Supreme Court Power, Democrat Party, Christmas: Today, David and Rick answer listener questions about saying “Merry Christmas” vs. “Happy Holidays,” Congress and our judicial system, and how to set the record straight about the Democrat Party.

Air Date: 01/12/2017

Guests: David Barton and Rick Green

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Welcome To Freedom Thursday

President Calvin Coolidge said, “€œThe more I study the Constitution, the more I realize that no other document devised by the hand of man has brought so much progress and happiness to humanity. To live under the American Constitution is the greatest political privilege that was ever accorded to the human race.”€


Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture! This is WallBuilders Live! Where we’re discussing today’s hottest topics on policy, faith, and culture all from a Biblical, historical, and  constitutional perspective.

In fact today, Foundations of Freedom Thursday is when we really dive into that constitutional perspective. We are here with David Barton. He is America’s premier historian and our founder and president here at WallBuilders.  And my name is Rick Green I am a former Texas state representative. You can find out more about us on our orginization at and

The name comes from that Scripture in Nehemiah that says, “€œArise and rebuild the walls that we may no longer be a reproach.”€ Also, is our radio site.  You can get all the stations.  We”€™re on across the country. You can get archives of programs from the last few weeks and other great information there at the website

David, Foundations of Freedom Thursday, we got a lot of questions that have been coming in from the audience.  Especially with the change in the presidency and all these different things.  So one of the cool things we get to do here is kind of let them drive our conversation on Thursdays.

Overflowing With Great News


It is a cool thing.  And man do we get a lot of questions. I mean I have a stack here that’s almost as big as a good news Friday stack. There is so much good news to cover.  And we do that every Friday.  But Foundations of Freedom Thursday, so many good questions that stem from our heritage or from things related to the Constitution or application.

Today we’re going to cover things from supreme court justices and what can be done and how much Congress can limit that.  All the way to the building of the White House, even to holidays that we’ve just recently celebrated.  So all sorts of diversity in today’s program.


Well, speaking of those holidays, we’re a couple of weeks past the Christmas holidays-


I know.  Isn”€™t that sad? Well, let me say this.  You guys are a couple of weeks past. I’m still playing Christmas music. And the radio stations around here are still playing Christmas music till the first of the year. So- oh wait a minute.  We are after the first of the year.  Aren’t we?


Yeah, this would be like second Friday.


And the radio stations around here kept playing Christmas music long after Christmas was over.  So I’m not sure the holiday is passed yet. Maybe it is for you guys, you Grinches, you Scrooges. *Laughter*   But for people like me, it’s still the middle of the holiday season.

Is It Important To Say Merry Christmas


No wonder you’re so cheerful today. We’ll caller Colleen Ladson sent in this question.  So she  is still “€œ”€Merry Christmas-ing”€ us.  She said, “€œI wonder how you’d respond to the following post I saw written on Facebook in a reply to someone lamenting about hearing only “€˜Happy Holidays”€™ when they were shopping.  And not “€˜Merry Christmas”€™ anymore. Here’s what the post said, “€˜It’s not just Christmas time this month.  People also celebrate Hanukkah and Kwanzaa.  And we will all also be celebrating the new year.  So it is in fact the “€˜holiday season.”€™  Saying, “€˜Happy Holidays”€™ is not an insult but rather a way to be inclusive to the many other holidays celebrated this month since all of the human race does not just celebrate Christmas.”€™”€

So Colleen says, “€œAre those of us who see the removal of saying, “€˜Merry Christmas”€™ just being fussy and stubborn and making more out of it than it is? Thanks for your response.”€

Colleen, thanks for your question! David, are you just being fussy whenever we say, “€œHey look, it’s Christmas! And when you tell your employees they cannot say, “€˜Merry Christmas”€™ that’s a problem.”€


Yeah, I’ve been a little fussy.   I’ve got this thing.  There’s only one federally recognized holiday that’s occurring out of all the ones she just mentioned.  And it’s Christmas. I mean that’s a federal holiday. So it is Merry Christmas.  That is the holiday of the overwhelming majority of the people in the country. Yeah, if you want to get technical I guess we shouldn’t say, “€œHappy Fourth of July”€ anymore because there are other holidays that happen in July.  And maybe we ought to be more inclusive and say, “€œHappy July.”€

