NRA Gains More Members After Leftists Attack Gun Rights, Good News Friday

NRA Gains More Members After Leftists Attack Gun Rights:Â We call it Good News Friday because it’s a chance for David and Tim to share some good news from across the nation and around the world. We don”t often hear good news from the media, but here on WallBuilders Live we are about to share with you just some of the good things happening right now. In this episode, we talk about howÂ Georgia’s Lt. Gov. fires back at Delta for their stand against the NRA. A huge victory for free speech against Planned Parenthood. How a Mayor left the Democratic Party because it”s so radically pro-abortion! And more!

Air Date:Â 03/09/2018

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Faith And The Culture

Rick:

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. Â This is WallBuilders Live! Where we talk about today”s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture. Always from a biblical, historical, and Constitutional perspective.

We’re here with David Barton, America’s premier historian and the founder of WallBuilders. Also, Tim Barton, he”s national speaker, pastor, and the president of WallBuilders. And my name is Rick Green, I’m a former Texas state legislator.

I’m excited about today, it’s Good News Friday! It’s our chance to catch up on a lot of good news that has probably not been covered by most of the major media. In fact, I always love Good News Friday because David and Tim find all these stories I haven’t heard about either, so it’s a great day to really find out. There are some good things happening, sort of an encouragement going into your weekend.

You can find out more about us and the program and even get some of the archives of the last few weeks by going to our websites. The first one is WallBuildersLive.com – that’s our radio site. And then WallBuilders.com is our main site where there is a wealth of information and tools for you and your family. Be sure and get some of those and share them and help others to become better citizens as well.

David, Tim, looking forward to today. Let’s start with some good news. I think David’s up first.

David:

I’m going to start with some aftermath and the follow up of the Florida school shootings. On the business side, there are a lot of national companies that have affiliates with whom they do business and they give those affiliates certain discounts and whatever. Some of that is if you’re an NRA member you get a discount on renting cars from various car companies, or you get a discount on your airline ticket etc.

Do You Remember Last Friday?

David:

Well, since all the nonsense and the media coverage of the school shooting– by the way, just to refresh last week on Good News Friday we pointed out that national polling is showing that for those who actually have kids in school, and who followed closely the shooting in Florida, only 23 percent of those parents with kids in school think that we need more gun control laws. The rest of them put the blame elsewhere, which is the right place to put the blame.

Rick:

Which is very surprising. We talked last week about this is on the heels of almost a 24/7 media onslaught to blame the guns, and blame the NRA, and get the kids up there, and it’s all emotional, and there’s no facts, it’s not logical it’s just. But it was an onslaught and it continues. So, the fact that that the response of the people, even after being exposed to that very one sided view, is standing strong and only less than a quarter are saying, “Yeah, more gun control.”, that’s pretty remarkable.

Tim:

Well, but I’d also point out that most of the news outlets, the mainstream media news outlets, that have carried the water in this argument for this debate saying, “We need more gun control. Take away these assault rifles. “Get the ban”.”, is also news sites that are not heavily popular, and favored, and viewed by reliables Americans, right. Where most Americans aren’t watching CNN – it”s largely viewed as fake news. The same thing with MSNBC and a lot of others.

So, it also is very telling at how little influence the news media has when it comes to some of these issues. I actually heard a commentator, a radio host, talking about the fact that the media has to feel really bad about themselves with how hard they campaigned for Hillary. And the fact she still lost just shows they’re not as powerful as they thought they were. But now with some of these other issues, everything they seem to be promoting, if they’re not having success and not winning these issues, really it shows kind of the impotency of the news media.

They’re not as powerful as they think they are. Even though they’ve been doing nothing for the last couple of weeks except promoting this kind of nonsense.

Big Business is Overwhelmingly Liberal

David:

Well, we see that so much what we call the mainstream media is very liberal. But we’re often told that business is in the pocket of Republicans, big business, and that’s wrong too. Big businesses is overwhelmingly very liberal. Wall Street companies by a margin of four to one give the Democrats over Republicans. Big business is not in the– now, small business, and that’s Republican stuff. Those are people who work hard, start their own business, they put their own capital risk.

