What To Do If The Government Comes To Your Door – With John Whitehead: Should we always cooperate with the government? What should state governments be doing to keep the local government in check? Does the current administration support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and how would you know? How do you respond if the government comes to your door to coerce you to make what should be a private medical decision? What are Biden’s “surge response teams”?  Tune in to hear the important answers to these questions and much more as John Whitehead from The Rutherford Institute shares eye-opening information!

Air Date: 08/03/2021

Guest: John Whitehead

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Faith and the Culture


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Boy, oh, boy, guys, it just seems like truth is missing in so many ways in the culture and government is just intruding more and more. They’re going to come door-to-door on the vaccines now. What do you guys think of this?


Let me kind of make a statement about government for a minute. And I don’t want to kind of sit up and maybe couch what I’m going to say with some statements upfront. Look, I’m not opposed to government. 

I believe it’s an institution ordained by God. I think it’s ordained for the right purpose. It’s not an enemy to me. I think it’s there. I honor government officials. 

So matter of fact, I disagree totally with Biden, but I respect the office of president of the United States. And there’s just a lot of criticism I’m not going to do of that office or demean that office. I would rather see someone else in there. But I respect government. I honor government.

But I am at a point right now where I’m not going to cooperate with government in many areas. If they asked to see what’s in my car, I’m going to tell them no. If they stop me and want to know what I’ve got in the truck, I’m going to tell them get a warrant. 

“Three Felonies a Day”

And it could be even cops that I know, and I know a lot of cops, I’m not going to let them see anything in my car. If they come to my door and want to see some in my house, I’m not going to let them in. Even if I know them, I’m just not going to do it. And I’m not going to let them see anything I’ve got, my garage, anything, I’m not going to let them look in.

It goes back to something we talked about months ago, and that’s a book called “Three Felonies A Day”. There are now at least 4,500 federal felonies out there, most of us don’t know what they are. But if they ever decide they want to come after us, each of us would average breaking three federal felonies a day; we could all be jailed for something. 

So if they want to come after me, I don’t intend to make it easier for them by giving them access. You know, another stat we’ve shared that I saw on USA Today, a factoid they had, was that if you read 700 pages a week of the legal code, it would take you 25,000 years to read the entire legal code. I know there’s stuff in there that they can nail me with that I don’t even know about, so I’m not about to open the door and give them more stuff to nail me with.


Well, there’s one of the things too that if you look back in the founding era, the Founding Fathers were very clear on the notion of justice, and just law and moral law. In fact, if you go to the Declaration, where in the Declaration it starts off, certainly we know the notion we know the truth to be self-evident, all men are created equal, they’re endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; and among these are life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That’s a phrase that a lot of people have memorize from the Declaration, is certainly worth knowing.

If you back up before that though, one of the things they acknowledge is that there is the laws of nature and the laws of nature’s God. They recognize that God has revealed truth, both in creation and in his Word, that’s the laws of nature. What’s in creation, the laws of nature’s God; what’s in God’s word, God has revealed truth. And because of that truth, that’s what they said, we hold these truths to be self-evident.

The Truth from God

The truth that God has revealed, we know that God made us to be equal. There’s not classes. There’s not a hierarchy of this. W

e understand that God gave us all rights. And government’s primary role is to protect those rights. And they acknowledge also the consent of the governed. 

We point this out in one of our presentations called “Exceptional”, as we walk through these basic principles outlined in the Declaration. What’s significant about this, the Founding Fathers recognized that there was moral rights and wrongs outlined by God. God revealed moral truth to us.

And under God, we recognize that first of all, there is a Creator and that Creator gave us rights and government exists to protect those rights. And then the fifth thing is the consent of the governed. Here’s where it gets more interesting and relevant for our conversation today.

The Founding Fathers acknowledged in the Declaration that if any government ever failed to do those basic things, it was the right of the people and even arguably the duty of the people to throw off that government and to form a new government and base it upon such things, meaning those basic principles already outlined.