You know where do you stop this thing? I like the way that I saw some of the media do it this year. They said, “€œMerry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.”€ All right, I got that.  That’s fine.  That’s recognizing Christmas. But so much of this movement has been to get away from even saying the word “€œChristmas.”€

Follow the Money

And if it were not for the bad motives that we know that exist and part of the way we know they exist and that when we go to the pocketbooks of businesses and you know before Christmas time we had the Naughty and Nice list from both Tim Wildmon and also from Matt Staver. When you call the businesses on this they’ll go back to saying, “€œMerry Christmas.”€

And when you look at national polling people want to hear, “€œMerry Christmas.”€  They don’t want to hear, “€œHappy Holidays.”€  And all sorts of writings about Jewish folks who say- look I had one of my Jewish friends write me say, “€œMerry Christmas.”€  Really?   A jewish person? Yeah.  And I wrote him back and said, “€œHappy Hanukkah.”€ You know that’s great. We understand the holidays.


And we’re not just we’re not just kind of making it up in our head.  There was an effort to actually get rid of Christmas, not to be inclusive.  I mean the other side actually said, “€œI don’t want your religion crammed down my throat during the holiday  So I don’t want anybody saying, “€˜Merry Christmas.”€™”€ That was their attitude.

Efforts To Censor History


That was their attitude.  And they are very sensitive to even wiping history out. There is a lawsuit right now going in Pennsylvania over a William Penn quote.The Founder of Pennsylvania is William Penn.  Easy.  And William Penn said, “€œIf you won’t be governed by God, you’ll be governed by tyrants.”€

Well, the V.F.W put that on a park bench in Pennsylvania.  And there’s a lawsuit going to sue to remove the historical quote off the bench.

Now that’s an effort to censor history. You may not like the fact that Penn said, “€œGod, Welcome to America.  Welcome to free speech.  Welcome to all sorts of stuff.”€ My gosh. He is the Founder of Pennsylvania and he is a minister of the Gospel and he does say God in things.  You don’t just suddenly start censoring all the great speeches he made because they say God. But these guys do. And that’s the same effort with Christmas.


Right. Not to even mention that he was a learned man, student of history and the Bible and knew what would work in a culture society.  And the statement is true. Leave all that aside, just the fact that it was the Founder of Pennsylvania should be enough.

Are Christians Being Too Fussy


This is an effort to deny what happened in history.  And the same with Merry Christmas. Christmas was recognized as a federal holiday because it had such a substantial impact in world history and particularly in American history.

And one of the little posts we did back on Facebook leading up to Christmas was the John Quincy Adams speech that he gave where he says, “€œHey Christmas is directly tied to the 4th of July.”€  What the Founding Fathers did with the 4th of July was take the principles of Christmas, the principles that Christ brought in the world of his birth and they put him in into civil government.

Hey, there’s another Founding Father- but see no way those guys want to acknowledge that Christmas has any ties to the principles on which the nation was founded. So it really is an effort to discourage history. Yes. I’m being fussy about that.  And I hope.  Well, I know a whole lot of other people were because when they call the businesses, the businesses turn over and go in the right direction. We know from polling that a whole lot of the nation’s fussy.

Make All The Holidays Equal

Yes.   If about 3/4 of the nation is fussy if that’s what you want to call it. Yes.  Welcome to it.  But you know, to try to excuse it by saying, “€œWell there’s a lot of diversity out there. There is a lot of other holidays.”€ There is that for every single month we have a holiday.

We ought to just– you know why do we have Martin Luther King Day? Why don’t we have Martin Luther King and Medgar Evers and all the others?  Maybe we should have Happy Civil Rights Day and why do we limit it just to civil rights? There’s all sorts of other movements. Where do you stop this thing?

At some point you got to say, “€œThese are historically significant people, historically significant times.  We have holidays specifically passed to recognized them. Christmas is one of those times. Happy holidays. You bet. Call him by name if you want to. But Christmas is a federally recognized holiday.  And it is appropriate to say, “€˜Merry Christmas.”€


Well, Colleen thanks for sending in your question. It’s a great question by the way because we do sometimes overreact in some areas and all that.  This is not one of those areas.  This is absolutely important to defend the fact that it is Christmas and to keep Christ in these very special holidays. Great question you sent in, Colleen.

