The Biblical Right Of Self-Defense – Part 3: Why is it vital to understand the basic concept of self-defense? What was the Founders’ original intent of the Second Amendment? What is the true danger we are facing? Why is the Castle Doctrine so important? Who gives us the right of self-defense? How do we preserve our freedom? Tune in to hear the biblical, historical and constitutional basis for the right of self-defense!

Air Date:  04/14/2021

Guest: The Green Family

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton

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FAITH AND THE CULTURE

Rick:

Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. It’s WallBuilders Live, where we talk about the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective, maybe no hotter topic right now than the issue of gun control, self-defense. What can the government do? What can we do as citizens? And how do we approach this subject?

Well, like everything else, here at WallBuilders, we look at it from that biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. And so this week, we are talking about the Biblical Right of Self-defense. It’s a four part series. It’s a presentation that I do during the Constitutional Defense course, where we take 300 people with us once a month, sometimes twice a month out to Front Sight.

And during the day, we get fantastic the best handgun defense training in the country. And then in the evenings, I do the Constitution training, where we learn the intellectual ammunition on how to defend our nation and restore our Constitution.

So we’re bringing you that presentation here on WallBuilders Live, also encourage you to you to go with us in person to learn these things, and also to get that physical training that you need. If you’d like to join us on one of those Constitutional Defense courses, go to constitutioncoach.com, constitutioncoach.com and get signed up.

These courses, by the way, normally are $2,000. If you go to the website for this course at Front Sight, it is 2,000 bucks to do this course. But with us, if you’re a WallBuilders listener, you can go with us, you can do our three day course for only $99 or the full five day course for only $199. 

So it’s literally a 10th of the price of what it would normally be. So if you’re a WallBuilders listener, check that out today at constitutioncoach.com and join us for this amazing time together.

If you missed yesterday and the day before, those were available right now on our website at wallbuilderslive.com. We’re going to take a quick break. When we come back from the break, we’ll dive right back in where we left off yesterday with the Biblical Right of Self-defense.

A MOMENT FROM AMERICAN HISTORY

This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. In 1963, the United States Supreme Court decided that voluntary Bible reading could no longer be part of the school day. Founding Father Benjamin Rush, known as the “Father of Public Schools” under the Constitution, pointedly warned that the Bible should be read in schools in reference to all other books. 

He specifically warned that if America ever ceased promoting biblical principles in schools, then we would waste so much time and money and punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them. He was right.

We now have 7 million Americans in prison on probation or on parole, and the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Sadly, this was unnecessary but is the result of no longer teaching the morals of the Bible in schools. For more information about the Founding Fathers views on the positive impact of the Bible in schools, go to wallbuilders.com.

Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Let’s dive in. This is the Biblical Right of Self-defense, part three.

Rick:

Anybody read the news lately on London? London’s Mayor Declares Intense New ‘Knife Control’ policies to stop epidemics. I love you read the articles said, at the end of the article, it says we’re not sure yet what they’re going to use to cut their food now, but they’re going to make sure that they limit… 

Look, we get rid of the guns, we use knives, you get rid of the knives, we use rocks… I mean, what is the terrorist weapon of choice right now, a car or a truck, right? Big semi-truck. That’s the terrorist’s… I don’t see any calls for car control and whatever the next call might be. It is not the inanimate object.

I love the response of one of the sheriffs in Florida to all this. He’s got this daily called the Sentinel Program. He said there’s gun control on every campus in Florida. And I would submit across the United States that you can’t bring a gun on campus and no one does, except for the crazy person, the active shooter: there has to be a line of defense.

And so what they’re doing is they’re deputizing teachers and getting them trained and getting them armed. Something that Dr. Piazza has been calling for years and still offers to train teachers for free that want to come out here Front Sight for that very reason so that you have good guys and gals with guns at the schools to stop the bad guys.

