President Trump And Restoring Patriotic Education And More – This is an exciting day for good news! Americans have more to unite them than to divide them, do not be a victim of the culture. Marxism is not an option, President Trump is saying NO to cultural Marxism! Tune in to hear more!

Air Date: 10/09/2020

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton

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Rick:

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It’s Good News Friday, which means we are looking at good news out there. David and Tim have been collecting these stories and waiting until Friday to pile them on. I’m looking for some good news today. I’m excited about getting some good news. So David, where are we starting with our good news today?

David:

Well, we’re going to head to something President Trump did recently and announcing the 1776 Commission. That was part of what he called the need to restore patriotic education. And that flies really counter to what is happening with BLM and Antifa and the protest and others that are attacking America, how bad America is, etc. He sees a very different picture.

And so Rasmussen polls took two of his statements from President Trump’s, statements when he’s talking about America being a good nation and America, you know, we got our flaws, for sure, but still America compared to other nations is much better. And they took two of his statements and asked people, do you agree or disagree with the statement? So let me read you the first statement.

President Trump said, “Together, we are part of one of the greatest stories ever told, the story of America. It is the epic tale of a great nation whose people have risked everything for what they know is right.” Now, given that statement, what percentage of the nation do you think would agree with that statement? We’re a great nation, we risk everything for what we know is right, we’re one of the greatest stories ever told, what percentage do you think of the nation would agree with that statement?

Rick:

Well, it ought to be 95%. But knowing our education system, I’m not going to go that high. Tim.

Tim:

Yeah. I mean, based on what you see around you, you would think it’s probably less than 50% that would feel that way, just based on the climate and the riots and the protests and the division. But knowing it’s Good News Friday, you got to think okay, so it’s got to be better than 50%. But how high, maybe 60, maybe low 70s.

David:

See, I look at this and think of the Howard Zinn stuff that came into the 80s, and how that’s really kind of dominated secular education now, how bad America is. Tim, the debate you’ve had with professors that America has done more evil than she’s done good, and what we’re seeing with BLM, etc. I thought the numbers would be low as well. So I’m really surprised and really pleased to say that 73% of all voters, not just Americans, but 73% of all voters agreed with President Trump’s statement. So that’s one of the statements they asked.

The second statement about President Trump, this is a statement he made. He said, “The only path to unity is to rebuild shared national identity focused on common American values and virtues of which we have plenty. This includes restoring patriotic education in our nation’s schools where they’re trying to change everything that we’ve learned.”

So I think what he’s articulated here is two really different views. A whole lot of what I hear in the academic view is America doesn’t have all this great stuff in common. We’re all different and that’s what makes us great, because there’s really nothing in common. We have different communities and so we need to be different. The other says, no, no, we have differences. But what makes us great is our shared identity and values, our shared beliefs. And so he’s kind of articulating, what I see as a real split that’s been there over the last 20 to 30 years.

So the view he has, that we’re great, because of all the things we share in common, not because of all the things that we have in differences. How many people would actually disagree with his statement do you think that we’re great because of what we have in common?

Rick:

Well, as a general enough statement. You’re probably going to get more agreement. I think we’ve looked at blank stares when we tell people that the school system is dividing us for a long time. But this year, I think more and more people are starting to understand that, so they’re wanting us to talk more about what unifies us. So I think probably pretty good, probably in that 50% range.

David:

Well, as it turns out, only 30% disagree with that and that is a number much lower than what I would have suspected. I would have suspected much more, would say no, what makes us great is how different we are rather than our shared values. So this kind of goes to, Rick, you mentioned even education, what’s been taught in education, which kind of leads me to the rest of this good news side.

Tim:

And by the way, just to clarify. So this notion of what makes people great, because they’re different, is not appreciating that God made us different and when we come together with our differences, we can make America better. What the argument from some people, is that we should never come together, and everybody be independent, everybody be different, and there shouldn’t be a unifying force.

So when we’re saying that they celebrate that everybody’s different, it’s not that we celebrate differences in the sense that God made us different and we appreciate the way that God made us different. They’re saying no, no, culturally, we want there to be lots of different cultures in America, and there shouldn’t be one America, like, there shouldn’t be one national anthem, there should be lots of national anthems for America, or there shouldn’t be a level of unity. And that’s what President Trump has been arguing for, so just to clarify that notion of diversity. There’s a lot of places where diversity is very good. But in the sense of what academia and a lot of people on the Left are saying is that there shouldn’t be something that unifies us, we should stay as independent and separate and different as possible, and not actually become one America.

