Soros Is Using Taxpayer Money For His Leftist Agenda: Today, Former Congressman Bob McEwen will be joining us talking about the impact that George Soros is having and the programs that he’s got out there trying to influence the culture! Tune in now to learn how we can counter some of that left-wing propaganda!
Air Date:Â 06/04/2018
Guest: Congressman Bob McEwen
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Faith And The Culture
Rick:
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Later in the program, former Congressman, Bob McEwen, will be back with us on the program. We always love having Bob on, just a great source of economic information and really takes complicated issues and helps us to understand those. But also he gives us an inside, kind of inside baseball scoop because he’s been there and served in the House and been around these things.
So, David, Tim, looking forward to having Congressman on with us later in the program. Going to be talking about actually some of the impact that George Soros is having and a lot of the programs that he’s got out there trying to influence the culture and how we can counter some of that left wing propaganda.
Needs to be a Much More Recognizable Name
David:
George Soros is a name that a lot of people are starting to recognize, but it really needs to be a much more recognizable name. He is probably the chief funder of everything that goes against traditional values, biblical values, that goes against American exceptionalism, that goes against sound education. You name it, he is the 19th wealthiest guy in the world, he has twenty five billion dollars. And he has promised that he will put all of that into transforming the world in a more, I don’t know, what do you want to say, a post Christian progressive direction. He’s willing to put all of his money where his beliefs are.
Rick:
What do you think drives him, David? Is he is the atheist? Is he just a secularist? Why is he so anti Christian, anti Western values?
David:
He is an atheist, he is a secularist, he is all of that. As a matter of fact, when people went after him for being an atheist Jew, which he is, which is an almost oxymoronic thing in some ways. A lot of rabbis actually came out and accused those people of being anti-Semitic. No they”re not, they’re attacking him not for his faith, they point out he is an atheist Jew, but they’re attacking him because of his policies.
And it’s interesting even as a Jewish guy he is not very good with Israel at all. He’s really great for the Palestinians and all the things they want to do. And so he’s on the wrong– he is really, he funds big stuff to help promote Islam. There’s just so many things that he is on the wrong side of and it doesn’t even make sense for his Jewish heritage. But the atheist side of him drives stuff really big.
And so he really is into transforming the United States in a very big way in a wrong direction. He was a huge supporter for Barack Obama, huge supporter for Hillary Clinton. He puts so much money into Liberal Progressive Democrats, particularly. I don’t know that he’s ever funded even a progressive Republican, but he has definitely gone after those who are the most open in fighting those values. And so he’s pro Islam, he is pro illegal drug use, he is pro prostitution, he is pro homosexual. Anything that will go against– it’s a Libertarian on steroids.
The Bogeyman of the Right
David:
Not only is he in the position of saying, “Hey, there shouldn’t be moral values.” If there is a moral value, he will attack it to tear down. And he doesn’t do this just in America. As a matter of fact, right now there’s a big focus on him across the world because he’s going into those parts of Europe that are more pro Western. Whether you want to take Albania, or Czechoslovakia, or Hungary, or Ukraine, etc., and he’s funding big efforts across Europe in those conservative Christian kind of nations to have open border immigration. Â
He’s put billions into pushing Muslim immigrants into those Christian nations. So in Hungry, they’re actually looking at bills right now that will ban Soros from doing anything in Hungary, or being able to come into Hungary. And he’s made a lot of his wealth off knocking down the economics of other nations. He’s called the guy who broke the Bank of England. There was a lawsuit against him in France. What he does with speculative economics to just knock other nations down. Pretty wild stuff.
So, most Americans do not know him. And there’s articles out on the left newspapers – Why did the right consider George Soros the bogeyman? Why is he the bogeyman of the right? Well, he’s not the bogeyman of the right. He’s just a guy willing to put a lot of money, and a lot of time, and a lot of effort, into initiatives that tear down traditional values, American constitutionalism. And not just in America, but also across Europe as well.
And that’s why we thought Bob would be a good guy to talk about this because Bob is so well connected in Europe, has so many good contacts there. It’s kind of interesting to see how Soros is really going global with his war on traditional values and limited government.