We’re gonna take a quick break. Be right back. We know it’s mid-January but hey Merry Christmas, everybody. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

Thomas Jefferson said, “€œ In questions of power then let no more be heard of confidence in the man that bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”€

Avalon Project

Hey guys this is Tim Barton with WallBuilders.  And I know you hear my dad and Rick talk a lot about our Founding Fathers about the original intent of our nation, a constitutional heritage that we have. And really we’ve seen how far we slipped away from that. And I know a lot of us as we hear my dad and Rick talk think, “€œI wish there was a place that I could go where I could see these documents and I could read and learn about the Founding Fathers firsthand.  See the things they did.”€  

I want to give you some websites today that can help you accomplish that very thing. If you get online you can go to places like Library of Congress and you can look under their century of lawmaking or historical documents. You can go to the Avalon Project, to the Founders Constitution, Google Books, or even the internet archives.  

Or you can just go to We have a section for our library. And under that section we have different subgroups for historical documents, historical writings, even a place where you can get helpful links to find out more information about other websites.  Where you can do research for yourself and find the truth for yourself. Friends, this is the time that we need to know who we are and where we came from. is a great place to go.

Am I Looking Back or Looking Forward

Thomas Jefferson said, “€œThe Constitution of most of our states and of the United States assert that all power is inherent in the people, that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed. That they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press.”€


Welcome back to WallBuilders Live, Foundations of Freedom Thursday. Every Thursday we try to dive into these foundational principles and love bringing those quotes out of the mouths of these kids quoting great Founders and presidents throughout history about the love of our Constitution and how blessed we are.

I’m Rick Green here with David Barton, America’s premiere historian.  And we’re taking your questions.  So send them into [email protected]. Next one comes from Jack–


Hang on, Rick.  Before you do that, I need your help and fixing the dilemma I’ve got here. We ended the last break with you saying, “€œIt’s mid-January.  We’re telling you Merry Christmas.”€

Well, I’m ending my e-mails and I’m still having Christmas in them even though we’re weeks after it.  Now and I can’t decide whether to say, “€œHappy post-Christmas or happy pre-Christmas.”€ Am I looking back or looking forward?


It’s only 12 months away.  Go for it.


All right. Happy Pre-Christmas?


Yeah.  Go ahead and start the mood for 12 months from now.


Because I’ve been saying, “€œHappy post-Christmas.”€  But you’re right, I need to be looking forward. We want to be forward looking.  Alright.  It’ll be a Happy Pre-Christmas.  That’s what I’ll be saying.


Do you even take your Christmas tree down or your lights?


Oh, no!  No, no, no, no.  My Christmas tree is still up.  My lights are still on every night. Still going.


Of course, listeners, this is a guy.  I’ve been at his ranch in the middle of summer when he turned the AC down to 50 so he can light a fire in it.  Feel like winter too. So I think he really does just love Christmas time.


Absolutely man.  Christmas music going on all year round.

Supreme Court Balance Of Power


All right.  Our question: Jack out of Topeka, Kansas was listening to us back in October. David, he said, “€œOn October 13th David discussed the power and authority granted by the Constitution to the Congress regarding Supreme Court judges and the justice system.”€

Listen to this next part. I love this.  This tells me our program has meaning and is making a difference.  He said, “€œThank you for that. It was new information to me and very enlightening.”€

People don’t know this stuff about the actual power of the different branches. He goes on to say, “€œI doubt if very many people or members of Congress for that matter are aware of Congress’ authority over the judicial system. Many people are concerned about who our president is because he or she appoints supreme court justices.  So part of the reason electing president is so important is because of this appointment power.  And some may even vote for president based solely on that power that the president has.”€

Pressure Congress To Take Back Their Constitutional Authority

Jack goes on to say, “€œAlthough it’s much simpler to focus on that aspect regarding the makeup of the court, wouldn’t serve us better in the long run to pressure Congress to take back their constitutional authority over the Supreme Court and judicial system?

For example, suppose it was Justice Ginsburg who died instead of Scalia. From what I’ve heard David say about the Constitution, Congress could choose not to replace that justice and continue to drop bad judges by attrition. Could they not? I’m sure there would be a lot of public outrage about that.  But if Congress does indeed have that authority, it’s time it became part of the public discourse.

