so basic.  It is so utterly basic to our outlook.

The Proof

By the way, I have proof. I know some of you are from Colorado. The Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Colorado was black. Guess who voted for him? White Conservatives! If white Conservatives were racist, why would they vote for a black Conservative? That’s all that matters. (Audience applauds) I have asked audiences of a thousand or more Conservatives, so applaud on the following. I’m not asking you to do it,  you can if you like. That’s not my point. I just want to give you this hilarious but very powerful argument.

So I look at a thousand Conservatives and say, “€œI am offering you two Supreme Courts.  One of them consists of nine, white, male, church attending Leftists the other consists of nine, black, lesbian, single, non churchgoing Conservatives. Which Supreme Court do you vote for?”€ I do not get one clap for the first group. All the so called racist Conservatives will take black lesbians if they’re conservative.

Trump To Blacks, “€œWhat Has The Left Done For You?”€

Of course, because we’re ideologically driven. What is better for America? If you think in white/black terms you don’t belong on the Right. It’s as simple as that. To Trump’s credit, he did do what I had begged all of my 33 years in broadcasting, every Republican presidential candidate to go to the black community. And he said, “€œExactly right. What do you have to lose?”€ Those were his words. “€œThat’s exactly right. Tell us, what exactly has the Left, the Democrats, done for you? If you have a list, then vote for them. If you don’t have a list, then give me a try.”€  It’s unbelievable.

The Left Is Ruining My Country, That Is All I Need to Know

We had a race in California. We didn’t even have a Republican running for the U.S. Senate in California. Two Democrats. And by the way, at least I voted for Loretta Sanchez. So I can now say to anyone who says, “€œPrager, did you ever vote for a Democrat?”€ Yeah, Senate just this past year, U.S. Senate.”€ Because she was the lesser of two evils.

By the way, the lesser of two evils. You know people who opposed that Trump and I opposed Trump in the primaries.  I admit it.  And you could read my columns, National Review and elsewhere. But I said from the beginning, if he’s the nominee I will support him because the Left is ruining my country. That’s all I need to know.

The Lesser Of Two Evils Produces Good

So anyway, yes, he is the lesser of two evils.  So people would call my show or I would read comments on my columns or just hear, “€œWell the lesser of two evils is still evil.”€ No. The lesser of two evils produces good.

If a doctor tells you that you have to amputate your leg or you will die is an amputation of a leg an evil?  Yep. Is dying and evil? Yep. But the amputation is the lesser of two evils. Therefore, it’s good.

Immigrants Don’t Vote For What You Fled

This is all common sense.  It is just common sense. We are in this war and we must appeal. This I do believe, we must appeal to Blacks and Hispanics. We have a video up by a wonderful, attractive, and bright Guatemalan journalist. We flew her to L.A. to make the video both in English and in Spanish. There were millions of views, all of the videos go into the many millions. And the name of her video in English and Spanish is Immigrants Don’t Vote For What You Fled. That’s that’s the message.

Avalon Project


Hey guys this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders.  And I know you hear my dad and Rick talk a lot about our Founding Fathers about the original intent of our nation, a constitutional heritage that we have. And really we’ve seen how far we slipped away from that. And I know a lot of us as we hear my dad and Rick talk think, “€œI wish there was a place that I could go where I could see these documents and I could read and learn about the Founding Fathers firsthand.  See the things they did.”€  

I want to give you some websites today that can help you accomplish that very thing. If you get online you can go to places like Library of Congress and you can look under their century of lawmaking or historical documents. You can go to the Avalon Project, to the Founders Constitution, Google Books, or even the internet archives.  

Or you can just go to WallBuilders.com. We have a section for our library. And under that section we have different subgroups for historical documents, historical writings, even a place where you can get helpful links to find out more information about other websites.  Where you can do research for yourself and find the truth for yourself. Friends, this is the time that we need to know who we are and where we came from. WallBuilders.com is a great place to go.

Pope”€™s Catholic Theology and Leftist Values


The issue isn”€™t ethnicity.  It”€™s Latin American values.  It’s not Latin Americans. I’ve been to almost every country in South and Central America. I love these people. Everyone who visits wants to go back.  It’s a blast being with Latin Americans. They’re lively there and everything you could imagine.