Rick:
And potentially having even more impact in some of those countries where they’re not as aware of what he’s bringing in.
David:
Well, they also don’t have the infrastructure on the ground and the resources to be able to push back. Because they’re not nearly as sophisticated with the partisan type of things that Soros is able to do. And so many nations– yes, there are parties, but they just don’t do things at the level that we do them here in America. The use of social media type stuff on a political map as Obama was able to do to generate so much activity, so much groundswell. And now the fact that you can take that internet type of activity and affect other nations from America. He’s able to generate progressive groups to reach out and affect other nations in a way that other nations are not used to.
Rick:
Yeah.
David:
They’re kind of used to having their own internal fights not having outside internationalists come after them.
Rick:
Let’s get some perspective from Congressman Bob McEwen. Looking forward to having him with us today. Stay with us, folks. We’ll be right back on WallBuilders Live.
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Rick:
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Tim, you’ve already been doing this a couple of summers and seen the results of young people coming to this program. We’re going to see more of them coming this year.
Tim:
Yeah, Rick, it”s something that”s been cool to see the transformation with young people coming in. The emphasis, for us, largely is a pursuit of truth. We have a culture that doesn’t know what truth is. We don’t know what biblical truth is, or constitutional truth, or the American heritage that we have. And so we really dive into original documents and say, “Well, what did they actually write? What did they actually do? Not just what did somebody say, what is actually true, and the truth is what’s transformational.
David:
Yeah, guys. This really is a remarkable opportunity. And for those who want to spend time with us and spend time in the original documents, this is a great program. So, if you’re from 18 to 25, or you know someone who’s 18 to 25, send them to sign up for one of our three sessions this summer at WallBuilders.com/leadershiptraining.
Uncovering Soros Money in Other Countries
Rick:
Welcome back. Thanks for staying with us on WallBuilders live. Our good friend, former Congressman Bob McEwen, is back with us again. Congressman, always good to have you, sir.
Congressman Bob McEwen:
The honor is mine, Rick. You know that. Great to be with you.
Rick:
Hey, we appreciate your time any time we can get you. We cover a broad range of topics with you. This one’s a little bit new though, this sort of uncovering of Soros money in other countries undermining some of the good governments out there that are working with us. And supporting, of course, some of the leftist activities, but actually using our tax dollars to do that. I thought this guy was ultra rich. Why does he need our tax dollars for his agenda?
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Well, he is ultra rich. I think he’s considered to have been the first person to ever make over a billion dollars in one day. And he’s a multi-billionaire that uses his influence, actually, for corruption. People always ask, “What is George Soros up to?”
First of all, who is he. He’s an operative that is viciously, viciously, anti-American. He is for some reason anti Israel as well, it sort of flows together. And he seeks to undermine pro Western governments.
People say, “Why does he do that?” Well, what he does is he buys politicians. And rather than like most businesses where they advertise, and they attend trade shows, and they experiment with new products and things. What he does, he buys politicians. I was just in a country just last week and noticed that the health minister that he had supported to get appointed had just given a 250 million dollar contract for what they estimated would be worth about 100 million dollars to purchase, not vitamins, but material from one of his companies.
Buy, Steal, and Whatever Else
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Now that’s what he does. He installs people– his business model is such that he has these crooks that then buy, steal, and whatever else pharmaceuticals that he owns and makes more and more money he seems to be driven by that. In the process those who are honest, those who stand for principle, they get in his way and he seeks to destroy them.
Rick:
So, if he can buy the politicians, he gets the contracts, makes more money to buy more politicians. And he seems to be having, I don’t know if I want to use the word “success”, but he’s certainly–
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Yep.
Rick:
— accomplishing his agenda in a lot of these other countries that should matter to us right. Some people would say, when we when we start talking about what he’s doing in other nations, “Well, why do we care? It’s not about America.” But it affects us.
Congressman Bob McEwen:
It”s because we are a part of it. What he does, he goes into a country, let’s take Albania, for example, where there was a very pro-American government. The Albanians, when George Bush arrived, they had half a million people chanting, “USA, USA, USA”. They were the first of the Balkan nations to go into NATO.