It might get a little complicated though if the Supreme Court ends up having to rule on whether or not Congress has that constitutional authority. Wouldn’t that all be fun to watch? What do you think about the possibility, impracticality of voters pushing for Congress to get both their authority and their collective spine back? Thanks for all you do.”€

Supreme Court Should Only Hear 10 Types Of Cases


Jack, great question. David, I know you’re going to have fun with this one.  Go for it.


Yeah.  And I agree with them there would be a lot of public outrage if this were to happen. But the reason will be public outrage is people don’t know our history and they don’t know the Constitution. There should not be any public outrage.  The people should line up and say, “€œExactly right.  When you look specifically at the powers that are given in the U.S. Constitution to the Supreme Court, there are 10.  And they tell them what types of cases they can hear.

The Absolute Right of Congress

Only 10 types of cases can the Supreme Court hear.  Other than that Article 3 Section 2 the exceptions clause says, “€œCongress has the right to decide every single issue the Supreme Court hears outside of those 10.”€ Congress can pass a majority law.  The president can sign it says, “€œNo issue of abortion will ever come before the Supreme Court of the United States.”€ End of story. That’s it.

If Congress can pass a law that says, “€œNo religious liberty issue shall ever come before the Supreme Court of the United States.”€ That’s end of story right there. There’s only 10 things the Constitution says that the Supreme Court can deal with.  Every single thing it deals with pass that, that is because Congress allows it to do so.


By the way, the Supreme Court itself has said that that power you’re describing that most people don’t think that the Congress has.  That they have it. They call it positive exception.  And it’s the power of Congress to take stuff away from the court.  And even the Supreme Court said, “€œThat’s an absolute right of Congress.”€


That”€™s right! That’s explicitly written in the Constitution. In the same way if you read the Constitution on the federal judiciary, the only thing the Constitution authorizes in the federal judiciary is, A., the Supreme Court.  Doesn’t say how many justices.  

That’s why originally President Washington– Congress said, “€œOk choose 1 chief justice, 5 associate justices.”€ The original court was six. It can go up or down from that.  It’s been 8 and 9.

Congress can say, “€œHey we’re tired of this. We’re going to have only 3 justices and they can only hear those 10 issues.”€

They can wipe out every lower court that exists the Constitution calls them inferior courts and says that Congress can create and abolish them any time they want to.”€ So if you get tired of the 54 million out of the ninth circuit having to deal with that nonsense on a regular basis.  Congress just pops in and says, “€œHey we’re abolishing the ninth circuit.”€ and they’re all gone.

If We Taught the Constitution There Wouldn”€™t Be a Public Outrage

Then Congress can come in the next day and say, “€œHey we’re authorized a new ninth circuit.  And now we’ve got to have a bunch of new justices.”€ And so you don’t get these guys that have been on there for 50 years doing their nonsense out and those seven western states. I mean there is so much authority given by the Constitution to the Congress that if citizens knew that and if citizens knew their history and knew how these these clauses had been used if we still taught the Constitution there would not be the public outrage.

Government BY The PEOPLE

But I mean the judicial issues we would not be voting on any president based on Supreme Court nominees or federal judicial appointments if we knew the Constitution. Because when the first original chief justice U.S. Supreme Court was John Jay an author of The Federalist Papers.  He’s the guy who is one of the authors of the chief commentary on the Constitution.

And when John Adams became president he asked Chief Justice John Jay to stay on.  And Jay said, “€œNo no.  The Supreme Court will never amount to anything. I’m not going to go back to practicing law where I can really get something done.”€

Really? Who would say that today about the Supreme Court? That’s the guy that wrote the chief commentary on the Constitution. He knew what the Constitution said about the court that it would never amount to anything. See that’s where we need to be back to is that kind of constitutional understanding.

Appoint New Justices


And Jack didn”€™t asked this.  He asked about attrition for the court.  But couldn’t Congress also make the argument that we’re a much larger nation.  You look at other nations and even the European Union and the size of their courts or whatever.  So we want to go to 15 or we want to go to 21 or whatever.  And give the new president those appointments or even stagger it over the next decade and add a few every year. They could do that if they wanted.  Totally in their authority.