And dad, to your point, when you said you totally support government, but you’re not going to really acquiesce to where government is today, the idea is absolutely what the Founding Fathers intended. They recognize that government as an institution is designed by God and is an institution designed for our good, to secure our God given rights among other things. But when government ceases to recognize your God given rights.

When government begins to dictate what they believe is right or wrong, and not based on an objective moral standard, not saying because we read the Word of God and it says this. Therefore, we’re having this moral standard that we’re going to enforce. No. They’re doing it based on whatever bureaucrats and whatever agencies are determining the new course of action, the new political, or scientific position of the day might be.

Going Door – to – Door

And now they’re saying, they’re going to go door to door, and they’re going to enforce this scientific religious ideology that’s not based on objective standards, or even objective scientific standards or moral standards. What they’re saying is that we are going to come in and as tyrants tell you what to do, how to live your life, etc. 

And this is exactly where the Founding Fathers stepped up and said: “You know, I don’t think we’re going to let the government do tha. I don’t think we’re going to acquiesce to the will, to the desire of the government in this area.”

And dad, I think, to your point, that’s where we’re finding ourselves now, what we’re seeing happen in the nation around us. This is no longer a time as much as, as we support police, and we want to back the “Blue” and we support our first responders, and we support our military. We’re just at the place, we’re way too many officers, way too many government officials are not remembering their primary role is to protect and defend the citizens, to protect our God given rights, to follow the guidance of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

You have people literally throwing the Bill of Rights out the window, and then according to their own whims, they’re doing things and incriminating people. They’re politically targeting their enemies. This is very much what we’ve seen historically in communist regimes. That’s exactly what we are seeing unfold before us in America.

Now, the good news is, dad, as you pointed out, we don’t have to acquiesce to all this. We can say, yeah, no, I’m not going to do that because there still is a Constitution, even though it’s not followed very well today by political officials. There still is a Bill of Rights, even though we might have to go to court over our actual rights as outlined in the Bill of Rights. 

The reality is that these are still winnable fights, but they are now fights that are at the forefront of our lives, that we no longer get to sit back and just watch what’s happening.

It reminds me a little bit of the moment in the “Patriots,” where Mel Gibson’s character, he’s tried to stay out of this, he didn’t want to, and all of a sudden, they’ve showed up at his house, and he’s realized I can’t stay out of this anymore. This is where ultimately we are finding ourselves as a nation, that there’s not really a middle ground to stand on anymore. You really can’t straddle the fence. 

Biden Does Not Support the Bill of Rights

You’re kind of on one side or the other. And either you support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, or you don’t. And right now, we have a presidential administration, and so much bureaucracy that is not supporting the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights,


Tim, you said something that’s so important. And that is, you know, look, we’ve got the tools to defend our freedom and assert our rights, as John Jay said. And of course, I mean, John Jay is our first Chief Justice, the United States Supreme Court, he did part of the Federalist Papers, which is essentially our instruction manual. 

I mean, those three guys were really saying, here’s how the Constitution is going to work, and the responsibility is going to be with we the people and with those state legislators, so you better do your job if you want to protect freedom.

We have to do that, right. We have to do the lawsuits to protect the Bill of Rights or protect our freedoms under the Bill of Rights. We have to sometimes have civil disobedience and push back. 

So, I mean, you’re exactly right. We could go down the road of some of those communist countries or we could stop it. And fortunately, our Founders gave us the tools to do that. But it’s going to be an in the trenches fight, I think, for the next few years to make that happen.

One of the guys has been in those trenches for a long time, our friend John Whitehead over at the Rutherford Institute; he fights a lot of these legal battles. In fact he literally working on how to respond when they come to your door with these, you know, I don’t know how to say it. I mean, it’s basically vaccine coercion is really what it feels like to me. 

But anyway, he’s going to share with us today what he recommends for folks to do if they don’t want to get the vaccine and they don’t want to be harassed at their door. John Whitehead with us, when we return on WallBuilders Live.