WE MUST UNDERSTAND THE BASIC CONCEPT

Now, let me talk a little bit about why it’s so important for us to get the basic concept down, not just the logic. Tim Barton who’s with us tonight, and I do a radio program called WallBuilders Live. And we’ve had some crazy, crazy examples over the years of things that have happened in response to some of these school shootings where kids are literally getting kicked out of school, suspended over things like this kid, seven-years-old suspended because he bit his pop tart into a gun shape. There’s a rash of pop tart shootings across the country, I guess.

A Maryland first grader suspended for making a gun gesture with his hand. We have the toy gun, you know, the bubble guns that blow bubbles that literally the police showed up at the house as a result of it. Just couple weeks ago, this social worker was fired just because on Facebook, she talked about the fact she had a concealed carry permit, did he never had her gun with her at work, still fired. We’ve all seen the protests and the walkouts and the calls and all of these things.

Now, we’ve got a former Supreme Court Justice actually saying yes, let’s repeal the Second Amendment, actually, get rid of it. So folks, we’re reaching a dire moment in our history where we can’t combat this just by saying you guys are crazy. There’s a lot of people in positions of power that want to get rid of the Second Amendment, that want to infringe upon your right to keep and bear arms. 

So let’s go back in history and look at what these guys actually said. Let’s find out what the Founders actually intended by the Second Amendment. So real quick, let me fly through some of these original proposals when they were debating the Bill of Rights.

New Hampshire had a proposal. They said “Congress shall never disarm any citizen.” This one from Massachusetts, that the said “Constitution be never construed to prevent the people the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” Pennsylvania, “No law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them.”

Here’s some constitutional commentaries early on. Zephaniah Swift, he was author of America’s first legal tech. He said “Self-defense or self-preservation is one of the first laws of nature, again, so the first laws of nature which no man ever resigned upon entering into society.” 

THE FOUNDERS ON THE 2ND AMENDMENT

So in other words, when you decide to be a part of a culture, or you’re part of a society say, I’m going to follow the law. You don’t give up your right to defend yourself and to defend your family.

William Raleigh said “In the Second Amendment, it is declared that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction”, meaning we couldn’t figure out some way to stand just right to interpret some claws out of the Constitution, and how we interpret that construction, we could never be conceived to give Congress a power to disarm the people. “If in any blind pursuit of power, either the state or federal government should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both.”

James Kant’s, one of our two American founders of jurisprudence, he said “The municipal law of our country has likewise left with individuals the exercise of the natural right of self-defense. The right of self-defense is founded in the law of nature and is not and cannot be superseded by the law of society.” 

You guys getting the rhythm here? What are these guys saying? They’re saying this is an innate law of nature. God gave you this right, gave you this self-defense concept, and government should not take it away.

Now, Joseph’s story, was one of our Supreme Court Justices early on that wrote most of the opinions during his tenure on the court, highly respected Justice. And he warns us, he says “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered the palladium of the liberties of a republic.” In other words, this is the foundation, without this one, it’s the protector of all the other ones. 

Without it, you’ll lose the other ones. He said “It offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers.” See, this is that has nothing to do with hunting. This doesn’t even refer to that immediate self-defense against an individual attacking you. 

You hear how often they’re talking about protecting ourselves from what? Government, from a tyranny of a government. So it goes on to say “It will enable the people to triumph over them.” Here’s what’s happened. Okay, this is the danger we’re in.

Alright, friends, we got to take another quick break. Sorry to interrupt real quick, we’ll be right back. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

THE AMERICAN STORY

Hey, guys, we want to let you know about a new resource we have at WallBuilders called The American Story. For so many years, people have asked us to do a history book to help tell more of the story that’s just not known or not told today. And we would say very providentially in the midst of all of the new attacks coming out against America, whether it be from things like the 1619 project, I’d say America is evil.