But the publicly traded companies, oftentimes, are not very conservative at all. And so it is not surprising that big business would be listening to CNN and would be listening to those that most Americans don’t listen to. So, as a result, you’ve had companies like Avis, and Enterprise, and carbonyl companies, saying, “No more discounts for NRA members. They’re evil, they’re wicked, we can’t have them.” And you’ve had all these airlines that have come out – I think United has come out, and Delta has come out, and said, “No more discounts on tickets for NRA members.”

Well, they give discounts on tickets for all sorts of affiliates, but no longer for– and by the way, another overreaction– we know that Google and a lot of the search platforms are not conservative at all. And guess what? If you search right now on Google for A.R.15 it comes up the blank page it will not direct you to anything at all. And several of the national search engines no longer can you search for guns and come out– Now, you can search for some specific brands and find some, but there’s even a lot of brands you can’t get anymore.

Tim:

It”s because they don’t exist anymore.

David:

Yeah, right.

Tim:

So even– in fact, you can’t even see old pictures of them–

Rick:

Right.

Tim:

–because they never existed. So, not only are they trying to prohibit you from purchasing a firearm, now–

Rick:

What was that Orwell’s 1984? Was that the one where they would burn all the *, they got rid of everything, the whole department?

Tim:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That’s the direction Google is going. Which, yeah, maybe they should go back and read Orwell. Although, I don’t know, that might inspire them with more ideas–

Rick:

To do more.

Tim:

I”m not sure, but yeah, it”s just nonsense.

David:

So, what you’ve got is all these really liberal thinking companies are going this direction which is not where the American people are going. As Tim pointed out, CNN is not where people are– did you know CNN actually gets their ratings by paying airports to play their programs in airports and then they can say, “Look how many people are viewing it.”

Tim:

I was going to say, I would think CNN has more airports and hotel lobbies that play–

David:

And they have to pay for that. That’s not the hotel lobbies and airports choosing CNN. They’re saying–

Credit For Ratings They Pay For

Tim:

Wow.

David:

–“You want to give us money? Sure.”

Tim:

So, they get credit for ratings they pay for.

David:

That”s right.

Tim:

So, this is like by buying followers on Twitter or something. Yeah, so. You should not get credit for that, but yet again, would indicate that they’re not as influential or heavily watched as they would like to imagine they are.

David:

So, you take a company like Delta. Now Delta is a massive company, they’ve got tons of employees, and they’re based in Atlanta, and that’s the hub for Delta. And guess what? The Lieutenant Governor– and Lieutenant Governors in states are usually the guys who run the state Senate. They’re the guys that do so much of the legislation. Like in Texas our Lieutenant Governor is president of the state Senate. So, you have the speaker of the House, and the Lieutenant Governor, and then the governor is the one who signs the bill.

So, you have the Lieutenant Governor of Georgia who has come out and said, “Hey, Delta, here’s the deal. We’re going to end all the tax breaks we’ve been giving you up to this point. You don’t want NRA members anymore? We don’t care for your business either.” So, Delta is now looking at losing millions on this thing because all the tax incentives that are often given by states to large companies that move in.

But the Lieutenant Governor of Georgia has now put them on notice, “Okay, all the bills that come to the legislature, I’m going to make sure that you don’t get any tax incentives, tax credits, tax breaks at all, if you’re going to discriminate against traditional Americans who think the Second Amendment’s a good deal. You’re in trouble.”

Vote With Your Dollars!

Rick:

How about we help out with that? I would encourage listeners, hey, vote with your dollars. If Delta and United are going to take these kind of ridiculous stance I don’t want to fly Delta and United. I’m headed over to American or Southwest if– I mean, Avis is my preferred car rental for sure, but if they’re going to take this kind of stance then I’m headed over to Alamo or one of the others. Let’s encourage folks to vote with their dollars and have the same impact.

Tim:

Well, and I would point out that I don’t know that I ever used my NRA membership to get a discount at any of those places even though I’ve used many of their services.

David:

I didn”t know they gave discounts.

Tim:

I had no idea. Now, what does the discount mean, right? Maybe five dollars off – I have no idea, but I’ve never even used that. But yeah, this certainly makes me think, “Well, I don’t want to support you if now you are anti law abiding citizens who had nothing to do with the shooting and the murders that have taken place in these schools.”

