ProFamily Legislators Conference – Glenn Beck, Part 3: Who are your heroes and why do you need them? Is it that important to know true history? What should Americans really unify around? Did Lincoln really intend to end slavery? Who was Raoul Wallenberg? Why take a stand? Tune in to hear the conclusion of Glenn Beck’s presentation from the ProFamily Legislators Conference and learn how courage is contagious!

Air Date: 01/28/2021

Guest: Glenn Beck

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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Faith and the Culture


Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. It’s WallBuilders Live, where we talk about today’s hottest topics on policy, faith, and the culture, always looking at those things from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. We’re sure glad you’re with us today. You can learn more about our program and our website,

My name is Rick Green. I’m a former Texas legislator and America’s Constitution coach. Normally, I’m here with David Barton, America’s premier historian and our founder here at WallBuilders, also, Tim Barton is usually with US National speaker and pastor and president of WallBuilders. 

But neither of those guys are here today. And I’m not really going to be here today, because we’re headed out to the ProFamily Legislators Conference so that you can hear Glenn Beck’s presentation at the conference.

Now, this conference, we do it once a year. It’s a great chance for state reps and state senators to come together and exchange ideas and hear from great speakers. But sometimes we want you to hear from those speakers as well. 

And since we can’t invite all of you to the conference itself, we share those presentations with and we shared a few back during the holidays. This one this week, this is actually the third part of the Glenn Beck presentation at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.

So if you have missed our programs this week, don’t worry, they’re available right now at Go to that website today, you can listen to yesterday’s program, which was the middle, so in other words, part two, and then two days ago was part one, the opening of the Glenn Beck presentation, and today we get the conclusion. So let’s dive right in, here’s Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.

A Little-Known Story


The man who erected Statue of Liberty, who built the foundation of the lady with the torch is a guy that was torched by his own country. He still believed in America. What do we have to complain about? What do we have to complain about? He knew.

This is the only picture in existence of Abraham Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth, in the same photo. Right in the center is Abraham Lincoln giving his second inaugural address which you can see the people in the crowd. 

Nobody’s listening to him. There’s no microphone. I mean, what are you doing showing up there?

But he’s giving his second inaugural address. Here at the corner of the Capitol right at the very top is John Wilkes Booth. This was the day of the first attempt by John Wilkes Booth to kill Lincoln. Nobody knows about this.

He was listening to Lincoln and he hated Lincoln. And he’s listening to him. And somehow or another, he had super ears or something and he could hear Lincoln say with malice toward none and charity for all. Let’s bind these wounds rooms and come together. Oh, that made him nuts. 

He wanted to kill him with his bare hands and he tried. He came down from that corner down the stairs. As Lincoln was leaving, he comes down the stairs and he’s going to throw himself on Lincoln and choke him to death. Okay.

He gets down. He’s about three stairs away, Lincoln is this far, and Booth trips and falls and just hits the legs of Lincoln. And there’s a police officer standing right there, and he’s like, hey, hey, and he picks him up by the scruff, Lincoln keeps moving, picks him up and said what, oh, I’m sorry, Mr. Booth, are you okay? 

The First Attempt on Lincoln’s Life

Booth, he was like Leonardo DiCaprio. He was a famous Hollywood guy of his day. The cop knew who he was, and that’s when Booth said, oh, I’m sorry. I trip, I hope the President was okay? Oh, yeah, he’s fine. Are you okay, Mr. Booth?

If you go to Ford’s Theater, you will see the outfit that Lincoln was wearing. And on his color, it’s missing. This is the missing piece of his color stained in blood. What people did at the time, it was like a carnival. The way they treated him was abhorrent. He knew he was going to die. He knew. Imagine. 

You know he didn’t free the slaves. They say that he didn’t really care about black people. He didn’t care about slaves. No, he just cared about keeping the country together. Well, except for this little document from the 1850s in Lincoln’s handwriting as a lawyer, he’s saying if A can prove however conclusively that he may have the right to enslave B, why not B snatch the same argument and in slave person A? 

