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Why Remember The Alamo – With LTC Allen West: Why is it important to understand our history? What does the Bible reveal about generations who do not know where they came from? How is it that an increasing number of Americans do not understand what produces a free society or the essence of American ideals? Why are our Judeo-Christian Biblical principles and our Constitutional principles vital for Americans to understand? Tune in to hear LTC Allen West discuss the call for liberty has always been a part of the history of the USA!

Air Date: 03/08/2022

Guest: LTC Allen West

On-air Personalities: David Barton, Rick Green, and Tim Barton


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Faith and the Culture


Welcome to the intersection of faith and the culture. This is WallBuilders Live. We are taking on the hot topics of the day, from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. Thrilled that you are with us today, you can learn more about us at wallbuilderslive.com. That’s our radio website. You can get a list of the stations there. You can learn more about us as, as the hosts.

I’m Rick Green. I’m a former Texas legislator, and America’s Constitution coach; honored to be serving with David Barton, America’s premier historian and our founder at WallBuilders, and Tim Barton, national speaker and pastor and president of WallBuilders. 

All of that information on our website, wallbuilderslive.com, again, list of stations and most importantly, that donate button. Yes, that’s your opportunity to come alongside us, to lock shields with us, to expand our organization and amplify our voice, frankly, is what’s so important right now, because truth is so needed in the culture.

And so WallBuilders Live, that’s what we’re all about when we give that biblical, historical and constitutional perspective, we’re actually given the answers to the tough problems that we face, the challenges that are in our culture and in our society today. I know there’s a lot of negative, I know there’s a lot of problems in the culture. But all of the answers are found in God’s Word. And then in history, we find how to apply that, we find what works, what doesn’t work, how to do that effectively. And then of course, that constitutional perspective, we learn how to do that in our system of government here in America.

And without those constitutional, principles, without those foundational principles of liberty that made America so successful made America so wealthy and not just prosperous, but benevolent. You know, we’re the nation that’s there first and foremost when there’s tragedies around the world. We’re the nation that has exported liberty around the planet. 

And we forget that. And that’s really kind of our topic today. We’re going to be taking a look at why it’s important to remember the story, why it’s important to look back to history and say, what was God doing here? And how did he move in our nation here?

We Must Learn from the Past 

And how do we learn from those things and make sure we don’t repeat the mistakes of the past and make sure we hold on to the things that produced good results, and we keep infusing those good things into the culture? It’s so important to remember the former days.

So later in the program, we’re going to have Lieutenant Colonel Allen West with us talking about exactly that. Actually, I did the interview with Colonel West just a couple of days ago as he was headed down to the Alamo, headed down to a special remembrance there on the anniversary of the day that the Alamo fell. 

And so we’re going to really enjoy that interview with Lieutenant Colonel West. He’s actually coming on board with Patriot Academy. So he’s going to be a part of our Constitution coach program, teaching biblical citizenship all around the country, and also just our constitutional defense programs, our military veterans Leadership Program, our youth leadership programs, all of those, we are thrilled to have Lieutenant Colonel Allen West joining Patriot Academy and becoming a part of that.

We started Patriot Academy 22 years ago. It’s hard to believe that it’s been that long. I was in the state legislature serving as a state rep, and went to David and Cheryl Barton and said, hey, this is the idea, this is what we want to do, and we’re just frustrated with the lack of conviction-oriented legislators, and we want to start instilling and infusing those principles into a whole new generation. And of course, Dave and Cheryl loved the idea and joined the vision. And so we teamed up with the Barton’s to start Patriot Academy. It’s hard for me to believe that’s been two decades ago.

But as a result, over those two decades, wow, we have trained so many patriots. We started doing youth leadership at the Texas State Capitol. That was the beginning. And then after 10 years of doing the program there, we started expanding out into in regional Patriot academies in Idaho and Arizona, and in Delaware and Florida. We’ve been doing that for nearly 10 years now. This will be our 10th year in most of those states.

Constitution Courses

And then we started the Constitution coach program. David and Tim Barton and myself traveling around the country, teaching on constitutional principles, we decided we wanted to have an actual constitution course. And so Constitution Alive was created, oh, goodness, that’s been nine years ago. And people started using those videos and teaching that in their homes and at their churches, and that sort of just spilled into the Constitution coach program. 

And then we started actually training people to be Constitution coaches. And now we have 12,000 Constitution coaches all across the nation. And those classes are happening in living rooms, in churches and libraries all over the place. People are getting excited about learning the Constitution, learning the biblical foundations of our Constitution.