Every time I am in Puerto Rico, every time I drove by a birthday party they would invite us in. It doesn’t matter.  They have left wing values.  Look at the pope! The pope has Catholic theology and left wing values because he’s from Latin America. They bring left wing values.  

A 27 year old Venezuelan watching Prager University videos in Caracas called my show, because it’s on the Internet, called my show.  And he said, “€œDennis, I wanted to thank you. I had never encountered a conservative idea before I watched your videos.”€ And it’s true.  They’ve never encountered our ideas.  Our- yours and mine, never. And then he told me something I didn’t realize.  He said, “€œDo you want to know how bad it is? You know how bad Maduro the successor to Chavez here in Venezuela.  Do you know that the opposition to Maduro is also socialist? In other words, Maduro’s the wrong Socialist not Socialism is wrong. Maduro is wrong and that’s how we run races as Republicans.

(Republicans think) “€œIt”€™s not Leftism in the Democratic Party, which is the vehicle of Leftism in America. It’s my opponent.”€ Your opponent is irrelevant. Not to you, I fully understand that. But in the larger scheme.  And that’s how every Republican needs to clarify the battle for this country and for your state.

These Three Values Work For Everyone

It’s so much larger than my opponents! We must defeat that party, that ideology and that’s what kids need to hear.  That’s what adults need to hear. That’s all you have to say to Blacks.  There is no special Black platform. Conservatism works for everybody. It’s Americanism, it’s not even Conservatism, Americanism. Those three values work for everybody.

The third one is e pluribus unum, “€œOut of many, one.”€ Where I grew up, I went to a Jewish parochial school in Brooklyn, New York. You can’t get more parochial than that. All right? And we were taught the melting pot. In a Jewish school, all Jews, Jewish teachers, Orthodox Jews, and we were taught the American ideal is the melting pot. Because no one ever understood that you give up your distinctiveness in the melting pot.  What? The minute– you give up Judaism to become an American? It never occurred to anybody. You are what you are, but we’re all American.

That’s the reason this country is great. But now that the Left has distorted everything on racial grounds, Hispanics voted for Sanchez. Blacks voted for Harris. And that’s it. That’s it. And we’re proud of that. Who has the Latin vote? Who has the this vote? Who has the that vote?

These Statistics Are Making Me Optimistic  

These are the arguments you have to make. It would appeal– by the way, to young people –believe it or not, I was pessimistic.  I’m more optimistic, not only because of the election. I’m more optimistic because of the statistic I told you. The biggest single group of the 150 million is under 35. Do you know that in five minutes you can shatter all the Leftism they learned in school because they didn’t learn anything.

It’s very important for you to know that.  You could undo their thinking on minimum wage in five minutes. Would you hire more workers if you could pay $8 an hour rather than $15 an hour?  Wouldn’t you? Of course, I would! By the way, why stop at $15? Just make the point, let us say the minimum wage were $100 an hour.  That’s a really great wage. Why would you be against that?  Ask a young person,  “€œWhat is wrong with the $100 minimum wage?”€

“€œPeople would go out of business.”€

“€œThank you.”€ That’s the whole point isn’t it? We are on the side of the poor.  We are on the side of the disenfranchised.  We are on the side of the little guy.

This Is The Great Fight, America Rides On Your Shoulders

This is the great fight.  You may not realize, this is it. I can expect people to realize because you deal with the truly day to day issues of your state, and the day to day issues of campaigning, and of course, everybody has their personal issues.

But I really came here to remind you that America rides on your shoulders. And when you make these arguments, you have to tell the constituents that this is much bigger than our race. It is the direction of our state. What will we be? And ultimately, therefore, the direction of our country.

DVD On Common Core

Hi friends! This is David Barton of WallBuilders. The current condition of education in America is abysmal. Not only is educational achievement plummeting, but every year, some 19 percent of high school seniors who graduate is completely illiterate. They can”€™t read at all but it was not always this way.