This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American history. American patriot Paul Revere wrote to alert Americans of the impending arrival of the British. But he also sought patriot leaders, Samuel Adams and John Hancock to warn them that the British were seeking their execution. Adams and Hancock were staying with the Reverend Jonas Clark in Lexington.

When they asked Pastor Clark if his church was ready for the approaching British, he replied, “I’ve trained them for this very hour, they will fight and if need be die under the shadow of the house of God.” Later that morning, 70 men from his church, a several 100 British in the first battle of the war for independence. 

As Pastor Clark affirmed, “The militias that morning were the same who filled the pews of the church meeting house on the Sunday morning before.” The American church was regularly at the forefront of the fight for liberty.

For more information on this pastor and other colonial patriots, go to wallbuilders.com.


Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Always good to have John Whitehead with us from Rutherford Institute. John, great to have you man. Thanks for some time today.


Hey, thanks for having me on, sir.


First of all, website, let’s give folks your website. I really want encourage them to go donate, help you continue to do what you do. We certainly use you as a resource all the time and just really appreciate you. So best place for people to go?


Go to the rutherford.org, that’s rutherford.org, sign up to get our weekly newsletters and, you know, my book “Battlefield America” has gone into everything that we’re seeing right now. It’s the war against the American people, and it’s going to continue, folks.


Yeah, and you’re right. I mean, you’ve warned about these things that are happening for years. I did not think I would see this door-to-door basically, coercion to take an experimental, not even a vaccine and DNA modifying clot shot is Daniel Horwitz calls it and through coercion get more and more Americans to take this. Have you ever seen anything like this with the door-to-door effort?

“Surge Response Teams”


No. The only thing close to it is just the stocking up, where police do that occasionally in some areas in the middle of the night. But really, the state of Washington now is outlawed that. And that’s one thing I’ve been telling people: if you don’t like what’s being done, the Tenth Amendment, which most people don’t even realize allows us to a state and local governments to validate acts and laws of the federal government. And we should be doing that all over this country.

But this door-to-door thing, I’m calling them “Strike” teams, they’re called “Surge Response Teams.” And they’re going to be targeting certain communities to do door-to-door outreach. And I’ve had a few people call me already in one radio now through that they’re already doing it in different areas of the country. 

So that’s why I did this commentary, “The Right to be Let Alone and What You Need To Do.” You got to really be careful. When the government comes knocking on your door, folks, you got to really be careful, you got to know your Bill of Rights.


Yeah, in fact, I borrowed from what you wrote, and I’ve been telling people the same thing. And you really emphasize, look, first of all, you have no trespassing sign. But as soon as you tell them you want them to leave, if they don’t leave, at that point, they’re trespassing.


They’re trespassing. And I think the first thing I was telling people, yeah, put no trespassing sign. If they walk up to your door, knock on your door, be careful how you open your door. If you open the door widely, and they look in the house and maybe they’re going to be peeking over your shoulder if they can do it, because they’ll be taking everything down there. The pads they’ll be carrying, their electronic pads; so they’ll be getting the information.


So if they see a gun inside the house, or hanging on the wall or whatever, they can report you. And that will raise your threat assessment. Most people don’t realize that Department of Homeland Security does threat assessments on American homes, they go from green to red. 

If you have a weapon, you’re red. And people have call me on some of the cases we’ve had where police have showed up really agitated at their door just asking for somebody. And I had people, why are they so agitated? 

Because they got all this information. And these teams here are going to be collecting information. That is the main purpose of these in my opinion.


Now, John, well, everybody knows what I do. So I have slightly more than one gun. So does that make me bright red? Is like a shade of red because I would be at an extreme level, whatever the color?




I don’t mean to make light of it. This is evil what they’re doing, absolutely.


Oh, I agree, is none of the government’s business. You know, again, if America knew the Fourth Amendment, they would be screaming. Fourth Amendment says the government should not be doing any kind of surveillance on you unless they have probable cause of wrongdoing or illegal activity.

