International News – The NFL And More On Good News Friday - Join us today to hear good international news, the faith of Minnesota quarterback Kirk Cousins, the revival at Fort Leonard Wood and more.

Air Date: 03/13/2020

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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Rick Green: This was Wall Builders Live, thanks for joining us today at the Intersection of Faith and the Culture. We’re going to be taking a look at some of the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical and constitutional perspective. And today is good news Friday, which means we’ll be looking at some good news from across the nation and around the world. We’re here with David Barton. He’s America’s premier historian and our founder at Wall Builders. Tim Barton is with us, National Speaker and Pastor and President of Wall Builders, and my name is Rick Green. I’m a former Texas Legislator and America’s constitution coach.

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Hi David, Tim, let’s dive in to some of that good news. David Barton will be starting us off. First piece of good news is coming from, wait, I want to guess, I want to guess. It’s a, I have no idea what’s in your stack. It’s going to be from Minnesota and has to do with the courts? Not even close, right?

David Barton: Man, if I have to wait for you to get this right, it may be weeks before, if that’s an indication…

Rick Green: I thought the courts would be a good guess, because you always got a piece of good news from the court at some point in our program.

David Barton: But Minnesota?

Rick Green: The courts, it just came to mind. And even, I’m going to get emails from people in Minnesota saying I said it wrong. So for Minnesota, there. And it’s not even from Minnesota, but we’ve made that part of our program today. What is it from anywhere? And where it from?

David Barton: It is international of all places. So lots of countries and by the way, I would say that president Trump, he doesn’t get much credit for this. But I would say that he has done a whole lot in changing the international climate in a lot of ways. I mean, it’s just not hearing anything from North Korea any more now, you know. It was real visible for a while and they had the spit and match back and forth, and, you know, Trump backed him down and then we’re going to talk, and then he stands back up and Trump’s not going to tell me what to do. And all that being said, North Korea has kind of gone silent on us and you just don’t hear all their clamor and bluster and noise anymore.

And then you look at China, you know, and he says, “We’re going to do all of this trade embargoes and tariffs and whatever.” And people say, “Oh, that’s going to kill the economy. And the Chinese yelled and said, “Well, we’re doing retaliatory stuff.” And yeah, but we look now and suddenly the trade deficit has shifted in favor of America out of China. And now we get this trade agreement with China that is just not getting talked about much, but it’s suddenly real favorable for the United States. And then we can kind of look at Iran and say, well, you know, he took on Iran, just head on and went right at Iran. And now they’re having riots internally because they don’t have enough money to feed their people because they’re spinning it all and try and do a nuclear program. And he has knocked that just kind of knocked them backwards on that. I mean, you just go through so many places where he stood up to countries and the media took them on and said, “Oh, he’s being really mean and really whatever. And you know, he’ll do his tweets and he’ll be really aggressive with those countries.” But nonetheless, as the noise goes away and you look back, you say, “my gosh, these countries made a whole lot of concessions and moved on other direction.”

Well, let me take Mexico as an example. Because we had all that stuff on the border, all those caravans coming across and all the stuff that was happening there and man, how uncivilized America was and what we were doing to separate kids from parents. And you know, Mexico was the poor victim and all of this. And he is putting pressure on Mexico and he shouldn’t be doing that. And yet this little story I’ve got in my hands right now says that what happened in Mexico is, Mexico just blocked 2,500 migrants from crossing their Southern border heading to the United States.

Rick Green: Now, that’s what they said they wouldn’t do before, right?

David Barton: I think that’s exactly what they said they wouldn’t do before. And they’ve now got their eyes not on this caravan, but others, and they’re blocking them at the Southern point of entry into Mexico. They’re saying, “Nope, we’re not allowing you to go through our country up to the United State,” you know. And Trump puts some economic pressures on Mexico and trade stuff there and agreements and other things and suddenly now we see Mexico lining up and you know, we’re getting all these policies done and the media is really solid about all the success he’s had in so many ways. And part of what happened before when we had the crosses the border was all these people claiming asylum and you know, it’s not necessarily asylum, maybe it’s bad economics, maybe they just want a different place and maybe they don’t like where they are anymore. And asylum, it was like if you claim asylum, we can’t turn you down.