So, when he would go into Albania, which was our friend, the president was a loyal ally, the defense minister went and they supported us in Iraq and Afghanistan, gave a larger percentage per capita than any other of our allies under Obama. It took more of the trash from Gitmo than any other nation on earth. They did everything to be helpful to America. And as a result, fashioned themselves as an enemy of Soros who then did a great deal to undermine him.
Supplanted By Socialists
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Therefore, elected a socialist which is the term this now used for the old communists, nobody, the old communists that ran Yugoslavia and those other countries they don’t call themselves communists anymore, they call themselves socialists. So, the Socialist Party was able to supplant them. And then here’s where the trick comes in. The U.S. ambassador there then in cooperation took away the visas so that the defense minister, and the president, and his family, the president’s grandchildren go to school in Maryland and in Johns Hopkins. They took away the visas so that they couldn’t travel anymore, begin to put the clamps down on just to be miserable in any way that they can.
And what is significant is that Soros had such ties into the Clinton/Kerry State Department so that what would happen is the U.S. Agency for International Development would come along and whenever George Soros had started one of these anti-American left wing– they call them, of course, pro environment and pro human rights, which means it furthers the gay agenda thing.
They would have one of these one of these NGOs – non-government organizations, they’d be started out and manned by George Soros. He then would then turn it over to America and the Agency for International Development which has 60 billion dollars under the Secretary of State. Hillary would then take over those agencies and now the U.S. taxpayer is paying for those all over the world to do things.
Such that whenever I travel, and I do a great deal, I cannot go to a country, but one of the first things that comes up at dinner, at breakfast, or wherever, is they begin to talk about the evil that the U.S. State Department Agency for International Development. George Soros alliance is doing to their country. So, that’s why we should care about it very deeply.
Any Defunding?
Rick:
So, it’s our money, one, and two, it’s doing very bad work around the around the country. How– the bureaucracies are huge and I realize having President Trump in doesn’t change everything overnight. Are we defunding any of those efforts under Trump or has that been something we haven’t gotten to yet?
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Well, one of the goals is to get control of the Agency for International Development. John McCain was able to get one of his acolytes in there and he has been a close associate with Hillary Clinton. The McCain/Clinton alliances is rather forceful and we saw it in the last campaign, particularly. And so efforts had to come from the top which would be the secretary of state.
Rick:
And would you say from top down, that President Trump himself and the people that he’s surrounding himself with, they’re certainly not in favor–
Congressman Bob McEwen:
No.
Rick:
— of supporting the Soros efforts?
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Well, let’s put it this way. I firmly believe, Rick, that if virtually anybody that you can think of, that this president is more effective at standing against that than virtually anyone else that you can think of. Because Soros has been a part of so many things, he’s been a major contributor to the Clinton Foundation, and he’s attended many of these National Democratic Institute , the NDI, and involved in so many things. The only person that’s not associated with him is Donald Trump. And I think that that’s one of the best– one of the many sidebars of the benefits that we have.
Rick:
You say that about about Trump really realizing it’s a bad idea to send money to these kind of things. I think that’s been one of the most surprising things to me is I would have never thought I would talk about moral clarity and Donald Trump. But he clearly has shown that in the war on terror, and the issue of abortion, and even here in the socialism vs. free enterprise and freedom. His gut instinct is he knows what these guys are doing is wrong and bad for those countries and for ours and seems to have a moral clarity that he acts on. In a way that even some of our good friends that we might have supported for president maybe wouldn’t have been as effective on.
Trump”s Last Batch of Judges
Congressman Bob McEwen:
I can’t help but believe that that’s the case. He is so strong he doesn’t crumble. His last batch of judges that he appointed, 25 of them in that batch that he sent to the Senate, all 25 of them were dynamite – they’re terrific. Now as we said, under Bush you would have had four or five good ones and 18 excuses.
This is so many times that he– and I liken it to, I buy used cars. And when I buy a car that’s a year or two old and I drive it for a couple weeks and I find the little additions that it has that I didn’t know it had. I think, “Oh, this is wonderful. I’m so glad about that.” And that’s sort of the way he is. You go along and, “This is more than I’d hoped for.” He is really strong.