And everything in America was built off slavery, which is certainly not true or things like even the Black Lives Matter movement, the organization itself, not out the statement, Black Lives Matter. But the organization that says we’re against everything that America was built on, and this is part of the Marxist ideology. There’s so many things attacking America.

Well, is America worth defending? What is the true story of America we actually have written and told that story starting with Christopher Columbus, going roughly through Abraham Lincoln, we tell the story of America not as the story of a perfect nation of a perfect people. But the story of how God used these imperfect people and did great things through this nation. It’s a story you want to check out wallbuilders.com, The American Story.

Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. This is the Biblical Right of Self-defense we’ve been sharing today yesterday, the day before and then we’ll get the conclusion tomorrow. I know that sounds confusing. Basically, it’s a four part series, and today is part three. Let’s jump back into it. And then also make sure you don’t miss tomorrow for the conclusion. Let’s dive back into the Biblical Right of Self-defense.

“INDIFFERENCE MAY LEAD TO DISGUST”

There is certainly no small danger that in difference. So Reagan was kind of addressing that a little bit earlier when he said, you may not care about self-defense and training and guns and all those things like our family, so you might be indifferent to those things. But what happens? 

Joseph’s story says that indifference may lead to disgust. So if you’re not, you know, you haven’t studied these things, you haven’t trained, you maybe never touched a gun before, never fired a gun before, you see all these school shootings, you think it has got to be the guns fault, it’s the gun. 

So indifference leads to disgust, disgust to contempt, and then he says it does gradually undermines all the protection intended by this clause of our national Bill of Rights.

So he’s saying, don’t let it start with that indifference. Now, I’m going to give you several Founding Fathers quotes here. Before I run through a bunch of these, let me just tell you, these are not something that Tim and I got together and made up. Alright. We go to these original documents. I mentioned Tim and I do the radio program. I didn’t tell you that sometimes we dig around in the library and find some really cool documents.

Recently, we had some potential water damage, we had to move a bunch of stuff. And so Tim and I were down there, we’re moving some old stuff. Behind the shelf, we found some stuff we didn’t even know that they had and it’s pretty cool stuff. I mean, we haven’t released it publicly on the internet or on radio yet, but I wanted to share it with you tonight. So Tim, thank you for letting me have a copy.

We actually found the original tweets of the Founding Fathers right there in the WallBuilders library. So I’m just I don’t have all of them with me tonight, but let me just as few of them that were happening right when they were at the Continental Congress there in 1776. Thomas Jefferson is the first one.

THE FOUNDERS’ TWEETS

Tommy J says “Hey, guys, working on new draft of the Declaration, which unalienable rights do you want to include? #Independence.” John Adams response @TommyJ, life, liberty, and Twitter app, it doesn’t stink. Am I right? #Independence.” John Adams, “By the way, who has picks from the last Continental Congress? I want to upload them to Facebook.” You didn’t know Facebook was that old, did you? 

Paul Revere says “Breaking: The British are coming.” James Madison, “Hide your kids. Hide your wife. British are coming.” King George, “You guys know I can see everything you’re tweeting.” Right? Thomas Jefferson settings tweet privacy, protect my tweets. Okay. That’s from the folks at Mashable. It’s not actually from Tim. Sorry, Tim, I lied about you tonight, don’t tell your dad. Alright.

Let’s get back to the Founders. So George Mason I mentioned earlier, Father of the Bill of Rights, right, this is one of the very, very important Founding Fathers. He said 40 years ago, when the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British parliament was advised to disarm the people, that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them, but that they should not do it openly, but to weaken them and let them sink gradually.

Sam Adams said, “The Constitution should never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceful citizens from keeping their own arms.” Patrick Henry, of course, we always hear give me liberty or give me death. He also said “The great object is that every man be armed. 

Everyone who is able, may have a gun.” Even George Washington himself “A free people ought to be armed.” James Madison, “The advantage of being armed is an advantage which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. In the several kingdoms of Europe, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”

John Adams, “Resistance to sudden violence for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs and my life, but of my property is an indisputable right of nature”, back to those laws of nature, “which I never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps I could not surrender, if I would. The maxims of the law and the precepts of Christianity are precisely coincident in relation to this subject.” 