And then last year, we released Biblical Citizenship in Modern America. And that has become really the sweet spot. So many people are enjoying that class. Thousands of those classes taking place across the nation. Some of those are 2 or 3 people in a living room or 10 or 12 people in the living room.

Some are 400, 500, 600 people at a time at churches across the nation. I was actually just in Arizona at a retirement community where they have been hosting that class in Rio Verde, Arizona. And it was just amazing to see, I think, 200 or 300 people in that class coming in every week and studying the Constitution and studying the Bible and what it says about how our country should be formed. Just super exciting to see all of those things happening.

One of the things about Patriot Academy, we also have our constitutional defense course. And of course, Tim Barton and David Barton have been on that many times. And we’ve talked about that here on the program. But 5,000 people have gone through that course with us over the last few years, really excited about that one as well. 

That’s the one where you learn during the day how to safely effectively carry your firearm, Handgun Defense is what we call it. And then in the evenings, we do intellectual ammunition. I think it’s the nicest way to say that. It’s learning the truth about the Constitution and the Second Amendment or learning how to defend it intellectually.

A New Member to Our Team

It’s important to learn physically how to defend your family, no doubt about that. And that’s why most people come to that class. But then also getting that constitutional education, absolutely critical. And then the big new program for Patriot Academy is our Patriot Academy campus. I like what Lieutenant Colonel Allen West calls it, it’s a Constitutional Prep Academy. And that’s exactly right. That is a great description. We may just end up calling it that. It’s a place for young people to come for a one year gap year program.

So they get to spend a whole year with us getting constitutional grounding, biblical worldview, leadership skills, all of those things, but then also for people of all ages to be able to come in a weekend at a time and get that training and take it back to their community. It’s literally raising up warriors of liberty to go back to communities across the nation. All of these things are growing and expanding all because two decades ago WallBuilders and Patriot Academy teamed up to create these programs.

So I am super excited and thankful that you’re listening that you’re learning about these things. But I’m also thankful that coming back from the break, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West will be with us because he is joining the Patriot Academy team. What an exciting exciting time, we’re kind of drawing that line in the sand, just like he’s going to go down to the Alamo tonight. And, and celebrate we’re doing that in America and saying it’s time for every single one of us to play a part in preserving liberty and passing on the torch of freedom. Stay with us folks, Lieutenant Colonel Allen with us when we return on WallBuilders Live.


This is Tim Barton from WallBuilders with another moment from American History. In 1963, the United States Supreme Court decided that voluntary Bible reading could no longer be part of the school day. Founding Father, Benjamin Rush, known as the “Father of Public Schools” under the Constitution, pointedly warn that the Bible should be read in schools and preference to all other books.

He specifically warned that if America ever cease promoting biblical principles in schools, then we would waste so much time and money and punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them. He was right. We now have 7 million Americans in prison on probation or on parole, and the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Sadly, this was unnecessary, but is the result of no longer teaching the morals of the Bible in schools. For more information about the Founding Fathers’ views on the positive impact of the Bible in schools, go to Wallbuilders.com.


Welcome back to WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us today. Super excited to have Lieutenant Colonel Allen West with us colonels. Good to have you on, brother.


It’s good to be with you. And today is Remember the Alamo day, Rick.


Where you are headed there actually, so you’re on your way to the Alamo, tell us a little bit about what’s going to happen there this evening?


Well, today, the 6th of March 2022 is the 186 remembrance of the fall of Alamo which occurred on a Sunday in 1836. And so you think about those brave 183 who gave their lives so we can live here in this great Lone Star state today. I’m heading down to speak for the Alamo Defenders Descendants Association. So these are individuals that can trace their history, their lineage back to someone that was a defender there 186 years ago.

Remember the Alamo

So tonight at five o’clock will be a prayer vigil and a ceremony inside the Alamo chapels there. So I’m really stoked about this because having been born and raised in Georgia and graduated from the University of Tennessee, it’s an incredible relationship between those two states and state of Texas in that on this day, 43 men, 5 from Georgia, 38 from Tennessee gave their lives at Alamo to include a former member of the United States House of Representatives like myself by the name of Davy Crockett.


And makes it very personal for you. I know how much you love liberty better than me or most people understand the sacrifice it takes to preserve liberty, having been in combat, having been through all the things you’ve been through in your life, so this is going to be a pretty special evening for you. I mean, you’ve got a lot of connections to the Alamo, both spiritually, mentally, all of those things. What do you plan to say to these descendants?