But let me play devil’s advocate and ask you guys a question. So, I can just imagine the other side is going to talk about how, “Wait a second, it’s so vindictive for the government to target a company and punish them because they’re using their freedom as a business to operate.” Right. “Aren’t they supposed to have freedom? Don’t you guys promote freedom? And now the government’s punishing them for them having a choice. How can the government do that?”

David:

I”m going to interrupt you right there and say, no, no, no, it’s not punishing – we’re removing the incentive. We’re now going to treat you with no favoritism at all – we used to give you a favored status. So, the government’s not punishing them, they’re simply saying, “You are no longer in a favored status position.” Which means you get just treated average, equal with everybody else.

Should You Have Preferential Treatment?

David:

Now the question probably should be should you have preferential treatment for some people? Or shouldn’t you treat everyone the same? But from an economic incentive you understand why they give these companies incentives.

Tim:

Sure. Certainly with Delta they have a huge hub in Atlanta. And so they provide a lot of jobs and that would be why in the state you”d say, “Hey, we’re going to give you some bonus.”, right, “We”re going to give you some good faith credit kind of stuff here because you’re providing so much for the people of Georgia.” So, you’re helping our people out. We’re going to help you out.

But now with them having a policy that actually affects a lot of people in Georgia they’re saying, “Wait a second, if you’re going to punish our people well then we’re not going to help you out.” So, as you mentioned, this is not something where they are being penalized in a sense where nobody else is suffering that penalty. They’re just taking them from the preferred status and saying, “Well, we’re going to treat you like every other business. We’re not going to give you the special perks and bonuses because now you are not benefiting the people of Georgia in the same way. You’re actually punishing people of Georgia who are law abiding citizens who had nothing to do with the shooting and now you’re punishing them. So, we’re going to help you.”

So, I certainly agree with you. But I know that’s something the other side will argue, so probably worth us having a conversation.

David:

And by the way, there’s one other piece of good news that goes with this story out of Georgia. And that piece of good news is Casey Cagle. Casey Cagle is Lieutenant Governor of Georgia that has put his foot down on this.

Lieutenant Governors With a Ton of Backbone

Rick:

And what I think is really cool – I’m looking across the country right now and I’m seeing a lot of Lieutenant Governors with a ton of backbone. Whether it be Dan Patrick in Texas, whether it be Dan Forest in North Carolina, just, I’m really loving what I’m seeing on this next crop– on the current crop of Lieutenant Governors which I hope they’re going to become governors at some point. But these are guys that are really willing to take some strong stands in right directions – constitutional, commonsense, historical, and this good stuff. Casey didn’t have to say anything about this and he did. And so kudos to him. This is great for the next crop of folks that may be governors across the nation.

Rick:

Hey, quick break, guys. We”ll come back and get some more good news. Stay with us, folks. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

Welcome back, thanks for staying with us on this Good News Friday here on WallBuilders Live. We”ve got some more good news for you. I’m still a little bit stuck, guys, on the last segment. I’m trying to think about the logic here of these airlines and car companies no longer wanting to have anything to do with the NRA. Trying to blame them for an evil person taking a weapon and misusing it for evil.

Do We Stop Doing Business With Them Too?

Rick:

I’m just wondering – if a terrorist flies a Delta plane into a building, or rents an Avis van and runs over 20 people in Times Square, does that mean at that point we should stop doing business with them because an evil person misused their–

Tim:

They’re funding weapons of terror at that point, right?

Rick:

That”s right.

Tim:

So, yeah. We have too– Yeah, that inconsistent logic, although properly applied in this case, is what they’re using to blame the NRA. So, certainly illogical. Doesn’t make sense. But in the midst of what they’re doing I can’t imagine the bonuses, or rather the discounts, they were giving to NRA members is going to justify the bad publicity they are now receiving.

Rick:

That’s right.

Tim:

And what’s going to impact them and really hurt their bottom line.

David:

Or that it’s going to hurt the NRA for that matter.

Tim:

Oh yeah, By the way, so even thinking it’s going to hurt the NRA. So, I don’t know if you guys have been tracking, but the NRA has identified they’re growing at faster numbers over this short period than they think they ever have in the history of the NRA. Where people have seen all these calls for boycotting the NRA and so tens of thousands of people are coming out and saying, “Look, we’ve been hunters”, or “We”ve believed in gun rights our whole life. We’ve never been members, but now we’re going to be members.”