Hamilton said something very similar. He said, “The Supreme Being gave existence to man, together with the means of preserving that existence, he invested man with an inviolable right to personal liberty and personal safety.”

James Wilson, now this is other book that I brought, ended up bringing tonight to share with you. And you could tell this is an old book, I can’t believe, Tim, that you trusted me with this thing. I feel like this one is going to fall apart on stage, there’s going to be caught on camera, and then I’m going to be in a lot of trouble. 

THE CASTLE DOCTRINE

So I’m going to be really, really careful. But this is such a fantastic quote from James Wilson. Let me tell you James Wilson for you for a second.

This is another name you may not know. But this guy signed both the Declaration and the Constitution, one of only six guys to do that. So he helped frame it and he signed both of them. He’s actually appointed by George Washington to serve on the United States Supreme Court. He’s one of the original six on the United States Supreme Court. He gave us a very clear American explanation of the Castle Doctrine.

He said “It is the great natural law of self-preservation that cannot be repealed or superseded or suspended by any human institution. The right of the citizens to bear arms in the defensive themselves shall not be questioned. 

Every man’s house is deemed by the law to be his castle, and the law while it invests him with the power enjoins on him the duty of the commanding officer. Every man’s house is his castle. He ought to keep and defend it at his peril. And if anyone be robbed in it, it shall be esteemed his own default and negligence.”

Never heard that before? If you get robbed in your house, whose fault is it? According to James Wilson, very important Founding Father and major legal scholar, he said, you get rob in your house, it’s your fault. Why? Because we wouldn’t want a police officer to be in every house. Right? We don’t want one on every street corner. We don’t want a police state. So we as individuals, not only have the right, but we have the duty to defend ourselves. That’s the Castle Doctrine that he’s talking about, didn’t just start with America. Some legal scholars would say that goes all the way back to the Old Testament, that it was very clear you have the right of self-defense, even in the Levitical law and the way that it’s explained and how those things take place.

So the Second Amendment is not what gives you the right of self-defense. The laws of nature and nature’s God give you the right of self-defense. The Second Amendment prevents the government from infringing on that right and as a reminder to the government, that it is their job to protect and defend your right of self-defense. That’s why we train. 

THE “COURT-STITUTION”

That’s why we do what we’re doing this weekend in Front Sight, is to be prepared to defend. But we’ve got to start defending it intellectually in a world that is turning against this concept of self-defense so that we can keep that indifference from turning to disgust, and that’s ultimately losing this very, very important freedom.

Part of our challenge that we need to be aware of and the reason we dive so much further as we go into this particular course, this is just the beginning of the course. The reason we do this, because I hate to tell you this, as we are gathered for Constitution class, but America is not governed by the Constitution anymore. The Constitution, the actual words of the Constitution no longer govern our land. In fact, we are governed by what I call the “COURTS-stitution.”

It is a new law of the land that these guys on the court, just five out of nine, unelected, unaccountable Justices throw a phrase in here, and they throw a phrase in there and they create this concoction we now know as the “COURTS-stitution” and that becomes the law of the land. And what’s actually said in the Constitution doesn’t even matter. 

What matters now is what those Justices decide, what they actually write, what their opinion is becomes the law of the land, because we don’t understand how the Constitution actually was intended to work. And we bought the lie that has been perpetrated on us by the legal community, by the education system. And it’s our job to turn that around. We start by actually breaking the Constitution out ourselves.

Rick:

Alright, friends, final interruption for the day, we got to take our last break of the day. When we come back, we’ll get the conclusion of part three of the Biblical Right of Self-defense.

CONSTITUTION ALIVE!