We’ve already seen that historically with President Roosevelt’s court packing scheme. He had a court that ruled against him.  So he said, “€œOk I’ve got, I don’t know, 8 justice on the court.  I’m going to add another nine. We will have 17.  And then I’ll have my nine guys on the court.”€

And don’t anybody ever say, “€œThe courts aren’t political.  They are political.”€ After he threatened that court packing scheme all of a sudden the Supreme Court started ruling his way in decision after decision.


The switch in time that saved nine.

People Should Have Final Say On Their Policies


Exactly right.  And so it is the kind of thing where it should never be a political branch but it is.  It has become so. And if it’s going to become so then limit that sucker. Let’s keep politics over in the House, the Senate, and the president where it”€™s supposed to be. If the court’s going to become political you know get rid of it as it exists.  And go back to it being being as John Jay said, “€œIt will never amount to anything.”€ That’s the way it should be because then the people have the final say on their policies.


That’s right and of course John Jay”€™s co-author of The Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton said, “€œWe wouldn’t even have to worry about losing our liberty from the court because it didn’t have the power to make law or enforce it.”€ It said that we didn’t have to worry about it as long as it stayed in its box and it only did what it was supposed to do. But if it ever got over there and got into the legislative branch or the executive branch and did their job then we should be very concerned.  And that’s exactly what has happened.

Congress Has More Power Than It Knows


And remember he said, “€œOf the three branches this (judicial) is the weakest beyond comparison.”€ It doesn”€™t even compare. Here you are holding a 40,000 Looman flashlight and I’ve got a match over here.

That’s the comparison judiciary to Congress and the president from those who wrote the Constitution. It does not even compare to the other two branches.  It”€™s the weakest beyond comparison. And by the way if it ever does get out of out of line as he pointed out in federal 78 we have constitutional arms of self-defense.

We have given Congress all the things they need to defend themselves from the courts. Except who reads the Constitution?  Who got taught it in school?  How many members of Congress actually know they have this power? Well, if you study history and Constitution you know you’ve got this power but not many know that today.

And so that’s where the outrage would come from including among members of Congress. And if he had time to re-educate them and say, “€œ No, no, no, guys.  Look.  Here’s what the document says it”€™s self.  Here’s what the Constitution, here’s the Federalist Papers.  Here’s historical precedent.”€ They”€™d go, “€œ Yeah, I never knew that. I’m willing to change.”€

I have personally seen congressmen change on that very issue when they get educated. So I know that it works. It’s just a matter of getting the information to them.


And we the people have got to get educated. Got to take a quick break, folks.  If you want to learn more about this.  You can tell David I get kind of excited about this topic because we know how important this one is.  You can learn more in our program Constitution Alive. It’s available at right now.

We take you through the entire Constitution and we spend a lot of time on Article 3 and the court because of what’s happened and how it’s been distorted from what the Founders intended. But a lot of great stuff in there for you to learn. Check that out at our website today. We’ll be right back on WallBuilders Live.

The True Corrective of Abuses of Constitutional Power

President Thomas Jefferson said, “€œI know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves. And if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.”€

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How to Get The Left To Listen And Understand

Abraham Lincoln said, “€œWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”€


Welcome back.  Thanks for staying with us here at WallBuilders Live Foundations of Freedom Thursday today. We’ve got time for one more question.  This one comes from Michael.  He says that he’s tried to share truth with African-Americans regarding the Democrat Party and how the Democrats have raped, lynched, and brutally killed many of their ancestors and thus try to find out why they still vote for the Democrat Party. He said he’s shared with them how the Democrat Party supported slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation, racism.  

And their normal responses that the Republican Party has changed and is no longer the party of Lincoln. They say the party changed and is for the rich. And now the Democrat Party under FDR and JFK helped them instead of the Republicans.

So Michael asked, “€œHow would you respond to their claim that the Republican Party has changed and that now is the Democrat Party that looks out for them? How can someone wake them up from their hard mentality and physical enslavement of voting to Democrats?

Pastors And Politics

He has another question.  David it’s a good question, he said, “€œ I am amazed at how many pastors will not talk about politics from the pulpit. From time to time you’ve had messages from pastors on your program that did speak out on political or moral issues.