When he took the EPA apart, and they had a vehicle that gave them control of every inch of America. And rather than amending it or talking about it, he just flushed it. I can’t think of any other president that would have done that. It was done in 2015. There was a build up at the last minute to thrust it in with all the support from Obama. And rather than analyze its good parts or whatever he said, “This is the wrong thing to do. Rather than having federal government control every inch of land, and every flower that”s planted, and every acre this plowed. Let’s just go back and let the locals do it. As the country did for 240 years.”
And he does that on a regular basis and I’m grateful to him. And I think we need to pray for him because this is, he is under a power that we have never seen anybody the daily, daily, daily, I listened to Joe Scarborough. Every morning I pull out of the driveway about 5 till 6 and at 6:00 o’clock I turn him on and I think, “Now, what can he say to attack our president today?” And invariably, day after day, the first words out of his mouth are Donald Trump. Then they spend three hours just attacking, attacking.
Knowing What Both Sides Are Up To
Congressman Bob McEwen:
So, in this battle we can be grateful, we should support him, and he will make mistakes along the way. Because unlike you and I he’s not perfect, but the rest of us will just have to make accommodations, I think.
Rick:
Well, just hearing that you listen to Joe and the liberal left every morning, I know you’re also a Bible reader, so it immediately made me think of one of my former mentors, Zig Ziglar, would always say, “I read the newspaper and the Bible every morning so I know what both sides are up to.” So, that’s what you’ve been doing, finding out what both sides are up to.
Congressman Bob McEwen:
That”s true.
Rick:
Congressman McEwen, always good to have you, sir, look for the next time.
Congressman Bob McEwen:
Rick, appreciate it. All the best. Stay with us, folks. We”ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.
Tim:
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Rick:
Welcome back. Thanks for staying with us on WallBuilders Live. Thanks again to Congressman Bob McEwen for joining us today as well.
We’re back with David and Tim. And, guys, he does– Bob goes and speaks in all of these countries quite often, so he kind of sees it from behind the scenes as well and sees that impact of what Soros is trying to do.
David:
Yeah, he has seen what Soros is doing and I thought the comment he made that Soros is buying politicians is really the right thing to say. That’s a great description of it. That is what Soros has done in America, been very effective for the items that he’s done here. He went through a period a few years ago of really going after the secretaries of state and he got a number of guys elected as secretary of state. They were a huge impact in getting conservatives– the count was lost and you’d have a recount and no conservative could win a recount where Soros had a DA.
And on the other side if there was a recount involving a progressive liberal they would recount two, three, four, however many times it took and as soon as they got ahead the secretary of state would say, “That’s it. He’s the winner.” And so it was a real advantage. We saw that in races in Minnesota and races Washington state, etc. Then it moved into AG races because that decides legally what you’re going to challenge or what you’ll not challenge as a law on the state side.
All Politics Is Local
David:
Now, we see for example, out in Los Angeles he’s pouring massive amounts of money into local district attorney races. Because if you can get a district attorney that’s not going to prosecute under immigration laws, just say, “Hey, open borders is what we want. We’re going to be a sanctuary city. If the DA won’t prosecute then he moves his agenda forward. And if the DA won’t prosecute drug crimes, and if the DA won’t prosecute prostitution, all these things he supports. So, he’s putting massive amounts of money even into local races.
And so he has found out, as Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill used to say, “All politics is local”. And that’s really where he”s putting money in what we would call “down ballot” race as well.
Rick:
And those dollars have more impact.
David:
That’s right.
Rick:
Fewer dollars are needed to win a DA race than to win an Attorney General race statewide.
David:
You bet. You can put a hundred million dollars into a U.S. Senate race and you may not get good votes. But you can buy four or five district attorney races across California in larger cities for ten million dollars and get all sorts of clout for 10 percent of it. So, even– Â and that’s 10 million for five races, that’s pretty big. Well, that’s in those big states.
You go into smaller states, or you go into these nations, overseas nations – Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Albania, etc., and, man, a half million over there goes so far and does so much. Those people aren’t used to this kind of outside influence which is why they’re getting really nervous over in those European nations.