Have you ever wanted to learn more about the United States Constitution, but just felt like man, the classes are boring, or it’s just that old language from 200 years ago, or I don’t know where to start? People want to know, but it gets frustrating because you don’t know where to look for truth about the constitution either.

Well, we’ve got a special program for you available now called Constitution Alive! With David Barton and Rick Green. And it’s actually a teaching done on the Constitution at Independence Hall in the very room where the constitution was framed. We take you both to Philadelphia, the cradle of liberty and Independence Hall and to the WallBuilders’s library, where David Barton brings the history to life to teach the original intent of our Founding Fathers.

We call it the Quickstart Guide to the Constitution, because in just a few hours through these videos, you will learn the citizen’s guide to America’s constitution, you’ll learn what you need to do to help save our constitutional republic. It’s fun, it’s entertaining, and it’s going to inspire you to do your part to preserve freedom for future generations. It’s called onstitution Alive! With David Barton and Rick Green. You can find out more information on our website now at wallbuilders.com.

Rick:

We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Alright, we’re done with commercials for the day, done with breaks for the day, let’s jump back in for the conclusion of part three of the Biblical Right of Self-defense. Don’t forget, even with the time we’ve got left today, we’re only going to finish out part three. So tomorrow will be the final conclusion of this presentation on the Biblical Right of Self-defense. Let’s pick up where we left off before the break.

Rick:

I love these bumper stickers, “I know you’re liberal, read the Constitution.” Got Constitution read the Constitution. Of course, we need to be reading the Constitution, because at the end of the day, even the Constitution itself is not going to save us, it’s not going to protect us. 

That goes with a guy at the original constitutional convention named John Francis Mercer. He actually said the Constitution is not even going to govern the United States. He said it’s a great mistake to suppose that the paper we are to propose will govern the United States.

HOW WE STAND

So wait a minute. Framers of the Constitution is saying that the Constitution is not going to govern the United States. Is that’s a mistake, if you think that? He’s said, no, it’s not the Constitution itself, it’s the men whom it, the Constitution.
 

So if you’re following it, the people that it will bring into the government and the interest that they have in maintaining it and protecting the actual Constitution, the paper is only going to mark out the mode in the form, mid of the substance and must do the business.

In other words, the document sets up the rules for how this game is going to be played. But who we put on the field, who we elect, who ends up on the bench, if they’re willing to govern around the Constitution, shred the Constitution, destroy the Constitution, ignore the Constitution, if they’re willing to do that, and we’re willing to sit back and let them do that, then Constitution means nothing. And that’s how we’ve got in the mess that we are.

So the first thing we’ve got to do is stand up and say, I refuse my consent to this. Declaration talks about the consent of the governed. We got to stand up and say, this is wrong, this has got to stop. We want to restore the Constitution. We want to come back to the original intent of what the framers intended.

So part of what we’re teaching in Constitutional Defense is not only the importance of learning to train to defend ourselves physically, but the intellectual ammunition. We walk through the entire Constitution, it’s going to be seven episodes. Brad Ackman, and Eric Rogers, and I go out to Philadelphia, we filmed there in Independence Hall, and Congress Hall and all these places. 

I do the class, walking through the entire Constitution, actually, in the room, at Independence Hall. We actually put “Chasing American Legends” in the box. I mean, all of these things are available to you and you get to go visit all these places with us through that DVD set. So check that out, you’ll get an email I’m sure at some point, from Dr. Piazza to talk about it and its availability.

But here’s my challenge to you. And I know I need to be circling, I’m circling, doesn’t mean I’m landing. It means I could land at any time, so be ready. Well, here’s my challenge to you. I honestly believe this, some of you’re going to think I’m exaggerating. I truly believe that the fate of the free world depends on you. Now, you may say, Rick, you’re exaggerating. What am I going to do about this? Just follow my logic here.

THE FATE OF THE FREE WORLD

How many of you would agree the fate of the free world still today depends on America? Do you agree with that? Okay. 