And again, most of the stuff we see being collected on us today, all this stuff, I’ll be honest with you, everything on your cell phone now, you know, the FBI, the NSA is taking it down; all your phone calls are being recorded. Facebook is watching everything you’re doing. Google, by the way, is mapping wherever you’re going. These drones that are flying over the country now can spots your face from two miles up, facial recognition software, and it connects to different cameras in cities.

The Fourth Amendment

So we live in a total surveillance state right now. And all these visits, in my opinion, are intimidation tactics, number one. But they’re going to be collecting some information.

 And some people who comment on communities where they’re already happening, and these are very young people coming to the door so far in some areas. So they’re not going to be very well trained on the Constitution. 

The average American, the average government official I talk to can’t even tell you what’s in the Bill of Rights. I talked to lawyers who can’t, it’s not taught well in the schools anymore. They don’t read the Declaration of Independence. Y

ou know why? Because if you read the preamble to the Declaration of Independence, it says, hey, we can throw these guys out.


Yeah. Yeah. Nobody wants to talk about that.


No, they don’t want to talk about that.


I want to take you back on the Fourth Amendment, because I struggled with this, when all this stuff people first started asking me about this and I’m going okay, at what point do they violate the Fourth Amendment? Because I mean, obviously, I mean, I want my legislative race knocking on 5,000 doors. I want people to be able to go door-to-door for good things, right. So what’s the point at which they crossed a line? Is it just the intent that they’re there with immediately does that or once they refuse to leave? Help me where that point happens.


Once they step on your porch and ask you a question, you say, sir, I’m sorry, I’m not going to be answering any questions. You are trespassing. Please leave my property. 

They’re violating also local trespass laws. They’re violating the Fourth Amendment at that point. And what I’m telling people to do is have your cell phone, be recording the conversation.

Know Your Rights

And if you again, how I handled the American Community survey one year when they came to my door, is I close the door behind me, stepped out on my front porch. That can be dangerous too, though, because we’ve had clients who all of a sudden out of their pockets, some of these might be FBI agents, so come out of the pocket with handcuffs and handcuff you.

So the best way to do it is either talk through the door and say, I’m not answering the door today, would you please go away? And if they don’t, just say sorry, sir. 

I’m now calling 911 and reporting you to the local police, you’re trespassing and violating the law. And one guy who told me that they did this to his city, he said, the two people ran, jumped in their van, and drove off.


Now, I would love to see that actually.


I would love that too. But you know, again, people that are up on the rights, know their rights, take a stand on it, and don’t get violent or anything. Don’t wave your arms. 

Don’t look violent. Because again, they’ll report you, they can report you to local police. And people don’t realize this. In many areas, working with the FBI, local police are watching almost all social media. 

We’re in a pre-crime mode in this country. They’re trying to predict crime. And just be all you have to do is, say the wrong thing, do the wrong thing.

So I’m telling people just stay calm, and tell them to leave, go away, or I’m calling the police if they keep asking questions. The other thing is, you don’t have to give over any information that you have about your health. It’s none of their business.

We Just Need the Police to Follow the Constitution


Zero. Zero. You don’t have to answer any of those questions. Yeah, absolutely.


No. You have the right to say no.


Man, John, I am in awe every time then one more step. And I don’t even know the right, you know, are we in Fahrenheit 451, one of the Orwellian books? Are we in Brave New World? I mean, it’s all seems to be happening at this point.


Oh, yeah. It’s going global, by the way. So we’re moving into kind of what I would call “A global police state”. We’ve been there for a while, in my opinion. 

And the only hope we have in this country, again, the state of Washington just outlawed knock and talk for police go in the middle of the night, knock on people’s doors at 2:30. They’ve shot people through the doors who come to their door with a pistol on their hands, thinking burglars were out the door. So you have to be really careful. And…


Now, that is really interesting. So probably the “Defund the Police” movement led to that getting passed. But yet now that’s in our favor on all of these other infringements that are happening.