A Sad Commentary
Tim:
And, guys, I”d point out I thought it was kind of a sad commentary as Bob was expressing that some nations looking can go, “Why are you guys Americans doing this?” Although, many people recognize it”s Soros, but the fact that that some of this taxpayer funding is being used. And so it’s America now looking like we’re the bad guys in some of these because of the way that he’s able to underhand and use some of these deals. Â Really, it’s a bad reflection on us and it’s something that not only do we need to expose George Soros for a lot of the corruption– corruption being relative, right, a lot of the negative things, underhanded things he’s doing.
But certainly in a sense where this is now not just a problem in America for us that we’re dealing with, this is something that’s making a  significant, and even at times tragic, difference around the nation. So, obviously it’s great he’s getting exposed. But certainly something that we ought to be thinking, “Man, what can we do to try to put a stop to this bleeding going on?” as it were.
David:
And don’t think that Soros is not smart. When you’re worth 25 billion and you find a way to get government funds to do your work for you, oh my gosh, that’s not a dumb move. That’s how you get to be worth a lot of money is understanding how to use money.
And by the way, as was mentioned, he has used money in a lot of nations– Malaysia, ask Malaysia about the effect of Soros. So, what he’s done is he’s very sophisticated, very good at what he does. He’s willing to sacrifice all that he has to help achieve those goals. And I kind of wonder how many Christians are willing to do that or how many Christian businessmen would be willing to do what Soros is doing for their beliefs. Soros is a very dedicated guy.
But he’s a name that we need to know. It’s a name that needs to be radioactive so that when we hear, “Oh, Soros is involved in that DA race”, it should be every American goes “Oh no. No, no, if that’s the deal–“. And then eventually political folks will say, “I don’t want any money from Soros. That’s a losing proposition.” But that only happens when the Americans get educated in that. And so Soros, again, is not an unintelligent guy. He’s a very smart guy as evidenced by the fact that he’s getting the government funds to be able to do his bidding even in other nations.
Repackaging Going On
David:
And I also thought, too, Bob looking over Europe knows so much about it. I thought it”s interesting the repackaging that’s going on where he pointed out that communists now call themselves socialists. It’s like communism is a really bad word and even kind of progressives don’t like that word. And so what they do is they repackage themselves as socialist. And socialist is kind of an acceptable flavor of the month right now. You have 40– as Barna told us recently, 41 percent of Americans say they support socialism. So why not call communism socialism because it’s more acceptable? So, that’s a–
Rick:
When you say Barna told us, you”re talking about George Barna–
David:
Right.
Rick:
— who does all this research constantly, polling, and maybe the most used– does more than pretty much anybody on the planet. It’s incredible how good he is in touch with what people are saying, what the words are. And this socialism thing shocked me when he showed those numbers how many people were okay with that word.
Tim:
Well, it’s one of the interesting things too that the other side tends to do such a good job of marketing. Where they make their ideas seem so fashionable and so appealing and it seems that they set the trend in so many ways. And so they’re able to find the words that are acceptable, find the words that are trendy, and say, “No, no, no, we’re not communists, we’re socialists.” And ultimately because we don’t know how to define words anymore we embrace things that are not as though they were because we don’t even know what words mean anymore.
Not That Far Apart
Tim:
But it’s a great point that, yeah, a lot of this modern socialism really is a repackaging of communism although socialism and communism really aren’t that far apart. They’re pretty closely related cousins in general. The same thing with Marxism etc. But it’s a great point. We ought to be aware – not just what somebody is labeling, but what is the actual content behind that label. Because communism ia certainly something that we’re not trying to promote, not beneficial, doesn’t work. Although socialism never has either.
Rick:
I think it”s Rabbi Lapin that says the only difference is a communist is a socialist with a gun. And that’s about the only, from a practical perspective, and certainly in the economy in terms of the difference.
And, guys, we”ll dive more into this in the coming weeks, and dig deeper into what these words mean, and the impact that it has on us as citizens. What does it mean in terms of good choices for the in the marketplace, and the things that you can buy, or the way you can conduct your business, or even how you can express yourself? It has a huge impact on the country.
Soros Is Using Taxpayer Money For His Leftist Agenda
Rick:
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