How many of you would agree that America, if we’re going to last depends upon a restoration of our constitutional principles? Would you agree with that? How many of you would agree that restoring our constitutional principles depends upon the first three words of the Constitution? Which is what? We, the people? Right. So it depends on us.

So just, you know, look at the fate of the free world depends on America, if America depends on the constitution be restored, if constitution be restored depends on we the people, take the shortcut, the fate of free world depends on us. It depends on us doing our duty under the Constitution to restore these principles. 

It’s that serious. It’s that important. And we can’t wait. We got to do something now. We’ve got to start taking the action steps. We’ve got to be willing to stand up for the very things that others died for, that they sacrificed so much for, for us to be free.

So I’m going to leave with a couple of quotes. And I’m going to bring up one more special speaker that’s going to share with you a way that you can get involved and make a difference. This guy here is John Jay, he’s the first Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court. He’s also one of the authors of the Federalist Papers.

So as you begin to study the Constitution, the Federalist Papers are a great instruction manual, if you will. It’s a great way to be able to go in and say what do they really mean by this phrase, or that phrase? Federalist Papers help us to understand that.

 Here’s one of the three guys that gave it to us. But he also challenged us to study this thing. He said, “Every member of the state ought diligently to read and to study.” 

So the bumper sticker says, “Read the Constitution.” That’s not enough. We got to study the Constitution, which means we’re going to look at those words and not say, well, what does that mean today? We have to study what those words mean 200 years ago when they were put into the Constitution. So we got to read and study, and then we got to teach the rising generation to be free.

We have to teach this next group of young people that’s coming up how to be free, what does it mean to be free, what is freedom, how do you define freedom, and how do we make sure that their generation is going to enjoy it? He said, “By knowing their rights, the sooner they will perceive when those rights have been violated, and the better prepared they will be to defend and assert them.” That’s our job.

TEACH THE RISING GENERATION

So every one of us, every single member states, that’s every citizen, you don’t have to be a teacher, a preacher, whatever, you’re a citizen, you fall into this category, so every single one of us need to read and study the Constitution. 

We need to teach the next generation how to do this. And then by knowing our rights, by having this intellectual ammunition, we’ll know when they will perceive when those rights are being violated, which I think we’re all perceiving right now as we look into the culture, but then we’ll also know how to properly, constitutionally, peaceably defend and assert them.

You see, we have all the tools we need at our fingertips right now to be able to peaceably influence our nation. We can have a revolution with ballots, not with bullets, with ballots. We can actually work the system. The system works if we’re willing to get engaged. If we’re willing to work smart in this system, we can have a great influence.

In fact, Tim and I do it every Friday a show called Good News Friday on our radio program. I encourage you to listen to that. Because if you’re getting frustrated right now thinking it’s all over, I got friends that say, it’s all over, Rick, grab your guns and canned food, go hide out at the ranch, America’s done. Now, I would recommend buying the ranch and have the canned food. Okay. But it’s not over.

There are so many good things happening in our country. The tools are all there. So what we do on Good News Fridays, man, Tim and David just fly through story after story after story of good things that are happening in our culture. So here’s the challenge. We’ve got this duty and responsibility as citizens. 

The Reverend Matthias Burnett told us in 1801, he said “To God and posterity, you are accountable for your rights and your rulers. Let not your children have reason to curse you for giving up those rights and prostrating those institutions which your fathers delivered to you.”

The Biblical Right Of Self-Defense – Part 3

Rick:

Alright, friends, out of time for today, that was part three of the Biblical Right of Self-defense. Tomorrow, we get the conclusion of the Biblical Right of Self-defense. So this is a four part series. 

If you missed part of the day or any of the last two days before this, it’s all available on our website at wallbuilderslive.com. Wallbuilderslive.com, that’s where you can get this entire presentation. That’s also where you can make that one-time or monthly contribution. This program is possible because of listeners just like you. Thank you so much, for donating, all of you across the country.

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