Yeah, we don’t need to fund the police. We need to make the police follow the Constitution. And there’re Sheriffs now around the country I’m pretty impressed with who’re saying I’m not following that mandate that violates the Constitution. 


And that’s what we need. But we made more local government officials police or whatever. And I know some really good ones that do that. They know the Constitution. 

Get the Basic Knowledge

They teach their officers the Fourth Amendment and their rights. And you don’t have a lot of this crazy stuff we’re seeing. But I guarantee you, if you have young 20 year olds coming to your door, a “surge response” teams collecting information, they’re not going to be very well trained.


Right. Right. Yeah. So just that basic knowledge of how to open the door, don’t swing a wide open, just stick your head out and say thank you very much. Not answering the door today or, not answering any questions. If they push on the questions, and you can be polite about it, but send them on their way and do not answer any of their questions.


Yeah, I was, like I said the American Community Survey team came to my house, I stepped out in front and pointed at their car and said, sir, you’re trespassing. Please leave my property. Is that your automobile? 

And they looked at me and shook your head. I said either get it right now I’m calling the police. I am on phone, I’m dialing 911. They turned to look at me like what, and walked downstairs, got in their car and drove off.


I got to be honest, John, 10 years ago, I would have thought you were being rude and over the top. Today, I’m going that’s the only way. I mean, at this point, it’s…


Hey, we’re not rude. We are the government. The Constitution starts with the word, “We the people do ordain this government.” Listen, they’re supposed to be serving us.


That’s right.


They should be protecting and serving us. And once we say get off our property, I’m not talking to you about my health, about this or that, it’s none of your business. And by the way, do you have a warrant, sir? 


They’re going to look at you, they won’t have a warrant. Sir, do you know what probable cause is? See, so we have a Bill of Rights pamphlet. 

You can get on our website, it explains each amendment briefly. I would suggest people go on our website and sign up to get that and study it so you can read it back to them.


Excellent. Excellent. Rutherford.org.


Rutherford.org. And you’re doing this while you’re on the phone. You’re recording this conversation. You’re giving them the constitutional grounds to leave and you’re demanding that they leave.


Yeah, yeah, that’s good. Rutherford.org for the information, get that pamphlet, start studying those things. John Whitehead, always good to have you, man. 

Man, thanks for just being a truth sayer that doesn’t care if he gets canceled. That’s kind of attitude we got to have, man. We just got to speak truth and let the chips fall where they may.


Straight strike, speak truth to power.


I love it. I love it. Thanks for coming on today, man.


Thank you, sir.


Stay with us, folks, we’ll be right back with David and Tim Barton.


Hey, guys, we want to let you know about a new resource we have at WallBuilders called The American Story. For so many years, people have asked us to do a history book to help tell more of the story that’s just not known or not told today.

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Exercising Our Rights


We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us. Thanks to John Whitehead for joining us as well. 

Rutherford.org is the website, you can go there to get more information. Get on the email list, and donate to help him continue to do what he’s doing. Back with David and Tim now.

And guys, I mean, some of this is just basic freedom stuff, just like you started the program with, David, I mean, some, you know, you’re not going to open your trunk without a warrant, you’re not going to give them reason to possibly, I mean, look, we’re pro-police back to blue guys, right?

But you don’t want to give them possibly a chance to make something up or to exaggerate things. So exercising our rights and using the Constitution to defend our rights is vitally important.


And it also might be that the cop is really good that he’s not going to do it. But it may be a city prosecutor somewhere who takes what that cop has on his body, camera or something else and comes after you. It may not be the intent of that cop to do something bad. And so you just don’t want to give them any opportunity for any official at any level, any bureaucrat to come after you.


And more specifically, we are talking about when they’re coming knocking at the door, right? Because this is obviously different if you were involved in a car wreck, and an officer shows up, and what happened. I’m not talking to you. No, that’s different context, right. It’s not really what we’re talking about.