NRA Membership Growing at Astounding Rate

Tim:

So, literally just thousands, and thousands, and thousands, of people have been signing up. And so rather than actually hurting the NRA, taking their credibility down, hurting their membership. Actually, the NRA has grown pretty significantly out of this at, again, faster rates than they have over a period of time. So, certainly it’s not worked the way that people that were hoping to boycott the NRA, that hoping it would have a negative effect, it’s had the exact opposite effect for the NRA.

David:

I’m going to resurrect a term from a generation ago. It doesn’t get used often now, but it was called the “silent majority”. What’s happening is the extremism of the CNN’s and the gun control lobbies, and Delta, and others, are forcing the silent majority to take a position. And as they are now being forced to take a position, they’re going against what these liberal guys want them to do. So, as Tim mentioned, all these folks who have never been members of the NRA are suddenly saying, “No, no, no, I’m with you guys. We’ve always been silent on this, but this is just too much.”

And this is really good that when push comes to shove the people who have been sitting in the middle and who haven’t been doing anything or saying anything, they”ve just been listening to this, keeping their opinions to themselves, they’re coming in on the right side.

We looked at the polling last week where, again, only 23 percent of parents with kids in school think that we need more gun control laws. And I think that that 23 percent– I know, I don’t think– that 23 percent is actually lower than the national number that think we need more gun control laws. So, parents with kids in school are actually lower than the national average.

Forced to Pick a Side

David:

But this is the thing where they’re pushing average people into having to make a decision. We’re forcing you to polarize, actually forcing them to pick a side. And as they’re now being forced to pick a side, they’re picking the side that we really want them to from a constitutional and conservative kind of biblical perspective. It”s going the right direction and we just haven’t seen this in recent years. Nothing has forced people off the fence, but now they’re having to pick a side, it’s really going the right direction.

Rick:

We’ve got to take a quick break here, guys. We’ll come back with some more good news. But you’re right – it is just good news that they’re picking the right side.

Most people are– in their gut they know from the laws of nature, the right of self-defence, it’s just– I’m glad to see the positive response.

Because, honestly, I was nervous. I was watching all the coverage going, “Man, this is going to move people emotionally. We’re going to lose people on this issue.” And the exact opposite is happening. So, it’s very, very, good news.

Quick break. We’ll be right back. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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Rick:

We”re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us on Good news Friday Tim Barton up next with some more good news for you. Tim?

No Right To Abortion

Tim:

Guys, this is from Tennessee. Back in 2014, Tennessee had an amendment, it was amendment one that the voters in Tennessee approved. And essentially it was limiting abortion, saying there’s no fundamental right to abortion. The key wording is, “Nothing in this constitution secures or protects a right to abortion or requires the funding of an abortion.”

And the voters in Tennessee said, “Yeah, we agree with that. We agree the Constitution does not require, doesn’t guarantee funding of abortion. And so that was something they were making an amendment for their constitution.

Planned Parenthood did not like the fact that passed. And so Planned Parenthood filed a lawsuit, but here’s what’s interesting to me about this. So, they filed a lawsuit – I would have guessed, knowing Planned Parenthood filed the lawsuit, I would have guessed that the lawsuit was related to this not being legal or against the federal constitution etc.. No, no, no, their lawsuit was about the fact that they only won with 53 percent of the vote to 47 percent of the vote and therefore it shouldn’t stand. Although in state amendment status like that, that’s legal you can do that. So, this has been going on–

David:

You mean the majority can actually win?

Tim:

Yeah.

David:

Are you kidding?

Tim:

Yeah, they can do that. So, in 2016 it finally went before the circuit judge and Michael Bangalee said that, “Yeah, look this is fine what they did.” It then went to federal court and it went to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. And just recently the 6th Circuit came back and they rejected this effort to overturn this movement by Planned Parenthood.

Challenging the Vote Status

Tim:

Now, one of the things that one of the justices said is, “This is not speaking– our decision doesn’t speak at all to the constitutionality of this with a federal perspective.” But striking down the nonsense where Planned Parenthood says, “Wait a second, we’re challenging the vote status.” Now, it’s also interesting to me, if they’re challenging the vote status, instead of trying to challenge the maybe federal constitutional perspective of this, it almost makes me think they don’t believe they could win that challenge. And so they’re going to take that challenge that they thought they were most likely to win – which was just ridiculous. The number challenge, which the other side had more votes and that’s how you win things is you have the most votes.