And so Trump came up with this thing says, “Well, if you claim asylum, we’re not going to let you wait in the United States because most of you never show up for court dates again. We’ll send you to a safe third country where nothing can happen to you.” And that say third country was Guatemala. And so what happens is these get turned away at the border because they can’t get asylum and we’re not instantly granted asylum anymore. They’re, they’re going into Guatemala. And so as you look at what’s happening with Guatemala and the things there, it’s really interesting what’s happened on the traffic flow coming through there. The fact that we’re not instantly granting asylum status for people who are here, but you actually have to go through a legitimate process. And if you’re coming here in poverty and expect us to support you, we’re not doing that anymore. And there are just so many things that are changing in immigration model. And here’s a new one that goes with that, is Trump has shut down what is called birth tour-rism. In other words, I’m about to get tour-rism

Rick Green: Birth tour-rism. I’m going to go on a tour of having birth. No, no. You’re going to go on a tour to the US so you can give birth, I guess.

David Barton: So you can have birth. You know, I’m a week or so away from delivery, I’m going to make quick trip the United States never been there before, but I’m going to go there and have my baby there and then I’ll be able to be a citizen, we have anchor baby. And so Trump is now shutting that down, that if immigrants are trying to suddenly arrange a trip to the United States, right at the point of delivery, “nah, we’re not doing that.” And by the way, I have to point out anchor babies is nothing new. Back when the first three immigration laws were done by the founding fathers themselves, back in 1791 in 1795 and 1798 they stopped anchor babies back then. They said citizenship goes from the parents to the child, not from the child to the parents.

So if the parents come in, become citizens and their children become citizens, but not the other way around. And so way back then, they put the foot down on anchor babies and we’ve allowed it to get away from us. And so now people who have no interest and no willingness to contribute to America, but only to take, that’s kind of being shut down as well. So I got to give Trump so much credit on so many international fronts where that nobody’s really talking about it, but now the fact that Mexico is putting his foot down on these caravans coming through. The fact that Guatemala is actually helping the United States and taking this safe asylum kind of stuff until the litigation is done. And the fact that Trump is now saying no more, this birth tour-rism. I see this as really good stuff both for America and for other countries because it really puts America back in a position of strength in that if you’re coming here, there’s a reason to come here. You can be a contributor and that makes it really good for your country as well as for our country.

Rick Green: I feel like we’re doing the international version of Good News Friday, very good news. We’re going to take a quick break. We’ll be right back. Tim Barton’s got a piece of good news and I don’t know if it’s international or going to be from Minnesota. Who knows? We’ll be right back. You’re listening to Wall Builders Live.


Tim Barton: Hey, this is Tim Barton with Wall Builders, and as you’ve had the opportunity to listen to Wall Builders Live, you’ve probably heard the wealth of information about our nation, about our spiritual heritage, about the religious liberties, about all the things that makes America exceptional. And you might be thinking as incredible as this information is, I wish there was a way that I could get one of the Wall Builders’ guys to come to my area and share with my group, whether it be a church, whether it be a Christian school or public school, or some political event or activity. If you’re interested in having a Wall Builder speaker come to your area, you can get on our website at and there’s a tab for scheduling. And if you’ll click on that tab, you’ll notice there’s a list of information from speakers’ bios to events that are already going on. And there’s a section where you can request an event to bring this information about who we are, where we came from, our religious liberties and freedoms. Go to the Wall Builders’ website and bring a speaker to your area.


Rick Green: It’s Good News Friday here on Wall Builders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Next piece of good news coming from Tim Barton. Time…

Tim Barton: Guys, this one is coming from the NFL and one of the things that we have seen in the NFL over the last couple of years is kind of, I don’t know if resurgence is the right word, growth, exposure to Christians in the NFL. I don’t know what the NFL was like prior to the last couple of decades and that’s beyond my recollection. Dad, Rick, you all probably have a little more experience with previous decades, but certainly in the last couple of years we have seen the NFL have a rise of outspoken Christians. And maybe part of it is, social media has given a platform to more and more people to be outspoken about their faith. And there are many quarterbacks, for example, in the NFL who have been outspoken about their faith. Russell Wilson’s and Drew Breeze and Carson Wentz, etc, you can go down the list of people who have had professions of faith and talking about how faith has made a difference in their life and shaped and impacted part of what they’ve done.