Rick:

And I got to say, guys, I mean, I don’t always, sometimes, David, you’ll teach on something that has, I’ve never heard anybody teach on before and I’ll have to sit back and go well, I don’t know if I see that yet. This is one of those things. 10 years ago, maybe more than that, it might have been more than 10 years ago, when you were influencing, you know, you were advising on the history textbook, textbooks in Texas, you were already identifying this effort to tear us apart, separate us and leave us separated and you started talking about, out of many one E Pluribus Unum is what we’re supposed to be doing, we’re doing the opposite. And nobody else was talking about. I just want to point this out. Nobody else was talking about it back then.

And now here we are 10 years later, and it is the focal point issue. You nailed it 10 years ago, you saw this coming. And now the president is saying exactly what you said 10 years ago, both with his 1776 Commission, and with his executive order to say no on the critical race theory being taught, which is just the culmination of all the things you were speaking out against 10 years ago. So I don’t know if that made any sense to you guys.

As this has been happening in the last couple weeks, I’ve been thinking, wait a minute, David was talking about this back in the textbook fights a decade ago and everybody would look with blank stares, including me going oh, are you sure they really do…? And now wow, man, I mean, anyway, kudos to you for seeing it, for fighting it for this long, and I’m so glad we got a president that’s willing to take. I mean, these are huge steps he’s taken. He’s saying no to this cultural Marxism that has been planted in our education system for years.

David:

And the good news is that polling shows that the American people are largely with him in the steps he’s taking.

Rick:

Alright, quick break, guys, we’ll be back. We’ve got more good news for you folks. As bad as some of this stuff has been over the last few years in our education system, think about the fact that it’s coming to light. You know, it’s what’s up the whole Bill Bennett thing about sunlight is the best disinfectant. We’re getting truth out there. Stay with us, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. The second amendment to the Constitution which guarantees to every individual the right to keep and bear arms has been targeted for years now by those who are determined to dismantle the individual right to self-protection.

Opponents argue that only the militia, the military, and law enforcement are to have and used firearms. But those who wrote the Second Amendment strenuously disagreed, including founding father Richard Henry Lee, a signer of the Declaration, a president of the Continental Congress, and one of those who actually framed the Second Amendment. He declared, “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young how to use them.”

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Rick:

Welcome back to WallBuilders Live, it’s Good News Friday today and long segments first segment today, guys, but very, very critical, and these are big, big steps and big good news items that we’re talking about here. I’m so thankful we got a president that is saying the exact same thing, David, you’ve been saying for, I said a decade, really for decades, but I mean, specifically to this whole idea of not dividing us, but actually unifying us and coming back to our motto of E Pluribus Unum.

David:

Well, it goes to the teaching we have in the Bible of the body is made up of many different parts, and they’re all very distinct and different from each other. But what makes the body great is they all cooperate and help each other. And so while the nose is not the eye, and the eye is not the elbow, the elbow is not the toe, they’re all needed, they’re all important, and it’s the unity is more important than the difference.

Tim:

And it’s one of the things too, that even Paul who writes about that there are different parts of the body, Paul is also the guy that says that in Christ, there is no Jew or Greek, there’s no male or female, right; there’s no slave or free, we are all one in Christ. He sees the unity where it comes together. And this is part of what has been very lost in America is we’re not seeing where we come together. What we have in common, it hasn’t been promoted and taught.

I mean, Rick, you pointed out in the last segment that more than a decade ago, dad, you were talking about this kind of stuff. And we saw it some in universities, we’ve seen it, I mean, really since kind of the Howard’s in the 80s, it’s been very manifest and areas but it hasn’t become as culturally prevalent until more recent times. And now we’ve certainly seen it over the last couple years, so it’s great to have a president saying guys, let’s not get carried away and forget that as Americans, we have a lot more in common than we do that divides us. And it’s really great again, to have that acknowledgement.

David:

Let me kind of throw in a lesson here I’ve learned off the ranch just in working on the ranch. One of the things that we go through on the ranch is fighting really kind of predatory weeds that want to take over our pastures and destroy the ranch. And so there’s a time of the year where we go through and fight thistles and then it’s milkweed, and then it is cockleburs and then the latter part of the year, it’s all the mosquitoes that are popping up all over the ground everywhere trying to take over the pasture and make it into a mosquito patch. So those are things we look for. And so we will go throughout the year with the four wheelers and doing spot spraying; as we see these things, we just want to wipe them out. If you miss them one year, the next year, they kind of take over the field.

So what happens is I’ve gotten aware that as I’m in that time of the year where I’m looking for something particular, I can drive down the road and all the ranches around us and all the country around us, all the nice heels that we’ve gotten, all the great trees and all the beautiful pastures and all the creeks and things we have, I don’t see them all because I see that cocklebur out in the middle of that thousand acre patch. Or I’ll see three little mosquitoes coming up over here in 400 acres or whatever.