Well, I think that we have to carry on that lineage of people that stood there and fought to the very end. And we remember yesterday on the 5th of March, that was when history tells us that Lieutenant Colonel William Barret Travis, who was only 26 years of age, drew that line in the sand and everyone came across the line because they knew what that meant to include James Bowie, who was restrained to his band because of the [inaudible 10:34] he had, he was carried over that line in his bed, and that’s where he died, 186 years ago, still fighting from his bed. So, every one of us still has to continue to fight for liberty here in the state of Texas because we’re still under an invasion, except this time is the illegal immigration that is coming across our border.

The Immortal 32


You tell the story, I think, of Gonzalez better than anybody. And I’m assuming a lot of those descendants that will be there tonight, there’s probably some from the immortal 32 that literally fought their way into the Alamo knowing the end was likely going to be death. What about those folks, I mean, that really answered the call? I guess the only ones that answered Travis’s call as far as we know?


Yeah. The same that we have in the military, that warriors always move to the sound of the guns, that’s exactly what happened. And really, when you think about it, Rick, that call for liberty, that has always been the history here in the United States of America being the call that went out on April the 19th of 1775 elections in green and Concord, or the call that went out here in the state of Texas of the Alamo, and then of course, in San Sinton were in 18 minutes they secured the liberty of the Lone Star State.


Oh, man, I’m getting chills just thinking about this, Colonel. But I mean, the timing right now for your message tonight. It just ties into the call right now in our country for people to step up and get engaged. And I am so excited that we’re going to be teaming up with you, that you’re going to be a part of Patriot Academy and helping to train and equip and inspire a new generation of patriots, not just young, people from our generation as well. There’s just such a need for this.

And even what you’re doing tonight in terms of the remembrance, right, the Bible tells us remember the former days over and over and over again, and that seems to be where we became weak. As a nation, we stopped teaching civics, and remembering our history and remembering our principles. You know, that’s why I love you because you understand that and you articulate it better than anybody in the country. So I’m so excited about you teaming up with us at Patriot Academy and being a part of this. I just think tonight’s a great reminder of remembering the former days, as Reagan said, “If we forget what we did, we won’t know who we are.”

The Goal of the Progressive Social Left


Now, that’s exactly right. And that’s why we have to stand up and fight, Rick, because the goal of the progressive socialist left is not to just revise history, is to destroy our history. So if we don’t know from whence we came, we don’t know where we are and we certainly won’t know where we’re going.

So you think about last year, there are three young man from Texas who wrote a book, “Forget The Alamo: The Rise and Fall of an American Myth”. And you look at what is going on nationally how this 1619 project has come about, so that the independence of the United States of America was not established on July 4th, 1776. They believe that it was established based upon slavery.

So it is a call to us, because if we’re not able to pass on these lessons, much the same as what Joshua said, choose for yourself today whom you shall serve in the gods of the Amorites or the gods across the river, but as for me and in my house, we will serve the Lord. When we stopped telling the stories like they did with the children of Israel, and the next thing you know, you turn over to the book of Judges, and they start falling down and worshiping the veils, and so we’ve got to continue to tell the stories of America, tell the stories of Texas.


That is exactly what happened to the children of Israel. That’s essentially what’s happened to us as Americans, we stopped teaching civics, stop telling the American story, and so it was easy for the kids to fall for the lies. I mean, when the Marxist infiltrated the education system and started teaching on the lies instead of the truth. And it’s not just the kids now, Allen, it’s people our age, I mean, they have fallen for this negative story of America.

They’ve only been taught the ugly instead of the good, the bad and the ugly so we can learn from all of it. And that’s why what you’re doing is so important; you bring the good, the bad, the ugly, and you say, hey, here’s the truth about our history. We’ve got problems in our history, but compared to the rest of the world, it’s an amazing story that should be preserved and instill in our young people, but we’ve just dropped the ball on that completely on purpose, I have no doubt.


We’re going to take a quick break, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, our special guest today, new part of the Patriot Academy team, and we’re so thankful for that. Anyway, we’re going to take a break, we’ll be back in a moment. You’re listening to WallBuilders Live.

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We’re back here on WallBuilders Live. Thanks for staying with us today. Our special guest is Lieutenant Colonel Allen West now joining the Patriot Academy team, going to be helping with our military veterans Patriot Academy and our constitution coach program and all the different things that we’re doing to raise up a new generation of patriots out there, but also to train all of those in every generation to understand their constitutional liberties and understand how to preserve them and pass them to the next generation.