Understanding The Bill of Rights

But in the sense of recognizing your privacy, the Bill of Rights, and one of things John Whitehead pointed out so well, is that the reality is we need to be citizens who know our constitutional rights, who know the Bill of Rights. And when you know the Bill of Rights, when you know the Constitution, even as was pointed out in the conversation: when people are coming to the door, and they’re knocking on the door, and you start quoting to them from the Bill of Rights – 

or you start asking them basic questions regarding the Bill of Rights, you know, as he pointed out, a lot of these people, and he said a lot of them are young people, not very well trained. I would point out, I don’t care if you’re 40 or 50, most people don’t know the Bill of Rights.

If you are familiar with the Constitution, you are able to defend and protect your rights so much better which is actually one of the quotes we had from John Jay, even going into this interview was we need to be able to know and assert and defend those constitutional rights, what’s outlined in the Bill of Rights.

And so again, this is not anything disparaging any police officers, because I know there’s a lot of police officers and sheriff’s and military listening. And guys, we support you all so much. We’re so grateful for you. 

We’re praying for you. It’s to recognize though, as citizens, we need to recognize what is in the Bill of Rights and know what our rights are so that we can make sure those rights don’t get violated.


And just put in context. I think I gave a wrong tone here in some ways by talking about cops. We’re actually talking about government bureaucrats that are not law enforcement officials that have no legal standing that are coming to your door and wanting to survey you on vaccines and tell you what you should do. 

That’s real different from cops. But even with cops who have that legal standing, I’m just not going to give them that opportunity, much less a lower official, like a pollster or an information taker who’s coming to my door on COVID. And this is where the Fourth Amendment really is important.

Writs of Assistance

John Adams spent so much time on this. He went back to 1761, where he watched James Otis, who was a Founding Father who trained other Founding Fathers. He argued before the British courts, the writs of assistance case. 

And the writs of assistance, basically, the British said, hey, we’re going to go on your home and look until we find something illegal. And then we’re going to fill in a search warrant and say that’s what we were looking for all the time. 

And the American said, no, never will that happen in America: you will not set foot in our home, unless you have a warrant, unless it is issued by a judge, unless there is probable cause behind it, and unless it specifically says the papers, places, persons, or effects that you want to see, you’re not even getting in my house.

And so when these guys knock on your door and say, hey, we’re here for vaccines. First question as John said is do you have a warrant? Where’s your warrant? If you don’t get the heck off property, you’re trespassing.


Well and right, this is also where he acknowledged, hey, I’m not going to answer any questions today, please leave my property; if you don’t, that’s trespassing, right. And so, obviously, we’re not encouraging anybody to be hostile in tone or nature. 

One of the things we would obviously as Christians want to remember is that we want to be known by love. But love doesn’t have to bend over backwards and be abused. That’s not actually what love is.

And we also want to make sure that we remember some of the other Christian virtues are courage. Some of the other Christian virtues are boldness. And as much as we want to respond in love, we also want to be courageous and bold, and defending the Constitution and defending the Bill of Rights and asserting our own rights to make sure we’re not letting a government bureaucracy or government bureaucratic, government agent come and take away that basic constitutional or Bill of Rights principles that as American citizens, we should be able to fully enjoy.

What To Do If The Government Comes To Your Door – With John Whitehead


And don’t forget, David, you’re 100% right in what you said about it could be a local DA that is a left wing DA, we’ve got a ton of those around the country now that have been getting indictments and going after people that were simply exercising their Second Amendment right, or whatever it might be. So there’s definitely some corruption in the process. And it may not be that police officer at that moment, but it may be used by the DA.

So just always assert your rights, and as Tim said, you can do it politely. But you’ve got to assert those rights, or else you’re going to give them up. We’re out of time for today, folks. Go to wallbuilderslive.com for more, get archives of the program there. 

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