Well, there was a tweet that came out earlier in the year that just so really cool from quarterback, Kirk Cousins. Now Kirk Cousins is part of the Vikings and obviously being in Texas, we’re not really Vikings fans. There was a couple of seasons ago, we felt like we got robbed at a Vikings game and you know, et cetera, which I’m sure every sports fan has that moment, where there’s a reason, there’s some team they don’t like. Nonetheless, as Texans, that really living around the Cowboys, which is now making it hard even for us, because one day the Cowboys are going to be awesome again, and we’re just going to keep cheering along the way, but we kind of have to have a backup team as well. So when the Cowboys get beaten, then we cheer for somebody else.

And we just happened to be cheering for the quarterback from Lubbock, Patrick Mahomes this year, so that was super fun. Anyway, we digress. Kirk Cousins, quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings on Twitter, put up a picture of a Bible, and here’s what he said, “It took me over two years, but just finish reading through the entire Bible for the first time. Definitely recommend it.” First of all, that’s really awesome that Kirk Cousins read through the Bible and it’s something we certainly recommend. Guys we’ve studied American history, we’ve seen over and over how the founding fathers talked about reading the Bible, how the Bible impacted them and shape their life, and many of them made it a practice to read the Bible every single year. We know in early education that the Bible was a very common textbook for students to learn to read and it was pretty common practice to read all the way through the Bible.

So early Americans very familiar with the Bible. It’s a practice that’s largely been lost and forgotten today, but to have someone of NFL, starting quarterback status, to come out and say, “Hey, just read the entire Bible, recommends you do the same thing.” His tweet at the time that picture was taken, had more than 90,000 likes, which is really awesome. And Kirk Cousins has spoken out about his faith on several different occasions. In fact, on his Twitter account, part of his bio, it says, “I’m quoting from Micah 6:8, ‘What does the Lord require of you to act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God'”. So the fact he’s putting a Bible verse on his Twitter bio is impressive. And then there’s these in many interviews where he’s referenced faith and God, but here’s one that is highlighted in this article and I actually remember this interview, he says, “My faith is important to me, is the foundation for my life.” He continued, “Ultimately, there’s where I gained my peace and strength, win or lose, God’s still on the throne and I take comfort in that.” Its guys just really cool to see another example of an NFL athlete, of someone who has been in the spotlight, who’s had fame, had notoriety. And I mean obviously, there’s people that would say, “He”€™s not good,” “he is good”. There’s a lot of athletic talk that surrounds him, but for the middle of all the drama that he lives in, for him to stand up and be outspoken about his faith, it’s just so cool that we are seeing more and more stars, more and more athletes who are willing to stand up and say that, “No, I believe in God” and the culture that seems so critical of Christians on so many areas and levels. It’s awesome to see a starting NFL quarterback stand up and promote the Bible and be open about his faith. Really good news.

Rick Green: All right. Hang tight folks, we’ve got more good news for you today. We’re going to take a quick break. We’ll be right back on Wall Builders Live.


Tim Barton: Hi, this is Tim Barton with Wall Builders, and I want to encourage all the pastors out there with unique opportunity that we’re presenting at Wall Builders. We’re doing a special tour just for pastors that you can come and learn more about the spiritual heritage of our nation. Not just seeing the sites but understanding the significance of what they are and what they represent. We get to go through the Capitol at night and we get to see the spiritual heritage of our founding fathers, of who we are as a nation, where we came from. We bring in Congressman that will tell you about current legislation, about our religious liberties and freedom and what’s going on in Washington DC. If you’re a pastor or if you want to recommend your pastor for this trip, you can go to our website, and there’s a link that’s for scheduling. If you click on that link, there’s a section for pastors’ briefing. There’s more information about the dates, when that’s going, how it’s going to happen. If you want to know more about our nation, our religious liberties, our freedom, our spiritual heritage, this is a trip you want to be a part of.