Teach All of History

Colonel, right before the break we were talking about just the fact that we haven’t taught the American story, we’ve only taught the ugly part instead of the good, the bad, and the ugly so that that American story you can see when you compare it to all the other nations in the history of the world just how special this story is. But yet, we haven’t taught it well and therefore people aren’t willing to defend it. And they don’t realize how blessed they are to have this great history as an American nation and this incredible story that produced the most powerful, most free, most benevolent nation in the history of the world.


You’re absolutely right. And I will tell you, in my 22 years in the military, 30 different combat zones, and nothing beats the land of the All Night 711 in Waffle House. And we got to let people know that and understand that. And when I hear young people that want to put America down or when I just recently saw a gentleman by the name of Elie Mystal or whatever, said that the Constitution is trash, I mean, this guy said this on national television just last week, Friday.

And you know, this is a person that, how can you have a platform to say that about the longest running constitutional republic that the world has ever now? Is it perfect? No. But it says that United States of America was established to form a more perfect union. And that’s what we continue to seek and strive to be.


You know, the way you describe that just now it made me think of a lot of these professional athletes that became Uber wealthy from this free enterprise system in America: they get to play a game and make all this money because our system works so well here and yet they don’t appreciate it. They’re like spoiled brats, basically, in my mind, that’s why I’ve been boycotting all the sports.

Where the Spirit of the Lord is, There is Freedom

But I mean, that’s kind of symbolic of what’s happened. We became so wealthy, so powerful, so free, that we just forgot what the inputs are, what the principles are, that produced that kind of freedom. And that’s essentially what we do at Patriot Academy, is teach the formula, teach the truth about what produces a free society. How important it it for people that live under the United States Constitution, to know the United States Constitution and understand what’s in there?


Well, I tell people that when I go out, I have my United States Constitution. That’s really your American Express credit card that you shouldn’t leave home without it. And if you don’t understand that thing that binds us together as American people, our rule of law, then you really don’t know the essence of being an American. And so when you talk about that cycle, the Scottish political philosopher Alexander Fraser Tytler talked about that cycle.

And one important part about that cycle was the spiritual awakening for us. Because it says in 2 Corinthians, 3:17, now that the Lord is the Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there’s freedom. That’s why our Judeo-Christian faith heritage is so important to who we are in the United States of America. And I think we got to get back to understanding those Judeo-Christian biblical principles as well as understanding our constitutional principles.


I think people are hungry for that too, sir. I’ve been shocked at the number of people that have gone through our biblical citizenship course that say, I’ve never heard any of this stuff. I didn’t know this. You know, now I’m going to be an active citizen. I’m going to follow what the Bible says about how to be a good neighbor and a good citizen and in my country.

I got to witness firsthand you training some of our Constitution coaches. And I’ve always been a fan of yours, okay. So I got to tell you, I mean, I’m a little bit fanboy out here about the idea that you’re part of Patriot Academy now. But when I watched you answer questions at that constitution coach training, I was blown away.

For Such a Time as This

I mean, people can ask just about anything. And you were quoting chapter and verse from the Constitution and the Bible, both. And it was just a beautiful thing. And our coaches fell in love with you as well. And so I just think that was a great precursor to where we’re headed in 2022 and 2023 with the number of people, I think we’re going to be able to train.

I think God has prepared you for such a time as this. The whole nation needs you right now and needs this infusion of passion for these founding documents, of passion for being good citizens have, as you said, run into the fight. I mean, just like those men, you’re going to honor tonight, I think all over the country, people are ready for somebody to draw a line in the sand and say, here’s your job as a citizen, get engaged, get empowered.

So I couldn’t be more excited about where we’re headed, and what God’s going to do with you next. I’m excited you’re going to be at the Alamo tonight and I’m excited you’re going to be a part of Patriot Academy and helping to train not just the kids, not just the young people, but all these constitution coaches around the country. We’re going to have a great time this year, brother.


I look forward to it. It’s not just this year, it’s all the years that go forward. And I am looking forward to the opening of that Constitutional Prep Academy because that’s how we make a difference for the future and legacy of the United States of America and Texas.


Amen. Well, have a great time at the Alamo and we will look forward to having you back on WallBuilders Live soon.


Thanks so much, Rick. God bless.

Amazing Programs


Special thanks to Lieutenant Colonel Allen West for joining us on the program. Even as he was headed down to San Antonio, again, that interview recorded just a couple of days ago while Colonel West was on his way to that very special event at the Alamo, I just think that’s perfect timing to announce the partnership with Alan West and him coming on board with us at Patriot Academy as our national spokesman. And nobody better to add to our team and to express the message of constitutional literacy and restoring civics and restoring our constitutional republic. We’ve worked with Colonel West for years, he’s spoken at our events, but many times in the past. And so it’s just a natural, natural fit.