Well, you say person A is white and B is black. Ah, so it is color then that allows the right to enslave, beware, he writes, because the next person that is lighter than you may enslave you.


Alright, friends, quick break, we’re going to interrupt Glenn for just a second. Going to take a quick break. We’ll be right back, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

A Moment from American History

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. In 1963, the United States Supreme Court decided that voluntary Bible reading could no longer be part of the school day. Founding Father, Benjamin Rush, known as the “Father of Public Schools” under the Constitution pointedly warned that the Bible should be read in schools in reference to all other books. 

He specifically warned that if America ever cease promoting biblical principles in schools, then we would waste so much time and money and punishing crimes and takes so little pains to prevent them. He was right.

We now have 7 million Americans in prison, on probation or on parole, and the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Sadly, this was unnecessary, but is the result of no longer teaching the morals of the Bible in schools. For more information about the founding fathers views on the positive impact of the Bible in schools, go to


We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us through the break. We’re going to jump right back in we left off with Glenn Beck right before the break giving this presentation at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.


It’s not color exactly, you say. What you mean is whites are more intellectually sound than blacks, and that way you can enslave them because they’re not intellectually all there. Be careful because the next person that you meet that is your intellectual superior can now enslave you.

Did Lincoln Want to End Slavery?

This was written in the 1850s. This is before he came to power. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly what he was fighting for. 

But he didn’t think the federal government had the right to tell states what to do, instead change people’s hearts. He’s trying to change people’s hearts. He was looking for a way to make an argument that would connect the same thing we’re trying to do today.

We’re looking for an argument when people’s hearts are turned to stone. You’re a racist no matter what because of your color. That is a hard heart. How do we change that? This is the process he was going through. Because nothing is ever accomplished, ever, by force. The great thing about America is we get to choose. 

And what do we choose? Right now we’re supposed to come together and be unified. But unified on what? On what? Liberty. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

And to protect these rights, governments are instituted among men. And if a government begins to infringe on these rights, it is the people’s right, it is their duty to overthrow the chains of that government and institute a new government that is more likely to protect those rights.

John Huntsman Snr, not Jnr, John Huntsman Snr was a good friend of mine. He was like a father to me in many ways. He said to me one day, who are your heroes? Why?

I told him. A few months later, he was in my office and he looked at my desk and he looked at the credenza, and he said, I see pictures of your family.

Who Are Your Heroes?

Where are your heroes? And I said, in here, in here, and he said, you are swimming with the sharks. You are having to make split second decisions.

You are going to be tempted every day of your life. You need the faces and the eyes of your heroes in front of you all the time. They are watching you, and you are watching them. 

When you are afraid, when you’re thinking you might compromise, look them in the eye. I did that. Life changing. Life changing.

My son was eight years old, and he was taking Taekwondo. And he hates crowds. When he was eight, he hated crowds, because he saw the crowd in the way things when we’ll be alone and the negatives of crowds for us and our family, and he never wanted any of that. So he’s eight years old, he’s learning Taekwondo, we take him for his first belt. 

Well, he didn’t think that other parents were going to be there. There’s a crowd. And like, son, it’s not crowd there. They’re not going to watch you at all. They’re all watching their kids, it’s just me and mom. He freaked out, would not go get his belt. And I said, come here, let’s go. 

So the two of us go, my daughter gets her belt. And I’m driving, and I don’t know what to say to him. How am I going to teach him? What am I going to teach him? I mean, I as a parent, I don’t know you probably have it down.

I am bluffing every second of the day. And unfortunately, my kids I think are onto me. But I’m driving and I don’t know what I’m going to say.

This Precarious Moment


Hey, friends, quick break here. We’ve got a little bit more of Glenn Beck’s presentation today. This is the conclusion by the way. So if you missed yesterday’s program, and the day before, they are available at our website right now at But let’s catch a quick break. When we come back, we’ll get the conclusion of Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.