Rick Green: We’re back here on Good News Friday at Wall Builders Live, and by the way, if you’re enjoying this, which I enjoyed every week, everybody needs a little pick me up and in the know that there’s good things happening out there and that the system does work if we work it. If you want even more than what we’re bringing at you today, go to today and check out the archive section there, and you can go back to some of those previous Friday programs, but back to our stacks. David Barton’s got the next piece of good news.

David Barton: This piece of good news, now, I don’t know, Rick, you are sitting down for this? Are you okay? I don’t want you falling hitting your head or having some accident…

Rick Green: I’m bracing myself. I’m actually bracing myself. I’m ready.

David Barton: Okay. This piece of good news comes from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Rick Green: I’m sorry, I didn’t hear that right. Does that, no matter how braced I am, that doesn’t compute in my brain.

David Barton: Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Rick Green: I shouldn’t say, I’m not going to say on air, no, no, I can’t, I can’t. Go ahead. Good News Friday, Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

David Barton: I mean, this has got to be a first. This has got to be a first. I don’t think that I’ve ever used her for any Good News Fridays before, but this goes back to 1972. 1972 Congress passed what was called the Equal Rights Amendment, the ERA and that Equal Rights Amendment was basically pointed to genders. Now the problem is, and that did not become a part of the constitution. It was not part, but a lot of States put ERAs in their own state constitutions. As a result, the ERA has been used in ways it was never designed for gender back then because gender is now defined to mean 91 different genders that we know legally are there. It’s also been used to recognize sexual orientation. And it’s also been used to say in the case of Jack Phillips and others, is while we’re in Colorado, we have a state equal rights amendment, so you Christians do not have equal rights because gay rights are greater than the Christian rights. And so, virtually everywhere we see these attacks on conscience and States, it’s because those States have equal rights amendments.

And those equal rights amendments are interpreted in a way that does not allow religious protection of rights of conscience. So they really violate the first amendment, the federal constitution. Now having said that, what happened was when Congress passed the ERA back in 1972, it needed 38 States to ratify the amendment and Congress, as part of the amendment put a limit on it that says you have seven years to ratify if 38 States don’t do it within seven years, than the amendments dead. At the end of seven years, 35 States had done so. So Congress passed another law that says we’re going to extend the deadline another three years. At the end of that 10 years, which was 1982, they did not have the 38 States. Now since then, other States have ratified and we’ve passed the 38 mark, you know, recently Nevada has ratified and recently Virginia has ratified, and so it’s over 38 now. And so people are arguing that this should be made part of the constitution that the 10, Congress doesn’t have the authority to limit how many years can be put on an amendment and they can’t do that. And so, and by the way, in the meantime, five States have rescinded their approval of the ERA because they saw how it was used for things that were never intended. And that was between gender equality, males and females, not 91 identified genders.

Rick Green: So if five have rescinded, then those people that want to stay as part of the constitution had to also make the argument that a state can’t, rescind.

David Barton: And that’s the argument they’re making. And so when Ruth Bader Ginsburg recently addressed this issue, she said, because if this thing gets adjudicated, it will end up in front of the Supreme Court. The Attorney General, State’s Attorney Generals have file suits, and you’ve got to recognize our ratification even if it’s late, you can’t rescind the other. So this has been argued. If it ends up in front of the court, she’s going to be a voice on it. And she said that she believes that that 1982 deadline given by Congress stands. And that she will recognize that as a limitation that Congress had the right to impose on that amendment. Which means that this gets to the court and she’s the deciding vote, she’s going to actually come down on the side of Congress had the power to do a Congress did, which is amazing. This is not where the liberal left progressive agenda wants to go. And so someone they would count on very explicitly to do this, she said, “Nope, not going to be part of that.” And I consider that to be really good news because that’s recognized an original intent and going with the intent that was placed on that amendment when it was ratified by Congress and when Congress said, “Here”€™s the conditions we’re putting on it.” That’s good stuff.

Rick Green: Good news from Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. I think we should just have a moment of silence here to appreciate this fairly unusual moment. Okay, we’re not really going to do that, but I am quite shocked. We’re going to take a quick break to give everybody a chance to digest this good news from Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the US Supreme court. When we come back, Tim Barton, I’ll have our next piece of good news. Stay with us, folks. You’re listening to Wall Builders Live.