As most people know, he just ran for governor here in Texas and ran an amazing campaign. So many people excited about his message and what he would have brought as governor of Texas. I would have loved to have seen him as governor of Texas. And that may still happen in the future. But for now, this chapter of his life, God is bringing him to our team, and we’re locking shields and going to train people all over the nation, not just here in Texas, but all over the nation, so to be a part of our Patriot Academy speaker’s bureau and helping us to get this campus built and start training people as he said, a Constitutional Prep Academy to have him training constitution coaches across the country and infusing his knowledge and passion and all of those things into our programs, it’s a remarkable, remarkable time for Patriot Academy.

And I’ll tell you something else. I know we have a lot of military veterans that listen to the program and many of you have been to our military veterans leadership Congress at the Texas State Capitol, we’re going to be doing our fourth one this year in 2022. It’ll be the first week of August. What an amazing, amazing opportunity for you to get to come and spend a couple of days with Colonel West and other great leaders as well, by the way. So obviously, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West to get to learn from him in that environment when he served in Congress, and now you’re going to be as a military veteran, if you come on this program, a state senator for the week, and get trained by him, also by retired Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Macias, this is just going to be a phenomenal week. You’ll meet a lot of other incredible leaders as well.

Opportunities for the Veterans

But it’s a great opportunity for military veterans to see inside the belly of the beast, to serve in the legislature for a week. Almost every single one of them that have come on that program have said to me now I understand what I was fighting for. I truly understand how a constitutional republic works and why what I was fighting for was so important.

So if you’re a military veteran out there, and you’re listening to this program, and you would like to participate in that I’m telling you, it is a fantastic, amazing week. Not only will you get to serve as a legislator for the week, and really see how that system works, but the leadership skills, the speaking skills, all the training that takes place, it’ll prepare you for whatever’s next in your life as well, just as Cornel West is now moving into this new chapter, whatever God’s got for you to continue to serve our nation.

Maybe he’s calling on you to run for the school board or the city council or state legislature, whatever it might be, this military veterans program that we do at Patriot Academy will be a phenomenal, phenomenal week for you and prepare you for that next chapter. So I hope you’ll consider coming to that. You can learn more at patriotacademy.com. You can apply there. We’d love to have you as a part of that.

Same goes for all the young people out there, by the way; if you’re 16 to 25 and you’d like to go through a Patriot Academy Leadership Congress, then check out patriotacademy.com. We’ve got them happening all summer long. Deadlines are already beginning to approach. If you’d like to attend Arizona, Idaho, Florida, Delaware, Colorado, Indiana and of course, the big one in Texas the first week of August, then you need to get on the website today, patriotacademy.com.

And as you’re listening out there, listeners to WallBuilders Live, you’re probably already thinking of young people that you know would benefit from that and that you would like to see go through that program. So you need get to that website patriotacademy.com and send it to them as well.

Why Remember The Alamo? – With LTC Allen West

And then last couple things I’ll say about Patriot Academy, since today’s been all about that and Allen West joining our team is that our constitution coach program is something anyone can do of any age. If you’ve got a desire to help save America, if you’ve got a desire to save liberty, preserve and pass the torch of freedom to the next generation, then you need to be a constitution coach. So get signed up at Patriot Academy today as a constitution coach, it’s completely free. We will train you on how to host those classes. By the way you can come the first week of August as well because we’ll be having our Constitution coach conference that week.

And if your constitution coach, you get to come you get to testify and committee as the students are over on the House side and military veterans or on the Senate side, you get to be a part of all of that. So get signed up as a Constitution coach today and be a part of that. And then also our constitutional defense programs, we’ve got one coming. May 22nd is our next constitutional defense course. If you’d like to learn really, really good, learn from the best trainers on the planet, on handgun defense, but also constitutional literacy, that you need to come to that program on May 22nd. All of that information, all these different programs available at patriotacademy.com.

Last thing, our speaker’s bureau, if you’d like to book Allen West to come in to speak to your church or your group, or myself, Rick Green or David Barton, Tim Barton, Kirk Cameron, Brad Stein, Mark Meckler, I mean, we’ve got all kinds of programs coming up. In fact, I should mention this, May 5th will be at the monument to the national monument of forefathers in Massachusetts on the National Day of Prayer. All the information available at patriotacademy.com. Thanks so much for listening today, folks. You’ve been listening to WallBuilders Live.