Anyway, really good news that the courts have recognized, no, this amendment”s fine. And so with it being approved, now at this point I’m sure Planned Parenthood will try to appeal again because that’s what they’re going to do. They’re going to fight this as much as they can. But at this point, according to this Sixth Circuit Court and now can go back in and be enacted as it was voted back in 2014.

Rick:

Alright. Quick break, guys. Got time for one more piece of good news when we come back. Folks are listening to WallBuilders

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Rick:

We”re back on WallBuilders Live. Good news Friday today. And by the way, if we don’t get enough good news in today’s program for you, then go to WallBuildersLive.com, click on the archives, and you can pick up some of those Friday programs over the last few weeks and grab some of that good news. David?

What Are the Most Liberal States?

David:

You guys tell me what is the most liberal state in America.

Rick:

Massachusetts.

Tim:

California, New York.

David:

No, not California.

Tim:

Connecticut.

David:

California is number six.

Rick:

Wow.

David:

Connecticut is number three.

Tim:

Where”s New York?

David:

New York is number four.

Tim:

Okay, well, all mind are in the top 10 – I feel good about it.

David:

Yeah.

Rick:

Delaware.

David:

Vermont”s number one and Massachusetts is number two.

Rick:

Wait, who was number one?

David:

Vermont.

Rick:

Vermont.

Almost Twice as Liberal as Massachusetts

David:

Vermont. Almost twice as liberal margin as Massachusetts. So, Vermont–

Rick:

All 72 people in Vermont.

David:

That’s right. That’s right.

Rick:

I’m sorry Vermont listeners.

David:

That”s right.

Rick:

That was rude. That was some Texas braggadocious there. I apologize.

David:

That’s alright, we could put about 20 Vermont’s inside Dallas Fort Worth. Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states, second most liberal in the United States, heavily Democrat. And by the way, do you guys associate anything with Quincy, Massachusetts?

Rick:

I would think John.

Tim:

Yeah.

David:

There you go. The home of John Adams, and Abigail Adams, and John Quincy Adams, and Louisa Adams, and etc.. The mayor of Quincy Mass.– and by the way, this “Quinzy”– it’s not “Quincy” unless you live in Texas, then we say Quincy. It’s spelled QUINCY, but it’s pronounced “Quinzy”.

Leaving the Democrat Party

David:

So, the mayor of Quincy Mass. is a Democrat, Thomas Koch, and he has just announced that he is leaving the Democratic Party because he’s pro-life and he’s just tired of a party that won’t have anything to do with life. And so he’s leaving it.

And by the way, the national head of the Democrat Party said, “No, if you’re going to be a Democrat you need to be pro abortion.” In Illinois– there’s only two pro-life Democrats left in the House. One”s Dan Lipinski out of Illinois and Democrats are trying to unseat him and he’s been a 30 year congressman thereabouts.

Last week on Good News Friday we had a Democrat legislator in Florida who’s the one who introduced the In God We Trust Bill. So, it’s really good to see Democrats starting to come back on some of these things.

Tim:

Not only does it seem like a novelty having Democrats that are pro-life, but for him as he’s saying, “I’m leaving the party because of its position.” It almost reminds me of when Reagan talked about the Democrats and he said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me. But when you have the Democrat party, they’re going so far left chasing Bernie Sanders and further. That certainly, when you have some of these Democrats that certainly in liberal positions, but weren’t the staunch leftists that some of the New Democrat Party is. I can definitely see how they’re getting left in the cold as they are going– the Democrat Party is going further left.

Not Going Where the Loud Noise Is

Tim:

But it’s pretty interesting you have this guy saying, “Wait a second, no, no, no, I’m pro life above party.–“

David:

Yep.

Tim:

So, if the party is going in the wrong direction I’m staying on principles.

David:

What I love in this is they asked political scientists, “Is this going to hurt his chances for re-election?” And they all said, “Oh, no.” They said, “He represents a whole lot of the people in Massachusetts that just really don’t have a voice in the party.” And I thought that’s again interesting that when you’re forcing these people in the midstream to choose, they’re not going where the loud noise is.