And I think in some ways, we really get to the point in America, we start looking at small things, and we miss all the big things because we’re focused on the small things, and we can focus on racism. And yes, it does exist, and yes, it has existed, and by the way, it will continue to exist as long as humans are alive. But we focus on that and miss all the rest of the pasture, all the rest of the scenery, all the rest of the stuff, whether there’s great things happening.

Tim:

And to clarify too. Racism, this is not something we’re talking about that a nation that is behaving in a racist ways, right? Where you could talk about back before the Civil Rights movement, the 60s, then you could argue there was some levels of institutional racism, because there were institutions that actually were racist, that there really were some of these things. But then those laws…

Rick:

60 years ago.

Tim:

Right. Those laws were passed and changed and so now we’re no longer in that place. And so even though, dad, you’re acknowledging there, racism does exist, but it exists in the hearts of individuals. And if it exists in the nation, you need to fix those problems in the nation. But America is largely fixed, the national, the institutional, the cultural issues of the nation. Now, it absolutely is much more of a sin heart problem.

And to your point, it’s easy, when the only thing you try to focus on is finding where there was a racist moment that happened, you’re going to find it because when there’s more than 330 million people in your nation, and sin impacts every single one of them. Yeah, you’ll find some sinful people doing sinful things. But you might miss the forest, because you focus on that one tree the whole time, and you miss the big picture of really something special that is there.

Rick:

Yeah. And that’s the real difference between the systemic racism, that phrase that’s being used to describe us today, which doesn’t apply today, but did apply in the 60s because the racist Democrat Party was still doing white only primaries, and still doing segregation and standing in the door of the schoolhouse, and all of those things. But that has changed so much, we’ve moved so far in 60 years.

And for Trump to highlight the difference between the critical race theory that’s being taught in our schools and in the federal government and in all the government programs, and for him to be willing to do this executive order and say that hateful stuff is not going to be taught, there is a difference between “diversity or sensitivity versus this critical race theory”, you know, I realized anyway, Chris Wallace and Joe Biden tried to downplay it in the debate and say, oh, we’re just teaching people to respect each other. That’s an absolute lie.

I mean, they’re teaching people to hate each other, and that critical race theory is all about America is not fixable if I can use a country boy term here, that it can’t be fixed. That it is so bad, and so racist, it can’t be fixed, so it’s got to be destroyed. We’ve been teaching that in our government programs, and we’re still teaching in our schools.

And this President has the courage to stand up and say no to that, knowing that they’re going to call him a racist for it because they’re going to redefine all the terms, I think that’s some of the greatest courage I’ve seen. I mean, this thing kind of went unnoticed, the fact that he did this executive order, I think, is one of the most important things he’s done.

Tim:

It really is one of the more important things for the future of the nation, knowing how many kids go through education or even government institutions, where they were being trained to look for things that we’re not there, to pretend that instead of there being a presumption of innocence, to presume that if something happened, there is automatically initial blame and fault on one category. The whole system is very evil. It is very corrupt. It’s not a justice.

When we’re talking about this critical race theory, and it very much as part of the Marxist ideology too, going back to critical theory, or critical race theory, or critical monetary theory, all of the critical theory is rooted in Marxism, which is about destroying the status quo of a nation so you can replace what is the status quo with the new order government that you want to come in with. And so we see the attacks on capitalism, we see the attacks on race and relationships, we see the attacks on America in general. And this is all part of the Marxist playbook, which again, so grateful the President Trump came out and said, yeah, we’re not doing that anymore.

Rick:

Good stuff, guys. A quick break, guys, we’ll be back with more good news. Stay with us, folks. By the way, a lot of great news on our website, if you just go to your website wallbuilderslive.com, you can jump in the archive section there and get some of our previous Friday programs. And frankly, most of our programs are good news shows because we’ve got that optimistic outlook, and we realize duty is ours, results are God’s and we’re going to keep doing our duty. And we’re seeing some great results in the culture. So stay with us, we’ll be right back on WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live final segment of good news today. David, what’s our last piece? Or maybe you could squeeze in more than one piece here in our final segment.

David:

Well, it goes back to something that I saw on a tweet, and it’s an interesting kind of a tweet, because it’s a response to a previous tweet. So Nick Ron put out this tweet, and it shows a picture. And he says, “Protesters build a guillotine outside of Jeff Bezos house.”

Yesterday, the Amazon billionaire was reported to become the first man worth 200 billion. So he is a free market guy, he’s worth 200 billion and the protesters are outside his house building a guillotine. The tweet in response to that is Chicago Teachers Union. They say we are completely in support of wherever this is headed.