For generations, we taught students how to think. But after the progressives took over education in the early 20th century, things began to radically change. Education shifted from thinking to learning, which made the emphasis on the teachers rather than the students. And that elevated indoctrination above knowledge.
At that time, progressives also made massive changes in the way we tested students. They extended school from 8 to 12 years. They introduced graded education and they added compulsory education. Statistics prove that these changes have harmed education rather than helped it. And now the progressives are pushing common core.
In our new DVD on common core, we give you eight reasons why this current approach is so dangerous to our kids and our culture. We also show you an amazing history of education. So get this new DVD at WallBuilders.com.

If You Win, You Win America


I am honored to be here. What David Barton has done is just just phenomenal. What you’re doing, this whole thing is a great achievement. You have a lot of allies. I’m one of them, obviously. And I want you to know that we’re rooting for you because if you win, you don’t just win your district, you win America. Thank you very much. (Crowd Applauds)  

Wow! I didn’t expect that. Thank you. Thank you so much. It”€™s the last thing expected, to this day I’m always a little embarrassed by standing ovations. I always think of the story with Stalin, this is true because when I studied communist affairs then–I am stopping now because I want to take questions. I want to have you interact with me.

Stalin”€™s Standing Ovation Until They Bled

But Stalin, this is a true story, there was applause after a speech Stalin gave to the Politburo. You know, the the Rubber Stamp Parliament of the Soviet Union. So they stood up and they applauded. And everyone applauding understood they couldn’t be the first to stop applauding. And sure enough, this is actually you know, this is not mythology- the guy who stopped first was shipped to the gulag. Men were applauding and they were starting to bleed in their hands from doing this so loud and so long until they would be given a signal to stop.

Same thing in North Korea today. These are unbelievable things. Anyway, whenever people give me a standing ovation, I always think of Stalin”€™s story and I feel for your hands. So, it’s just very silly, but it made an impact on me. Alright, whatever you would like to raise, please feel free to do so.

Q And A

Michigan State Senator:

I am a state senator from my state of the state of Michigan. We take a little longer to count things in Michigan, thanks to common core.  Which you’re talking about education, I appreciate that. You nailed it. And in regards to the idea of getting out there and if you get five minutes of airtime on Conservatism in the classroom you can destroy a decade worth of Leftist teaching.

Common Core

We found this out in the state of Michigan.  We are working on social studies standards and all we had was two criteria where we talk about what standards should be. Is it politically neutral and it’s accurate.

And you nailed that, as long as we have the other side of the voice in here you had the Conservative voice in there, they can”€™t hold a torch to it. So we make great progress because they’ve been in the echo chamber for so long. So I want to amplify what you’re saying because it really is a matter of us putting that foot out on the water and the Red Sea will part.

I appreciate it and by the way, on social media, I love to have Prager University week where every day we have a different topic that we put out there. So your five minute videos are extremely valuable. Thank you.


Well great, thank you.

California Is The Biggest Purchaser Of Textbooks, Affecting All States

I want to talk about education for  just a moment.  In California, which is the laboratory of the Left. Please let me say that.  There is no opposition.  There is not. Just like that, we had two senatorial candidates.  Both were Democrats both were on the left,just one is a lesser evil than the other. So they could do anything they want.

Years ago. This is not even new.  It was about five years ago I guess, they passed a law that California textbooks –and that therefore, affects every one of your states.  Because we’re the biggest purchaser of textbooks in the United States obviously because of the biggest population. California textbooks on American history must include the contributions of gays.

Now, what does that mean?  Really, what does that mean? They already had of women, of Hispanics, you know whatever category of people, the disabled, now they added gays.

This is anti-truth in a history of classical music.  No one would have to say you have to include the contributions of gays because Tchaikovsky, one of the greatest composers, everybody knows was gay. Is there any textbook that ever omitted Tchaikovsky because he was gay? If you write a book of great composers Tchaikovsky is in it. There was no need to assert the contribution of gays.

Facts VS Feelings

That’s like saying the contribution of Jews to the signing of the Declaration of Independence. There were very few Jews there. I’m ok with that. We’ll, now we have the contribution of Muslims. What are you talking about? The people who made this country tended to be white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestants.  That’s a fact.  All that matters is facts.

The purpose of a textbook is not to make your group feel good. It is to tell the truth. And that’s your argument.  Is it to make kids feel good about their group? Or is it to tell the truth? Answer me Madam or Mr. Leftist here in the state legislature.