I’d love to have their websites because I’ll start going to church online. I’m very frustrated with the condition of most churches where the pastors and congregation consider it a sin to talk about politics at all. Thanks for your time, sincerely Michael Kelly.”€

So David to big question to see if we can get a both in in the time we have left.

Recommendation For Political Preaching Pastors


Second question first.  I listen to two preachers on a regular basis. I love them both.  As you know, I like practical stuff. One is Tim Brooks.  He is with Christian Ministries Church in Hot Springs, Arkansas.He’s online at  Go download his podcast sermons.  They are great.

The second is Charles Stanley. I love Charles Stanley.  He is very applicable, practical, and he takes issues of the day and deals with them very well.

So those are the two that I listen to because I do like those practical sermons where the Bible applies to every aspect of life.

On the first one, the thing about, “€œOh well, the Democrat Party has changed –the Republicans. And now the Republicans are for the rich, etc.”€ Well then please explain to me why that in the last election in the exit polling the rich overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Why big business and Wall Street overwhelmingly voted for Hillary. Why that middle class America and small businesses voted for Trump. Where is that change? No.  As you see, the Republicans are still the blue collar kind of guys.  That’s not what we’re told.  But that’s what the voting shows.

You Think Democrats Jumped Over To Be “€œRacist”€ Republicans

The other thing about hearing about all these “€œracist Democrats”€ back when Brown versus Board of Education came down and desegregation is ordered by the court. It was all the Democrat governors who stood at schoolhouses and said, “€œNo way blacks are coming in here.”€  

The governor of Georgia as I recall shut down the entire public school system for a year rather than allow any any blacks into the public school system. In Louisiana, you had Ruby Bridges who was a first grader.  It took four federal marshals to usher her into elementary school to save her from the attacks of the angry Democrats.  And as it turned, nearly all the whites quit going to school there.  She basically had the whole school to herself with four marshals protect.”€

I mean it is crazy. You look back at what Democrats did with the lynching stuff.  Literally where they owned it. We’ve got the congressional hearings where they own it and say, “€œYeah, that is us.”€

You look at what they did and 1893 when they took control of Congress they repealed the 24 civil rights laws. When you look at the 11 different forms of Black Coach or Jim Crow Laws they’re the ones who passed those.

They say, “€œWell it changed.”€ You see it changed in the 60s because what happened was all those racist Democrats joined the Republican Party.”€  Well, that doesn’t make any sense because Republicans didn’t take control of legislatures until the last 8-10 years.  So you’re telling me that racist Democrats jumped over to be racist Republicans and get in the minority? No, no, no, that doesn’t work. Because those policies lasted all that period of time.

Name Me 10 People Racist Democrats that Became Republican

Here’s the way I really kind of settle the argument. I say, “€œOk, you’re looking across all these 11 former Confederate states, 11 southern states that were really big in the Jim Crow Laws and anti reconstruction.  You have thousands and thousands of elected Democrats in those states.

Here’s the task.  All you have to do is show me 10 racist Democrats that became racist Republicans. Show me 10 and I’ll buy your argument.  I won’t even require thousands even though you’re talking like the majority did. So I could say, “€œShow me two or three thousand.”€  But I will just say, “€œShow me 10.”€

Setting The Record Straight:  American History In Black And White

And they can’t. They can’t even show me Strom Thurmond who ran on the Democrat side to support segregation, etc. But then he became a Republican.  And what did he do?  He became the first southern U.S. senator to appoint blacks to high positions in his Senate office. He had a change of heart as a Republican.  

So they say that.  And that’s the way they defend themselves. It’s not true.  For people who want to know more about this we’ve got a DVD and a book on this called, “€œSetting the Record Straight, American History in Black and White.”€

But just ask them, name me 10 that have done that and maybe I’ll buy your argument.  And they can”€™t do it.


And that Setting the Record Straight Video has some great re-enactments, full blown sets of Congress in the 1860s and 70s, first Black speaking in Congress, and just powerful, powerful re-enactments.  So check that out. We’ll have links for that and also Constitution Alive at our website today at

Thank you for listening! Send in your questions to us [email protected] so we can get to them on our Foundations of Freedom Thursday. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live!

Thomas Jefferson said, “€œThe Constitution of most of our states and of the United States assert that all power is inherent in the people that they may exercise it by themselves that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed. That they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press.”€