Hi, this is David Barton. I want to let you know about a brand new book we have out called This Precarious Moment: Six Urgent Steps that Will Save You, Your Family, and Our Country. Jim Garlow and I have coauthored this book, and we take six issues that are hot in the culture right now, issues that we’re dealing with, issues such as immigration, and race relations and our relationship with Israel and the rising generation Millennials in the absence of the church and the culture wars, and where American heritage is, our godly heritage.

We look at all six of those issues right now that are under attack and we give you both biblical and historical perspective on those issues that provide solutions on what each of us can do right now to make a difference. 

These are all problems that are solvable if we’ll get involved. So you can grab the book, This Precarious Moment and find out what you can do to make a difference. “This Precarious Moment” is available at

Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference


Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Today, we’ve been listening to Glenn Beck, as he was speaking at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.

That’s the conference once a year where we bring state reps and state senators together from all across the nation to exchange ideas, to sharpen each other’s countenance, to help each other with things that have worked in their state and encourage them to do the same thing in other states, and also to hear from some great speakers.

And one of those speakers this last conference was Glenn Beck. And we would love for you to be able to attend the conference, but it’s only for legislators. So what we do is we take some of the best presentations throughout the conference, and we share them here on WallBuilders Live. This week, that has been Glenn Beck. 

And today is actually the conclusion. So if you’re just tuning in in the middle of the program, or just tuning in today, if you’ve missed part one and part two, they are available at our website Check that out today and make your contribution at the website today as well. Let’s jump in and get the conclusion from Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference.


I get home and he comes to me. And I go into my office, I said, come into the office, come sit in the library and I had a lot of these things and pictures of Rosa Parks and Billy Graham and Martin Luther King and Washington and Abraham Lincoln and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, have all things from their lives, every inch of my office is covered in stuff. And we sat down on the couch.

Courage is Contagious

And I said, “Why do I have all this stuff on my walls?” And he gave me a roll of the eyes that everybody’s child does, and gave me the answer he thought I wanted. And he said, because they’re all heroes and they all we’re really brave. 

And I said, no. Because I could tell you the story of each one of them. And I could tell you right now, every single one of them were terrified to do what they had to do. They all looked at their mountain that they had to scale and they were terrified of it. 

But they did it. Somehow or another, there was something in these unique individuals that allow them to reach in and pull something glorious out, even at their own expense, at the cost of their own life. Who does that?

My wife gave me a present at Christmas, one year, it’s about seven or eight years ago. She handed me the box. And I took it and then she immediately grabbed a pack and she said, I’m not giving this to you. I’m like, what? She said, Honey, I think we were in Hawaii. She was like honey, we’re know Hawaii, everybody’s happy. 

It’s Hawaii, sun, beach, Christmas and you. And if I give this to you, you are going to spend the rest of the day crying. And I said, oh, I will not. She said, yes, you will. I said I will not, give it to me. I opened it up and I spent the rest of the day crying. But it’s happy tears. This is what she gave me.

This is a shot pass from Raoul Wallenberg. Does anybody know who he is? A few people. Thank you for knowing who he is. The United States during World War II went to Raoul. He was from a very prestigious family in Sweden. 

And they said, we want you to go to work for your government, but also ours. We want you to go into Budapest because we think Jews are being rounded up and killed, and we need someone with eyes and ears to tell us what’s going on.

Raoul Wallenberg

He went and what he saw was a horror show. And he couldn’t sit still. So every Jew he saw with a star, he said come to our embassy, to Swedish Embassy, come to the embassy. And he would type out this. 

This is a pass that says this person is no longer your citizen, this is now a citizen of Sweden. They don’t have to wear the star. You cannot do anything to them. And he saved thousands of people.