Bring A Speaker To Your Area

Hey, this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders.  And as you’ve had the opportunity to listen to WallBuilders Live, you’ve probably heard a wealth of information about our nation, about our spiritual heritage, about the religious liberties, and about all the things that makes America exceptional. And you might thinking, “€œAs incredible as this information is, I wish there was a way that I could get one of the WallBuilders guys to come to my area and share with my group.”€

Whether it be a church, whether it be a Christian school, or public school, or some political event, or activity, if you’re interested in having a WallBuilders speaker come to your area, you can get on our website at www.WallBuilders.com and there’s a tab for scheduling. If you”€™ll click on that tab, you’ll notice there’s a list of information from speakers bio’s, to events that are already going on. And there’s a section where you can request an event, to bring this information about who we are, where we came from, our religious liberties, and freedoms. Go to the WallBuilders website and bring a speaker to your area.

Obamacare Vs The Price Of Gas

Tom From Minnesota:

My name is Tom and I am from Minnesota. You’re welcome to move there for $10,000 in taxes. We”€™ll increase your taxes rather than decrease it. *Laughter


All I could say, Sir, the state that elects Al Franken is really on the part of the state that elected Barbara Boxer. ( crowd laughs) Forgive me, forgive me.

Tom From Minnesota:

We seem to be getting closer all the time. But anyway, one of the examples I used in my own election and as far as Obamacare was concerned is I contrast that and the cost of health care and government’s involvement in health care with the price of gas. And what if the government had gone into the energy industry and said, “€œYou can only drill for oil this way and no other way.”€ We’d never developed fracking.

And the politicians running around saying, “€œPeak oil!  Peak oil!  Peak oil!”€ turned out to be buffoons. American ingenuity and technology and the private sector competition now has created such a glut of oil that the price has gone down to about $2. If we’d allowed the government to go in like they did in healthcare and say, “€œYou”€™ve got to only to do it this way and in no other way,”€and micromanage the whole thing.  Which they tried to do a lot of damage that way, anyway. We”€™d probably have $7-8 a gallon  for gas. So that’s a current example that even Liberals have a hard time contesting

Conservatives Care About Environment


And by the way, if Hillary Clinton had won, we would end up with $7-8. It would be mandated because it’s it’s a fossil fuel. And there is a war against fossil fuels, which I think is an ill advised war.  I’m as concerned about the planet. Who is not concerned about the planet? We all live on the planet.

The idea that Conservatives don’t care about clean water, I mean think about it. I go into a restaurant and say, “€œI’m a Conservative and I have a glass of dirty water?”€ I mean the idiocies that they charge us with. We don’t raise the same children with the same desire to have healthy children. But they’re fanatical.

Leftism Is A Hysteria Based System

And by the way, there’s another thing you should know about the Left. I could speak all day about the Left and that’s why I do recommend that book to you.  I won”€™t get rich from it, so it’s not an advertisement.  But I really do.  Still the best hope.

In any event, Leftism is a hysteria based system.  It’s hysteria. And by the way, I am proud to tell you -I am bragging right now. So brag alert.  There is a safe room in the back for those of you who feel the necessity. The very week the audiotape of the groping boasts of Donald Trump came out I wrote, “€œWe are in the midst of a hysteria.”€  And I never spoke that way.  My boys would never speak that way.  It”€™s a separate issue. It was still hysteria and it turned out to be true. And the Republicans who then announced, “€œI can’t support Donald Trump,”€ lost. How Ironic.

Dennis Prager, Prager University


Well we’re out of time for today folks you’ve been listening to Dennis Prager speaking at the Pro-family Legislators Conference. That was the third part today in a four part series. So tomorrow we get the conclusion. If you missed it and maybe you tuned in halfway through today or you missed yesterday or the day before, all of that is available right now at WallBuildersLive.com.

Dennis’ message was incredibly powerful and inspiring to all of us as citizens to do our part. It was especially powerful to those legislators. But it applies to every single one of us that can play a part in preserving our our constitutional republic.  Actually restoring it.  A lot of restoration needs to take place as well.

Hey, you don’t want to miss tomorrow.  We’re going to have the conclusion.  We’ll pick up right where we left off with Dennis Prager today, here on WallBuiders Live.