Now, that’s an amazing statement to make from a group of teachers, to see something like that outside that person’s house, and their full thing said, we’re completely frightened by, completely impressed by and completely in support of wherever this is headed. It’s like, are you kidding me? I mean, you’re the ones who educate the next generation, and this is kind of that critical race theory, where that were completely in support of protesters who want to put up a guillotine outside a very successful guy’s house. And that’s the kind of stuff that we’re seeing come out of teachers groups. And overwhelmingly, the teachers unions have been opposed to having school start again, they didn’t want school start again.

So all of that, here’s the good news in all this. A poll out from Real Clear Opinion Research, and since this is a poll done just a few weeks ago, and it goes back to comparing to its previous poll back in April. Now in April, we were just getting started in the COVID stuff. And so from April, now, here we are four months later, and they’re re-polling on the question. And the question is, what do you think about school choice? Do you think that government funds for education should be used for homeschooling or public schooling or Christian schools or all schools, where are you on school choice?

And I think, and by the way, the numbers really jumped, they jumped 10 points in the last four months. The support for school choice, including homeschool, and Christian school is now up to 77%. I think a lot of that is due to what people have seen in COVID, that kind of craziness has come out with those kind of tweets from teachers union. But now we’re looking at really wide support across the nation, even 63% of Democrats think that we should have full school choice or that all forms of education are being funded. That’s a real turnaround. I mean, that’s a huge increase in just four months.

Rick:

Yeah, that’s the kind of numbers that hopefully we can turn into law, right? If that many support it, that that can then get reflected in state legislators that those legislators will say, wait a minute, if 77 or 75% are for this, then it needs to happen in our state. Now, we’ve seen some states have, I mean, Texas has had 60% for a long time and still had trouble getting it through. But man, when you get to 77, I mean, that’s going to be difficult to stop even for the teachers unions with hundreds of millions of dollars,

David:

Well, that they are probably the chief opponent of this in Texas. We got up to 68% of the state wanted school choice for everybody, and it was teachers, educational groups in Texas that stop that, because for rural legislators, the biggest employer in a lot of those towns school district. And the school district, we even had a law here in Texas in the last session that said, hey, we want to allow educational choice for handicapped kids, for those who have serious disabilities that they can go to wherever they can find the best help for them in education.

And by the way, as part of that, the State was going to give the public schools hundreds of millions of dollars more. And the schools got together and said we’re refusing the hundred millions of dollars, because we don’t want any kind of school choice even for handicapped kids; because if you start having school choice, you’re going to allow for everybody and we’re willing to give up hundreds of millions of dollars rather than allow that to happen. So it continues to be professional educational groups that that oppose competition, they don’t want the competition, you can understand why. But it’s really healthy for America to have competition.

Tim:

And also point out, right, this is not a critique on teachers who are part of a teacher’s union, because we have a lot of good friends who are teachers, and they’re part of those teachers unions at times. And so sometimes, people think, well, you’re thrown out a baby with the bathwater. No, no, we’re trying to save the baby. We’re just recognizing this is dirty bathwater, right? When we’re recognizing we want to help the teachers, we want to help the students and we want to do what benefits them the most. And sometimes we see the unions are more interested in protecting and preserving their union.

And sometimes what they feel for themselves as a monopoly, that they’re able to control the system and how the system works and what the system does, instead of recognizing competition. Where even in some of these failing school districts, one of the things we know just historically across the board is that when there is competition, it tends to improve things or make things better, or sometimes it shuts down the things that are not good. But if it’s not good, then maybe it doesn’t need to keep running, if it’s not going to get better in the first place. And this is where it should be a little bit of self-explanation, like, oh, I see how that works. I get it. But there’s just such a pushback from teachers union so often.

Again, not a critique on so many teachers out there who are listening, man, we love you, we appreciate you, we’re praying God to use you in great ways. But one of the best things for teachers and students is certainly recognizing school choice. And it’s great that we’re having a nation awaken to this idea that competition and choice might be the better direction to go.

Rick:

Alright, fellows, we are out of time for good news today, there’s more good news at our website, wallbuilderslive.com. So everybody that’s listening today, if you want more, go to wallbuilderslive.com and get it.

David, Tim, thank you for all of that good news that you shared today, looking forward to next Friday and more good news. Throughout the week, you can get great interviews on hot topics of the day, so be sure to tune in next week. We got several great interviews. We’re going to be talking about what’s happening in the election, what we can do as Christians and I’m really going to challenge pastors to step up in these last few weeks of the election and make sure that the church’s voice is heard in the culture.

We sure appreciate you listening today. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.