He would type these up fast and furious. The King of Sweden kept calling and saying stop, stop. We have the Germans at our doorstep, stop. He wouldn’t. He typed all the time, there was typing, and he was signing.

And as the trains would come in, he would go and he would take these and shove them in between the slots of the cattle car and say make sure everyone has one. Then he would go to the front of the train and stand on the coal if he had to and say stop this train. You have the wrong people. 

These are my people. These are my citizens. And they would unload the trains and anyone who had one was saved. We asked him to go and just tell us what was going on, he did much more.

At the end of the war, the Russians were coming in. And many of the people at the embassy and many of the people that had these passes, were leaving, and they said, please, please come with us. He told them, the Russians are coming, and they can’t be worse than the Germans.


Alright, friends, we’re going to interrupt Glenn for just a second, got to take a quick break. Stay with us, you’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Constitution Alive!

Have you ever wanted to learn more about the United States Constitution but just felt like, man, the classes are boring or it’s just that old language from 200 years ago or I don’t know where to start? People want to know but it gets frustrating because they don’t know where to look for truth about the Constitution either.

Well, we’ve got a special program for you available now called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. And it’s actually a teaching done on the Constitution at Independence Hall in the very room where the Constitution was framed. 

We take you both to Philadelphia, the cradle of liberty and Independence Hall and to the WallBuilders library, where David Barton brings the history to life to teach the original intent of our Founding Fathers.

We call it The Quickstart Guide to the Constitution, because in just a few hours through these videos, you will learn the citizens guide to America’s Constitution, you’ll learn what you need to do to help save our constitutional republic. 

It’s fun, it’s entertaining, and it’s going to inspire you to do your part to preserve freedom for future generations. It’s called Constitution Alive with David Barton and Rick Green. You can find out more information on our website now and


We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. We’ve been enjoying a presentation from Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference. So let’s jump right back in. Here’s Glenn Beck.

You Just Have to Stand


He was last seen running to the Russian infantry. There are three endings to this story. One is he was shot there in Budapest, not likely because Stalin knew who he was, and Stalin wanted to interrogate him himself. So the other two stories are that he went to Moscow, interrogated, and then made almost into a play thing and he died around 1948-1950. The happiest ending was he was just in a gulag and died around 1970.

The American president never asked the Soviets until Gerald Ford. Where is he? What happened? If you’re going to stand, you most likely will stand alone.

If you’re going to stand, you most likely will be betrayed by people you thought were your friends. But courage is contagious. You will leave behind you have a legacy that will inspire the world when their time comes to fight evil. I don’t know, I’m German, name like Beck. I have no idea what my relatives did. In World War II.

They could have been horrible. They could have been heroes. In Germany, you don’t ask. Because most people just went along with it. But a few people stood. And it only takes the truth. It only takes the recognition of truth. You don’t need to know anything, except what most of us learned as children. Just promise yourself no matter what the cost. I just won’t go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

You don’t have to be a hero. You don’t have to be Superman. You don’t have to do anything except that’s not true. That’s just not true. And I will not move from this place.

It is a true honor for all of us to have been born at this time in this country. We are the ones standing in the gap, the ones that are standing between global darkness, and the flicker of liberty, that in all of the thousands of years of man has only just begun to spark on this continent 240 years ago. The flame must not go out on our watch.

ProFamily Legislators Conference – Glenn Beck, Part 3

Let us mutually pledge to each other and know in the core of our being what this means. Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. Your children and grandchildren will have amazing stories to tell about you. When we were all long gone. Thank you for inviting me. God bless you.

My friends, that was Glenn Beck at the ProFamily Legislators Conference today was the conclusion of his talk there from just a few weeks ago. If you missed the first two parts, everything’s available today at It’s a three part series. So check that out on our website today.

While you’re there, please consider making that one time or monthly contribution. Also, you can listen in the archives to other programs from the last few weeks and months, and you can check out the stations that were on all across the country. All of that available at Sure appreciate you listening today. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.