David Barton: This is David Barton with another moment from America’s history. As the upcoming elections approach, what qualification should we look for in our leaders? One prominent founding father, Governor Morris had a strong opinion on this question. Morris, a sign of the constitution and its Penman openly declared there must be religion when that ligament is torn, society is disjointed and its members perish. Vicious and unreligious rulers placed in a situation where they can exercise authority for their own profits will betray their trust. They take bribes, they sell laws, they sell honor and office, they sell their conscience, and they sell their country. The most important of all lessons is the announcement of ruin to every state that rejects the precepts of religion. Therefore, in the upcoming elections withhold your vote from any who would be hostile to basic religious principles. For more information on God’s hand in American history, contact Wall Builders at 1-808-REBUILD.


Rick Green: We’re back on Wall Builders Live, Good News Friday today, and Tim Barton’s got the next piece of good news. Tim, where are we headed?

Tim Barton: All right guys. This one is coming out of the military and it’s coming from Fort Leonard Wood, and I actually, it’s a bit broader than Fort Leonard Wood, but that’s the example we have right now, and the article says, ‘Revival Hits Army Base and thousands of soldiers receive Jesus’. That title is actually more accurate than we realize on a lot of levels, which we’ll get into. One of the things the article highlights is that at Fort Leonard Wood, they have experienced over the last however many months, that over 1400 soldiers have accepted Jesus. Now, this article came out the very end of January, so we’re looking back several months at this point. But what they highlight in this article is that this revival happening at Fort Leonard Wood is not just unique to Fort Leonard Wood, and it’s been going on at Fort Leonard Wood since back in 2018, where the chaplain there, his name is Jose, he has been seeing more and more soldiers who are engaged to our filling, God doing something in their life.

And so he says, “We’ve seen 1,459 soldiers come to Christ.” Now this is the time of the interview, so presumably more since then, God is doing great things at Fort Leonard Wood, among the hundreds of soldiers who have come to know Christ personally.” Well go even further, there was a retired Major General Doug Carver who also North American missions board Executive Director of Chaplaincy, so he’s over the chaplain seat for this big mission board. He says this revival at Fort Leonard Wood is not that unusual for what he is saying. He said, it’s happening widely in the armed forces. Now, guys, before I even go from this article, this is a really cool thing that we have talked for years about some of the hostility toward religion in the military, right? Where with Mikey Weinstein and the Freedom from Religion Foundation and all these groups who have attacked faith in the military. And we’ve actually had shown where we had some of our friends, whether it’s our friends from First Liberty or from Alliance Defending Freedom or Liberty Council or Pacific Justice. I mean, go down the list, we’ve had all these different law groups who have had some of these cases defending faith in the military specifically, and certainly they defend far beyond that.

But First Liberty, our friends in Dallas, Kelly Shackleford has an entire division just targeting the military, trying to help defend religious liberty in the military. We have seen now many, many victories inside the military where religious liberty is now being allowed on greater levels, certainly than it has been in previous years. But this is something that retired a Major General Doug Carver, so the guy who’s over the mission board of the chaplaincy program, so he’s helping get chaplains to these, these different forts. He says, “Our troops who are increasingly hungry for truth and relevancy in their lives are finding a faith that works through a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The current spiritual awakening at Fort Leonard Wood is indicative of a great move of God taking place within the armed services today.” And guys, I know that many of our listeners, just like we have been praying for God to move in our nation, for God to help our nation, revival in our nation. And we certainly are seeing some cultural shifts in our nation where there are positive things happening. But to even be able to point to the military, right? To see our warriors, the guys in the front line, who God is doing something special in the military. It’s just really good news to see a revival happening inside the armed forces.

Rick Green: Well, it’s fantastic news for us. You know, we’ve had so many programs where we’ve talked about how the, in the armed forces, the federal government, mostly due to Obama’s policies and decrees handed down, was infringing upon members of our military, being able to live out their faith and especially with chaplains but many other stories as well. And president Trump has been adamant about changing that and even said so on the campaign trail in 2016. So it is fantastic to see a good news coming out of our armed forces. And so much good news from across the nation and around the world shared here on Wall Builders Live. Thanks to David and Tim for gathering those good news stories for sharing them with us each week.

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